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Old     (summerryder)      Join Date: Apr 2004       05-20-2006, 9:06 PM Reply   
I just got a call from Phillip Soven who asked me to post the following information on wakeworld:

Phillip has broken his wrist attempting a raley to blind on his home lake. The handle went up his arm and was ripped out when he fell.
Apparently it is a clean break and it will need several weeks to mend.

Defending his title at The Masters is out, along with the Liquid Force trip to Lake Powell. He is hopeful to ride by the time the second Pro Tour stop hits Minnesota, and will at least leave the dock in order to get the points towards the Tour race.

Anyway, he says he reads wakeworld but doesn't post much. He figured this would be the best way to tell people all at once.

Outside of that, Phillip and Murray had an incredible head-to-head heat at the first Pro Tour stop, and I hope both he and Murray can get back to form and get back on the water as soon as possible.
Old     (buzz_grande)      Join Date: Mar 2004       05-20-2006, 9:23 PM Reply   
Man that sucks. Murray and Phillip are my 2 favorite riders.

Phillip,

Hope you heal up fast and get back out there soon!
Old     (kingskrew)      Join Date: May 2004       05-20-2006, 9:31 PM Reply   
Bummer. Get well soon Phillip!

-Steve
Old     (aden_g)      Join Date: Mar 2006       05-20-2006, 11:54 PM Reply   
Ouch man... Sean O'Brien is recovering from putting his arm through the handle also.

Good luck and fast heals to all.
Old     (boarditup)      Join Date: Jan 2004       05-21-2006, 4:25 AM Reply   
I am developing a Safety Release for preventing damage from these kind of falls. It will be like a Trick Release for Trick Skiing, but will mount on the tower. Should have working prototype within 2 weeks. The first one will be built for my MC X-9.

The observer will have a tag line to pull to release the rope if the rider falls - hopefully before the rider hits the water.

If you have comments or ideas - rider@boarditup.com
Karl DeLooff
(616) 530-0442
Old     (hoosairboy)      Join Date: Aug 2005       05-21-2006, 4:47 AM Reply   
Safety release is not a bad idea but probably wouldn't have helped Philip. We use them for show ski and the application is solid. It would be good to have in case a rider ever got tied up in one after he crashed to keep him from being dragged. I have seen a few riders put their arms through and even their chin but they have never been caught up in one. By the time it is released the damage for a wakeboarder is done.

Not saying it is a bad idea just that it won't prevent most of the injuries in wakeboarding that may occur from getting arm stuck through handle.

How can you be healed in time for MN? Impressive. How is brother Rob doing?
Old     (newmy79)      Join Date: Jun 2005       05-21-2006, 5:10 AM Reply   
That really sucks.. Sorry to hear about your injury Phillip, heal up soon! Too many injuries this year it seems, Pro and regular WW riders..
Old     (phantom5815)      Join Date: Jul 2002       05-21-2006, 5:23 AM Reply   
It's not turning out to be a good start for him. Hopefully he'll make a strong showing towards the end of the year.
I was wonder how Robert is coming along. Any updates on his progress?
Old    krasher31            05-21-2006, 6:30 AM Reply   
I put my head through a handle attempting a raley. Luckily i was a new rider and was using an old slalom line which broke. I surely would haave been dead if using a wake line.

So i think your release is a GREAT idea.

I wish my Prob with knee was as simple as a wrist break, God luck.
Old     (phillip_soven)      Join Date: May 2006       05-21-2006, 7:43 AM Reply   
Hey everyone I do not usually post things on here but i thought i would clarify what happened. I was trying a blind judge and landed wrapped. When I went to grab the handle with my back hand which was actually the leading hand since I was landing switch, the rope got slack from to much speed and the rope part of the handle actually wrapped around my left wrist. The initial tug just pulled me off my feet to my back but the second tug is the one that did it and dragged me for a short time. Once the rope tugged the second time the damage was done. I will be going into the orthopedic surgeon on Monday to find out exactly how long I will be out. The x-rays showed I have a chip fracture of the ulner bone and possibly a chip fracture of the scaphoid bone. If that is true it could be as long as 10-12 weeks. I am unsure as of now, I will update on Monday when I find out.
Old     (fullonsalesgrp)      Join Date: Jan 2004       05-21-2006, 7:46 AM Reply   
Good luck kid you have been ripping as of late, heal quickly.
Old    krasher31            05-21-2006, 8:19 AM Reply   
Wow, thanks for the clarification. That does not sound simple and not fun.

That release may have worked if you had a good spotter.

Good luck
Old     (aden_g)      Join Date: Mar 2006       05-21-2006, 9:29 AM Reply   
Rusty rode Nationals with a broken thumb. No big deal.

lol, kidding. Get better man.
Old     (bill)      Join Date: Feb 2001       05-21-2006, 11:55 AM Reply   
Yea Randy harris rode with a full arm cast a few years back and was tearing it up..thats cool and crazy at the same time...
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       05-21-2006, 6:18 PM Reply   
Sorry to hear that Phillip. Heal up quick.

I just recovered from a wrist break. ACE makes an awesome brace that I was able to ride with after about the first two weeks.

