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Old    Shawn (shawns_no_good)      Join Date: Jul 2007       07-13-2007, 9:36 AM Reply   
Curious to see what people would say is the best to buy if you were looking for nothing else but a good surf wave, not concerned about interior, wakeboard wake, other types of performances at all, just getting the best wave for surfing.
Old    Timmy! (timmyb)      Join Date: Apr 2007       07-13-2007, 10:06 AM Reply   
Isn't the Enzo supposed to be the best for surfing?
Old    mobster            07-13-2007, 10:18 AM Reply   
Old    -JonHarrison- (radrider)      Join Date: Nov 2006       07-13-2007, 11:07 AM Reply   
I see ropes.... would that b considered tow-in surfing (4 the entire ride)?
Old    Smed (smedman)      Join Date: Feb 2006       07-13-2007, 11:47 AM Reply   
If only they got about 20 or 200lb+ people on one side, that thing might throw a sick wake... :-)
Old    mobster            07-13-2007, 11:53 AM Reply   
You put the Grinch on the back run out 300' of line Grinch into the wave
Old    KG (iagainsti)      Join Date: Apr 2004       07-13-2007, 12:00 PM Reply   
The Nati 220 with just stock ballast has a fantastic starboard surfwake. This is just stock ballast and 4-5 peeps. I cant imagine adding more weight. The Enzo's also have great surfing wakes but require alot more ballast IMO
Old    Ron (ronnyboy27)      Join Date: Nov 2005       07-13-2007, 1:48 PM Reply   
what about the x-45?
Old    GoodTimes (bennygoodx)      Join Date: Aug 2006       07-13-2007, 4:29 PM Reply   
I think the X-45 is as good as any wake out there personally. I have tons of pics... ;-)
Old    rodney (azwakekid)      Join Date: Apr 2005       07-13-2007, 5:50 PM Reply   
ben from what im told your boat doesnt count. you got like 3k on your starboard side dont you?
Old    GoodTimes (bennygoodx)      Join Date: Aug 2006       07-14-2007, 11:12 AM Reply   
The Enzo has even more...

But yes, I run about 3-3500 lbs. on any given side.
Old    Shawn (shawns_no_good)      Join Date: Jul 2007       07-14-2007, 6:34 PM Reply   
How are Tige surfwakes? Comparable to any of the other boats, if it's weighted right it'll be good?
Old    Chris H. (04gravitygames)      Join Date: Jan 2006       07-14-2007, 8:52 PM Reply   
looking at getting a NAutique220. Is the surf wake good???
Old    Kevin (deltaboy)      Join Date: Jan 2007       07-15-2007, 8:15 AM Reply   
The Wakecraft surf wake with standard ballast and and either a 500# sack in lockers or about 4-5 in the boat and both wakes are surfable at the same time. Throw all the extra weight to one side (either one) and then its stupid huge. Anyone around Cent-Northern Cal is welcome to give it a shot, just let me know.
Old    wakecraft (wakecraft)      Join Date: Jan 2007       07-16-2007, 10:53 AM Reply   
Behind a WakecraftUpload
Old    KG (iagainsti)      Join Date: Apr 2004       07-16-2007, 12:37 PM Reply   
Chris H- I've been riding behind my friends all summer and it destroys my sacked out 06 VLX. This is just with its stock starboard ballast. Put more weight on top of 220 and it I think it would put out a better surf wake then an Enzo. The port side is not quite as nice as the starboard but still very nice.
Old    mobster            07-16-2007, 1:56 PM Reply   
Here are some Enzo waves one of the best we surfed behind so farUpload

Old    Jeff Walker (surfdad)      Join Date: Sep 2004       07-16-2007, 2:55 PM Reply   
Yeah...I'm with JL, I like that Enzo surf wake. I am quite fond of my older Tige - it's an '03 23V. I have yet to see a "great" surf wake on the new RZ/Ve hulls.


I also like the Avy surf wake.

Old    mobster            07-16-2007, 4:21 PM Reply   
The wake behind that new Tige RZV or what model we had on the news shoot was weak , soft and close to the boat we had to drive in circles to help it out we have never done that behind a Calabria or Enzo the Tige was a 24' pickle fork
Old    Larry Howard (longgonebon)      Join Date: Jan 2007       07-16-2007, 7:46 PM Reply   
MB Sports B-52 throws a killer wave stock.
Little more weight and a few people and it's great. It's easy too, since there are just two big ballasts on each side.. you just fill one.
Old    Timmy! (timmyb)      Join Date: Apr 2007       07-16-2007, 8:04 PM Reply   
The problem we are having with my RZ2 is that the sharp corner on the swim platform cuts into the water and leaves messes with the wave. We can get the height on it but the pocket is max 15'.
Old    Curtis Haynie (dentard)      Join Date: Apr 2006       07-22-2007, 10:03 PM Reply   
video/quicktimeUpload (133.6 k)
Old    Curtis Haynie (dentard)      Join Date: Apr 2006       07-23-2007, 11:24 AM Reply   
I think this will work:
Old    John Rodgers (jrodhyco)      Join Date: Jul 2006       07-23-2007, 3:51 PM Reply   
Malibu 24/7 is the best I have seen and I owned and ENZO for two years. I now have a Malibu LSV and the wake is great!
Old    GoodTimes (bennygoodx)      Join Date: Aug 2006       07-23-2007, 6:25 PM Reply   

where is that beast? You have yet to post any pics this season!!!!! Do share...

Old    Curtis Haynie (dentard)      Join Date: Apr 2006       07-23-2007, 11:15 PM Reply   
Ben- Didn't the youtube post work?
Old    Smed (smedman)      Join Date: Feb 2006       07-23-2007, 11:47 PM Reply   
Curtis -- What boat is that?!!!! Wow!!!

That wave looks to be close to chest high!!!
Old    GoodTimes (bennygoodx)      Join Date: Aug 2006       07-25-2007, 12:38 PM Reply   
Yes, Curtis it did. I just want to see more!!!!

I love that wave.
Old    Tim White (wetsounds1)      Join Date: Jan 2006       07-25-2007, 4:33 PM Reply   
Here are some shots my buddy e mailed me of a new Tige RZ4. I wasn't there but he said it had no ballast, 10 people in the boat. 3 in the bow, 6 on one side and driver.

My new RZ4 is being built. I will post some pics up as soon as I hit the water.


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Old    Ryan Lacefield (26lacefield)      Join Date: Aug 2006       07-28-2007, 1:26 PM Reply   
the point on the swim deck does get into the wave a little. just enough to annoy you. its not that bad. the surf wave on my 22ve was killer. one of the best i've surfed.


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