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Old    Andrew"Jet"Mitchell (andrewjet)      Join Date: Jan 2003       07-27-2007, 8:14 AM Reply   
Im trying to find new ways of weighting my closed bow Supra and where to put the wakeplate...up or down?. Whatcha got?? JetUpload

(Message edited by andrewjet on July 27, 2007)
Old    malibu_nut            07-27-2007, 8:23 AM Reply   
i don't have any pics, but i just put 3 80lb sand bags under the bow of my 93 echelon
Old    Kevin Hoye (wakebrdr38)      Join Date: Sep 2006       07-27-2007, 8:38 AM Reply   
i used 150 pounds of free weights all the way up in the nose. then when we really wanna good wake we strap a 150 pound launch pad to the bow...the wake gets rock hard.
Old    Mark Goerlich (goerlich)      Join Date: Jul 2006       07-27-2007, 9:40 AM Reply   
Check out this thread for more closed bow weighting...

http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/3183/465685.html

I've got a closed bow 1990 Sanger DX. I recently started adding weight and am now a happy man. The following is my setup, which I arrived at based on input from fatsac on WW (he has the same boat as me)

I ended up adding 100lbs under the rear seats and 150lbs way up in the nose (steel shot bags). Like you, I noticed that I needed to be careful crossing the wakes to pick up a rider. A friend took water over the bow when picking me up... to my horror, I watched as it ultimately washed up and over the windshield... no harm done but, at the time, I was worried about my camera gear that was in the boat.

I could definitely see a difference with the 250lbs added but, after seeing fatsac's photos, I decided to add Fly High Side Sacs as well. So that added 260lbs on each side of the engine. They take floor space, but are only 12" tall... fatsac used 440lb sacs on each side of the engine, but I was afraid it would be too easy to take on water... especially with some of the other drivers.

At this point I couldn't be happier. I just needed to show each person that drives it how to cross the wakes and to be aware of the bow.

Sorry for the rambling... to summarize:
100lbs steel (rear)
150lbs steel (nose)
520lbs fat sacs (260lbs each side of engine)

Normally I have 3 people total in the boat, which helps a bit more. (2 up front, 1 at the back in the middle of the seat to even things out).

Hope that helps in some way.

Mark

(Message edited by goerlich on July 27, 2007)
Old     (fatsac)      Join Date: Jun 2004       07-27-2007, 10:41 AM Reply   
I'll take some new pics of my DX next week. I'll probably get shot for saying this but last weekend, I found the wake has more pop while using only one 450 bag across the back. I use to go with one on each side of the bonnet but tried this to ease up more room. I was surprised.