Thanks for posting.
Old     (robert_t)      Join Date: Feb 2005       05-21-2006, 6:24 PM Reply   
Sorry to hear about this. Good luck with a speedy recovery.
Old     (boarditup)      Join Date: Jan 2004       05-21-2006, 7:11 PM Reply   
Phillip - your are on our thoughts and prayers. Heal quickly.
Old     (malibuboarder75)      Join Date: Jan 2004       05-21-2006, 7:29 PM Reply   
How are you typing with a broken wrist? That is amazing in itself.
Old     (pittsy)      Join Date: Apr 2004       05-21-2006, 7:31 PM Reply   
leo..you can type with 1 hand!
Old     (kylielogan)      Join Date: Apr 2006       05-21-2006, 7:31 PM Reply   
Hope you have a speedy recovery!
Old     (lfxstar)      Join Date: Jul 2001       05-21-2006, 7:33 PM Reply   
Yeah heel quickly, my fantasy team is going to get crushed without you, just kidding, well not really, but you know what i mean, get better
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       05-21-2006, 9:03 PM Reply   
Leo, do your wrists move when you type?
Old     (malibuboarder75)      Join Date: Jan 2004       05-21-2006, 11:15 PM Reply   
Not much, but I am sure there would be some discomfort. I was just wondering since he is a new user as of today. That seems like a long post for just one hand. Oh well, maybe I am over evaluating everything
Old     (criswb)      Join Date: Oct 2005       05-22-2006, 9:42 AM Reply   
Mmm... maybe he dictated it for someone to type??? I dunno!

Get better Phillip! How is your brother doing?
Old     (whit)      Join Date: Feb 2001       05-22-2006, 9:59 AM Reply   
A redesigned handle that will not allow a person to stick there arm through the hole is what is needed.
Old     (wakeriderixi)      Join Date: Jan 2004       05-22-2006, 10:15 AM Reply   
his arm didn't go through the hole... the line wrapped around his wrist.
Old     (antbug)      Join Date: Jul 2004       05-22-2006, 10:22 AM Reply   
CWB made one that looked like a "?" but I think people were more worried about hooking them self with the thing.

Phillip ~ Get well soon! The tour will not be the same without you.
Old     (wakeriderixi)      Join Date: Jan 2004       05-22-2006, 11:58 AM Reply   
Isn't it Hyperlite or Accurate that made the question mark shaped one?!! Ruck was riding with is.
Old     (antbug)      Join Date: Jul 2004       05-22-2006, 1:29 PM Reply   
Paul ~ I think you're correct. I remember seeing one and thought it was CWB. After I posted I was thinking "I hope I'm right on that one" hahahaha
Old     (electricsnow)      Join Date: May 2002       05-22-2006, 7:49 PM Reply   
You can totally type with one hand. A number of years ago I broke my arm (full arm cast, from hand to upper arm) and I had to type all of my class assignments up. It sucks, but it can be done!

Good luck with the recovery!
Old     (twakess)      Join Date: Mar 2002       05-22-2006, 8:51 PM Reply   
hope you heal up soon. I am always lost for words when I watch your video sections.
Old     (kristian)      Join Date: Nov 2002       05-23-2006, 2:34 AM Reply   
Yeah as said, the question mark handle shape is flawed, it could get cought somewhere much worse, like around your knee. Imagine that, then you'll be screwed.

Get well soon froggy.
Old     (wakeguru)      Join Date: Feb 2003       05-23-2006, 8:57 AM Reply   
Man, that sucks....probably all the rollers on that lake he rides on got him all screwed up.
Get well soon, Phil.
Old     (sloshake)      Join Date: Mar 2003       05-23-2006, 10:21 AM Reply   
Phil's Osmosis's are going to be frickin awesome!
Old     (deneng)      Join Date: Feb 2005       05-23-2006, 10:34 AM Reply   
Play it for all it's worth dude. Time too catch up on the girls!!
Old     (wellsrts)      Join Date: Feb 2006       05-23-2006, 1:54 PM Reply   
I HEARD HE BROKE IT HITTING THE SNOOZE BUTTON ON HIS ALARM CLOCK TO HARD
Old     (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       05-23-2006, 2:01 PM Reply   
massive, it only took you 3 days to come up with that?

get well soon phillip.
Old     (electricsnow)      Join Date: May 2002       05-23-2006, 2:01 PM Reply   
Massive, I'm pretty sure your novelty jokes wore out a month ago. Get over it already.
Old     (innov8)      Join Date: May 2005       05-23-2006, 2:04 PM Reply   
Thats a low blow!
Old     (phillip_soven)      Join Date: May 2006       05-24-2006, 10:04 PM Reply   
Whats up everyone. Just thought I would give an update GOOD NEWS. I went to my orthopedic surgeon that i have been going to for a few years now because of my frequent tissue tears in my knee and fiber tears on my right knee and of course other injurys over the years. The radiologist at the hospital misread the x-ray and told me i would be out for up to 12 weeks. I had it re X-rayed and examined my the orthopedist. I have a crush injury where the rope tightened the 5 bones in my hand got crushed together and became really tender but not broken i may have a small chip but nothing big. I am able to ride pretty soon with it its just how much pain i can put up with it will heal the same. I will not be attending Masters still I am not in riding condition. I am still wearing a splint on my wrist but I am making good progress. I think i will hopefully be riding by the time the next tour stop comes around at almost but not quite full strength with somewhat minor pains. By the way in Qatar I got food poisoning and got sick when i woke up i was sweating and twitching but you have my word i will not be having another one of those incidents. later
Old     (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       05-24-2006, 10:09 PM Reply   
phllip, that's good news man! i'm hoping you recover soon and fully!

