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Old     (kayutalakemonster)      Join Date: Jul 2007       08-27-2008, 12:55 PM Reply   
Hello,
I have to write a semester long paper on an environmental topic of my choice. I was thinking about the effects of boats using ballast for recreation's effects on freshwater lakes. However this topic may be hard to find peer reviewed academic articles. If anyone knows any papers or studies on shoreline erosion or anything else related to recreational water sports please let me know.
Old     (onthewatermo)      Join Date: Jan 2008       08-27-2008, 1:24 PM Reply   
If you type "boat wake and erosion" into google, not only will it tell you the "and" is unnecessary, but it will also yield a lot:
http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=boat+wake+and+eros ion&btnG=Google+Search
Old     (bmartin)      Join Date: Jan 2007       08-27-2008, 2:50 PM Reply   
You might want to broaden your topic to cover the impacts of recreational boats on erosion and not limit it to the effect of ballast in boats, although you could cover the ballast as a section of the paper.
Old     (wakebordr11)      Join Date: May 2001       08-27-2008, 5:48 PM Reply   
how about this adrian... stop being a f'en p*ssy writing papers about nonsense! Do it on noise polution so we can get that guy outlawed from our lake for good, or make a really strong case against tubers in your ski cove... or jet skiers... or how global warming is totally bogus, don't write a thesis about the downfalls of wakeboarding! How about the trucking industry/pollution that goes along with it/costs/depleating non-renewable resources/volume of traffic/roads that need to be built and maintained/traffic patterns... make a case for rail infrastructure and why it needs to come back
Old     (eargasm)      Join Date: May 2007       08-27-2008, 6:04 PM Reply   
Tell us how you really feel Delta...j/k. Couldnt agree with you more. Tons of other topics to write about.
Old     (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       08-27-2008, 7:56 PM Reply   
Quagga Mussels being moved from one lake to another via the ballast...
Old     (wesley_is_wake)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-27-2008, 8:32 PM Reply   
Couple of questions for Dave real quick. I don't own ballast tanks, nor have i ever used them, but don't you empty the water back into the lake you got it from? And secondly, I'm not sure if Quagga mussels are small enough to get in a ballast tank in the first place.

I really like that third idea. broadening your topic is the first thing you should think about.
Old    thebiggmann            08-27-2008, 9:25 PM Reply   
Wes, the water is emptied back into the lake, but that isn't what the problem is that he is addressing I don't think. He is talking about the effects that the larger wake from the ballast has on shoreline erosion as opposed to a normal wake or "no wake" situations. Many lakes, especially up here in the Wisconsin, have very strict "no wake" rules in place for certain areas of the lake because the erosion is so bad. Also, just because a mature mussel may not fit through an intake for a ballast, that doesn't mean that an immature one wouldn't.
Old     (westsidarider)      Join Date: Feb 2003       08-27-2008, 9:30 PM Reply   
why would you be on "wake" world asking for info about how to write an essay to give negative info about wakeboarding... go to "ski" world. i hope nobody helps this guy
Old     (dansmith)      Join Date: Aug 2006       08-28-2008, 8:34 AM Reply   
Wes must own a Tige...
Old     (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       08-28-2008, 8:41 AM Reply   
Wes, the mussels are definitely small enough at the start of life and will live in water that is residing in the ballast tank.

Dan, everyone knows that Tige's don't need ballasts.. I don't need it j/k
Old     (jc57)      Join Date: Jul 2008       08-28-2008, 8:54 AM Reply   
Hey Adrian, I think your essay would be best served with visual aids. Preferably if you purchase some of my "Lead Wake" bags (see attached). I not sure, but I really don't think that the thousand pounds (or in some or our cases, few thousand pounds) really makes that much difference in the overall displacement of the lake's water level. Especially enough to cause erosion. In fact, I think that most of our lakes (at least in California) could really use some elevation. Take it for what it's worth, just a suggestion. Thanks (don't forget the lead wake bags). Upload
Old     (headhunter)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-28-2008, 8:56 AM Reply   
Tige delivers their boats with mussels already enclosed in ballast tanks!!
Old     (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       08-28-2008, 9:05 AM Reply   
Article on SacBee.com

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Officials warn boaters of mussel threat
By Niesha Lofing - nlofing@sacbee.com
Published 7:46 am PDT Thursday, August 28, 2008

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Planning a boating outing this holiday weekend? State officials are asking that you don't move a mussel.

Boaters are asked to clean, drain and dry their boats before heading to waterways and lakes over Labor Day weekend in an attempt to prevent the spread of harmful Quagga and Zebra mussels.

State border inspectors also will be checking for the invasive mussels on watercraft entering the state, according to the California Farm Bureau Federation.

