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Old    Brandon Kee (trickyboarder08)      Join Date: Jul 2005       07-06-2007, 9:24 AM Reply   
When going for the frontroll do you hit it opposite the tantrum by letting go with your hand and squaring to the wake, or do you hold on with both hands and thron it like that.
Old    flyhigh (lyle)      Join Date: May 2004       07-06-2007, 10:14 AM Reply   
I just recently started landing this trick, so Ill try to help you the best I can.. You deffinetly dont square up, or let go with one hand on the take off. You need to ride all the way to the top of the wake ( Im telling you, the longer you can wait the better) tucking the handle in and throwing your shoulders forward. then 3/4 way through the trick, let go with your back hand, and pull the handle to your lead hip. I started off trying to get the same trip as a tant, but it makes for some funky falls. hope that helps
Old    flyhigh (lyle)      Join Date: May 2004       07-06-2007, 10:16 AM Reply   
Brandon, I also found that I was able to get alot better trip whenever I would actually lean over the wake as I was comming in. Here is a video of the other day when I started landing them. http://www.blackwaterrydas.com/scarecrow.htm
Old    Skubz (bflat53212)      Join Date: Mar 2003       07-06-2007, 11:01 AM Reply   
"I would actually lean over the wake as I was comming in" I'm glad this worked for you lyle, but Brandon, I wouldn't suggest doing this. Breaking at the waist will cause you to lose line tension which is needed to rotate.

If you are having trouble with rotation, you could always let go with your backhand and throw your head down towards your back knee. By throwing your head down towards your back knee it will help keep tention on the line through the trick and rotate you much faster.

Good luck.
Old    Garret Schmidt (garret_s)      Join Date: Apr 2006       07-06-2007, 11:47 AM Reply   
lyle, thanks for the advice. This makes so much more sense now, I was trying it like a tanny. No wonder my falls hurt so bad.
Old    Ryan D (ogopogo)      Join Date: May 2005       07-06-2007, 12:27 PM Reply   
Don't break at the waist, and try to over rotate as you are upside down. This will help you to land on your toes making it easier to stomp.
Old    flyhigh (lyle)      Join Date: May 2004       07-06-2007, 1:07 PM Reply   
garrett no problem man, when I used to try it like that, the wake would somehow grab my board and sometimes pop on of my feet outta the binding. Thats a scarey feeling doing a half flip with one in and one out..

I agree, dont break at the waist, when I say lean over the wake, what I mean is stand tall with your weight a little more on your front lead foot...

(Message edited by lyle on July 06, 2007)
Old    eric (eas)      Join Date: Nov 2001       07-06-2007, 2:22 PM Reply   
"...more weight on your front foot..." --> excellent advise!

i also just figured out that if i really exaggerate my tuck (even though i think i'm tucking tight)....if i exaggerate it, the rotation is much easier.
Old    flyhigh (lyle)      Join Date: May 2004       07-06-2007, 3:52 PM Reply   
good call eric, deffinetly try to exagerate it
Old    Garret Schmidt (garret_s)      Join Date: Apr 2006       07-07-2007, 8:57 AM Reply   
and, just landed my first crow this morning, thanks to this thread.
Old    flyhigh (lyle)      Join Date: May 2004       07-08-2007, 2:20 PM Reply   
Congrads man.. way to go

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