as for qatar, you don't need to explain yourself. stuff happens and if people can't accept it, it's their problem, not yours.

see you in reno!
Old     (big_ed_x2)      Join Date: Jul 2004       05-24-2006, 10:12 PM Reply   
glad it wasn't as bad as your doc thought originally.



you rip dude....not that you already didn't know that.
Old    krasher31            05-25-2006, 5:13 AM Reply   
Ice!!!
Old    cwbabsolute1080            05-25-2006, 4:16 PM Reply   
Phillip.. hurry up and get better... my fantasty wakebaord team depnds on you!
Old     (cp3)      Join Date: Dec 2005       05-25-2006, 6:28 PM Reply   
Phillip, thats good news you will not be out for too long. Do you know if you are still going to Brostock?
Hey atleast you messed up on something big. Like the saying goes go big or go home.
Old     (criswb)      Join Date: Oct 2005       05-25-2006, 7:17 PM Reply   
Thats great news... I didnt want to take you out of my Fantasy team!! Mine also depends on you...
Old     (hoosairboy)      Join Date: Aug 2005       05-26-2006, 5:45 AM Reply   
"I went to my orthopedic surgeon that i have been going to for a few years now because of my frequent tissue tears in my knee and fiber tears on my right knee and of course other injurys over the years"

Your 15- Is this usual for wakeboarders?
Old     (ripr)      Join Date: Mar 2002       05-26-2006, 6:07 AM Reply   
When you go as big as him and have been doing so for a while, you better believe your knees are gonna take a beating!

Good luck Phillip! Get well....
Old     (kneeboarddad)      Join Date: Sep 2005       05-26-2006, 2:27 PM Reply   
Yep on the knees. Austin is having surgery #3 next Weds. He plans on competing in board and skate at PWT 2 in MN though.
Old     (wakeparent)      Join Date: Jan 2005       05-27-2006, 8:47 AM Reply   
David, what type of surgery is having that he
could be riding a week after?
Old     (kneeboarddad)      Join Date: Sep 2005       05-27-2006, 8:31 PM Reply   
Scope- He probably shouldn't that fast but he wants to stay on tour. You can't really damage it after surgery (Dr says) it just needs to recoup from the surgert itself.

Old     (yeah_bud)      Join Date: Jun 2003       05-28-2006, 4:50 AM Reply   
I know he will be back to 100% in no time. I had some pictures of Austin I kept sayin I was going to send you of him working on the double back roll at the Projects but hurricane Katrina flooded them out. He ended up having to get stiches that day on the cheek for his attempts but he was all over it.

That same day he and Lidberg had a little switch tootsie roll competition to see who could stick one first and Austin stuck his 3rd attempt. This was 2 years ago, I can't imagine how much he has progressed since then.
Old    awsnow            05-29-2006, 9:08 PM Reply   
That's great news Phillip. You are definitely one of my favorite riders to watch.
Old     (robert_t)      Join Date: Feb 2005       05-30-2006, 10:29 PM Reply   
Great new.
Old     (phillip_soven)      Join Date: May 2006       05-31-2006, 11:41 AM Reply   
Thanks everyone for the support. I will be trying to get riding again within the next few days. I will be riding in Minneapolis. I am not sure if i will be 100% but I have been riding for a long time this isn't the first time I have had to ride with an injury. About the knees that is very true over the years my right knee has been having multiple minor tears and pulls but nothing to major yet. It has been 11 years since i started wakeboarding and this is the first time I have gotten injured by the rope so i dont think it is anything to worry about changing handles and stuff what happens, happens not a big deal. Last thing someone said I was 15 actually I will be 17 on June 4th in a few days. Thanks again
Old     (bigpapaf1f)      Join Date: May 2005       05-31-2006, 11:47 AM Reply   
Good luck and Happy b-day!
Old     (mango)      Join Date: Mar 2004       05-31-2006, 12:44 PM Reply   
I hope you heal up soon and you come back stronger and continue to go big!
Old     (wakeriderixi)      Join Date: Jan 2004       05-31-2006, 1:11 PM Reply   
...long time no see Mr. Mango..
Old     (hoosairboy)      Join Date: Aug 2005       06-01-2006, 4:48 AM Reply   
17- Congrat. That means you have 2 more years of eligibility in JR Mens.
Old     (mango)      Join Date: Mar 2004       06-01-2006, 6:40 AM Reply   
heya paul...Da Mango is back with a vengeance!
Old     (cp3)      Join Date: Dec 2005       06-01-2006, 7:31 PM Reply   
So ya going to BroStock?

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