Quagga mussels were first found in the Colorado River system in January 2007 and later were found in San Diego and Riverside counties. Zebra mussels were found in a San Benito County reservoir in January 2008, states a Department of Fish and Game news release.

The destructive mussels can attach to and damage boat trailers, cooling systems, boat hulls and steering equipment and can be transported and spread to other bodies of water. Water in boat engines and other parts of the craft also can carry mussel larvae - called veligers - which can spread into waterways and lakes, the release states.

State law makes it illegal to possess or transport either of the mollusks and gives Fish and Game, state Department of Food and Agriculture and state parks officials authority to search and quarantine boats with suspected or confirmed mussel contamination.

The mussels can severely damage boats by ruining engines, increasing drag, jamming steering equipment and damaging hulls.

Boaters are asked to inspect all exposed boat surfaces, wash boat hulls thoroughly, remove plants from boat and trailer, drain all water, dry livewells and bait buckets and throw bait fish in the trash. All watercraft should be dried for at least five days between launches in different fresh bodies of water, the release states.

State officials also suggest that boaters plan for possible launch restrictions and inspections and should contact officials at their waterway or lake destination before leaving home.

Potentially contaminated watercraft could be turned away, the release states.

Quagga mussels arrived in the U.S. from Ukraine in 1989. The mussel, typically the size of a fingernail but able to grow to about two inches long, can colonize on hard and soft surfaces in freshwater from the surface to depths of more than 400 feet, according to Department of Fish and Game statistics.

Zebra mussels arrived in the U.S. from Europe one year earlier. The mussels are the same size as Quagga mussels and have the same growth potential, but can inhabit fresh water at depths from four to 180 feet and prefer hard surfaces.

Boaters or other people involved in lake or water activity who want more information about the invasive mussels may call (866) 440-9530.

For more information on the mussels or prevention efforts, go to www.dfg.ca.gov/invasive/quaggamussel.
Old     (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       08-28-2008, 9:06 AM Reply   
Headhunter, might want to retract that statement. slander $.02
Old     (headhunter)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-28-2008, 9:09 AM Reply   
Tige delivers their boats with muscles already enclosed in the ballast tanks! Just a spelling error!
Old     (ai_rider)      Join Date: Apr 2006       08-28-2008, 10:43 AM Reply   
Why are several of you just assuming that his paper will shed a negative light on wakeboarding(assuming he is not trying to make it negative)? I didnt read it that way at all. I cannot even remember how many times I have seen topics pop up with research demonstrating that boats wakes, even wakeboats loaded down do not have near the negative impact as nature, i.e. storms, wind, rain...etc. Give him a break. Sure there are other topics, but this has his interest, so why not help him, if you have the expertise or resources available, that do not cast a shadow over wakeboarding or recreation using vessels on the water. Perhaps with the proper research, he may conclude that boats are not the environmental disaster that many claim they are. Just a thought.
Old     (kayutalakemonster)      Join Date: Jul 2007       08-28-2008, 3:43 PM Reply   
yo jason your a herb s my d homo, just trying to get some suggestions. I am clearly not against putting ballast in boats it would be quite hipocritical of me. Thanks to everyone else for comments i think i am going to broaden the subject to the transfer for invasive species.
Old     (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       08-28-2008, 4:02 PM Reply   
Much better but believe what hh99 said. he is trying to be funny and slandering companies. Setting himself up for a law suit IMO.
Old     (redsupralaunch)      Join Date: Aug 2002       08-28-2008, 4:21 PM Reply   
Adrain

Here is just one reason why wakeboarders should support USA Wakeboard and USA Waterski.

http://www.usawaterski.org/pages/waterways.htm
Old     (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       08-28-2008, 4:43 PM Reply   
Ops, I meant to say don't believe what hh99 said.
Old     (monkey)      Join Date: Oct 2002       08-28-2008, 5:12 PM Reply   
I vote you turn it around and write your paper on the environmental impact of college campuses, making the argument that lecture halls and classrooms are not worth the environmental impact they create unless they're used to teach you the practical skills you'll need in your future career.

(Message edited by Monkey on August 28, 2008)
Old     (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       08-28-2008, 9:17 PM Reply   
And college is too expensive. Great idea Tim...
Old     (wakebordr11)      Join Date: May 2001       08-29-2008, 5:03 PM Reply   
transfer of invasive species sounds good...

Shawn we're buds, I was just givin him some sh*t.

BTW dron... you were right, ollie backside is easy... gonna get those back 1s soon kid! Come home and ride, Sals boat was epic last night with the 440s and one of my 250s(200 or so) up front... ridin dirty son!

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