Layout:
150 up front
100 under back seats
440 in front of back seat.
It's a different boat and while that isn't much weight, I found gas consumption is less, and the wake has a smooth transition with decent kick. Now, I could probably replace the seat with a fat seat and weigh the hell out of the bow to get the same wake, only bigger but the nose is already low enough.
Old    Andrew"Jet"Mitchell (andrewjet)      Join Date: Jan 2003       07-28-2007, 7:31 AM Reply   
bump..need more, come on!!
Old    Andrew"Jet"Mitchell (andrewjet)      Join Date: Jan 2003       08-08-2007, 12:06 PM Reply   
***UPDATE*** Normally I run 1600 lbs in my closed bow/Supra..but It hasent been working since I put in a new sundeck and added weight (80-90lbs)to the rear. Heres a new pic with only 400lbs in the rear and 150-200lbs in the nose. Its clean and back to basic now, BUT! How do I make it bigger?????? JetUpload
Old    Andrew"Jet"Mitchell (andrewjet)      Join Date: Jan 2003       08-08-2007, 12:16 PM Reply   
Opps..pic's to big. Here you go. Jet I'll re-send it.
Old    Nick in the TC (nick_in_ssp)      Join Date: Aug 2006       08-08-2007, 2:41 PM Reply   
This is how I do it. 750 fly high in back and the triangle 1000 in front, but I only fill it 3/4 of the way. Puts out a great wake and it is almost all hidden. I even have a 12" sub in a tip of the nose. The smaller boxes next to the motor are for sitting on and also give me a bit more storage. Upload
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Old    mikeyt (cwbrider16)      Join Date: May 2004       08-08-2007, 3:57 PM Reply   
Nick good looking boat
Old    Nickbot (nickbot)      Join Date: Feb 2007       08-09-2007, 6:15 AM Reply   
'93 Ski Nautique. 400# on either side of the motor, 250# behind the motor, driver & spotter, sometime another 250# half full in the bow (photos are without the bow weight). definitely not huge, but firm and fun. sorry, these are the best photos i have of the wake. also, basically no room to walk around in the boat. ok for me as it's kept on a lift on the lake and i only take it out for boarding.Upload
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Old    Andrew"Jet"Mitchell (andrewjet)      Join Date: Jan 2003       08-09-2007, 7:09 AM Reply   
Thats about as nice as I think we can get out of these little boats...very nice. Oh! And she looks good wet!! Jet
Old    Nickbot (nickbot)      Join Date: Feb 2007       08-09-2007, 7:38 AM Reply   
that me and the new mrs. nickbot riding doubles the day after the wedding.
Old    jeff taggart (cwb_fooguitarlz)      Join Date: Nov 2006       08-09-2007, 7:42 AM Reply   
if you put a 400 in the back instead of the 250, I bet the wake would be a bit peakier...worth a try
Old    Andrew"Jet"Mitchell (andrewjet)      Join Date: Jan 2003       08-09-2007, 3:25 PM Reply   
Thats Awsome...heres a pic of mine. Jet
Old    882001 (882001)      Join Date: Nov 2003       08-09-2007, 3:56 PM Reply   
http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/882001/?action=view&current=boat215.jpg
http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/882001/?action=view&current=boat214.jpg
Old    Alex Eddington (salomon16)      Join Date: Aug 2007       08-09-2007, 5:42 PM Reply   
Here's my prostar 190 with two 550lb side sacks, two subs and 3 amps up front and 4 people in the boat.Upload
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Old    Brian Kaufman (madison_boarder)      Join Date: Apr 2006       08-10-2007, 7:42 AM Reply   
Hey Nickbot,

Day after the wedding? I bet she had to widen her riding stance after that wedding night ;-)
Old    Andrew"Jet"Mitchell (andrewjet)      Join Date: Jan 2003       08-10-2007, 7:58 AM Reply   
Ok, their downsized now.150-200 lbs in the front and 400 lbs in the rear.JetUpload

(Message edited by andrewjet on August 10, 2007)
Old    Andrew"Jet"Mitchell (andrewjet)      Join Date: Jan 2003       08-10-2007, 8:17 AM Reply   
And heres the wife 5 months after our wedding. she broke a rib 2-months ago, and now she's back. Jet
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(Message edited by andrewjet on August 10, 2007)
Old    Nickbot (nickbot)      Join Date: Feb 2007       08-10-2007, 9:27 AM Reply   
brian,
had to drill more holes in the board
jeff,
sometimes i take out the back seat and put another 250 back there...or put 250 on either side of the motor and 400 behind. both make it peakier...just a little too peaky for me.
Old    Brian Kaufman (madison_boarder)      Join Date: Apr 2006       08-10-2007, 9:51 AM Reply   
Good man...

Here's my '81 Tique-- 440 on each side the engine.. about 180 in the nose, 250 in the rear and 3 in the boar:

My images won't fit, so just go to http://picasaweb.google.com/briankauf/MemorialDay2006

Thanks!
Old    Brian Kaufman (madison_boarder)      Join Date: Apr 2006       08-10-2007, 9:52 AM Reply   
Oh, and for reference, I'm 6'2"... the wake is BIG...that is at about 24 mph and 65-70 ft.
Old    Tim D. (tjdunklee)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-10-2007, 12:06 PM Reply   
Nick's 2001 above has a crazy nice wake! I'm sure you've all heard that before about a 80's 2001 but it still amazes me everytime I ride with him. I think the bow sack helps a ton to smooth out the wake and make it a little less "peaky".

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