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Old     (shredhead)      Join Date: Jun 2003       05-01-2007, 12:03 PM Reply   
Do you let your buds barrow your boat?
Old     (bchesley)      Join Date: Apr 2001       05-01-2007, 12:07 PM Reply   
NO NO NO. I trust them but still a big huge no. Dont have an really good reason either.
Old     (fullspeed)      Join Date: Oct 2005       05-01-2007, 12:11 PM Reply   
I would let them borrow my truck, car or watch my house while I was on vacation, but my boat is out of the question. I guess if it was an old beater of a boat that you didn't care for that much then sure.
Old     (rodltg2)      Join Date: Oct 2005       05-01-2007, 12:12 PM Reply   
bad idea, dont even give it a second thought. if you do that i guarentee you will no longer be friends.
Old     (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       05-01-2007, 12:15 PM Reply   
If they sink your boat, I think you would be extremely pissed off.... I know I would.... That would be my biggest fear....
Old     (acurtis_ttu)      Join Date: May 2004       05-01-2007, 12:23 PM Reply   
it's just a boat......yes I let good friends borrow my boat, only the one who own boats themselves. I live on a lake with my boat in the lift so I guess the circumstances are a little different. I haven't let anyone borrow my new boat ...yet...give me a couple of months.
Old     (fullspeed)      Join Date: Oct 2005       05-01-2007, 12:28 PM Reply   
My brother in law and I owned a boat together and he put all the scratches on our boat. Never washed or waxed it and never took his trash out of it. His wife would let their son pee on the carpet of the boat, because mainly she was a drunk and to lazy to put diapers on him. That was in front of me, who knows what happened when they took our boat by themselves. They blame the horrible smell on Clear Lake which I sure is true, but the kid piss must of been a factor.
Old     (raketball)      Join Date: Apr 2005       05-01-2007, 12:28 PM Reply   
Are you talking about friends bringing a wheelBARROW on the boat or a friend borrowing your boat?
Old     (rodltg2)      Join Date: Oct 2005       05-01-2007, 12:35 PM Reply   
almost as bad as letting your friends borrow your wife..
Old     (26lacefield)      Join Date: Aug 2006       05-01-2007, 12:36 PM Reply   
my dad had let a long time customer of ours barrow my boat and it came back with dock scuffs all over it. a riped seat and all the ballast drain pumps burnt up and all the ballast pump wiring had almost all the insulation burnt off of it. i was piZZed. i guess some people don't treat other boats how they treat theirs.
Old     (psudy)      Join Date: Dec 2003       05-01-2007, 12:40 PM Reply   
Its BORROW, not barrow.
Old     (helinut)      Join Date: Apr 2007       05-01-2007, 12:41 PM Reply   
Yeah, I had this same question in my mind when I was thinking about asking a friend of mine to borrow his LSV. Then I started looking at buying a boat of that caliber, and now have one on the way ( vRide ). I would now never ask to borrow his boat. There are just too many things that can go wrong on the water. I'd possibly let him borrow mine, but that would be the only person, since he has a experience with direct drives and he's a dentist to pay for it :-).

I too looked at going in on a boat with my brother in law. While I think he would do everything he could to take care of it, there are just too many variables when boating. Even if it wasn't his fault, I'd have issues with scratches and such on a $50K boat. So I just bought it myself and we'll go out together.

Old     (lrbs_xstar)      Join Date: Mar 2007       05-01-2007, 12:48 PM Reply   
no no and no
i would never let my friends borrow my boat
Old     (unclesam)      Join Date: Nov 2005       05-01-2007, 1:03 PM Reply   
depends if it is a friend that has bayliner experience or a friend that has personally been on your boat already many times and is fully aware of how everything functions. If the person says his parents have an outboard and he knows how to operate that fine, then I instantly say no. Anyone that doesnt know how to drive an inboard is bound to somehow screw it up. Also know that where ever they take the boat they know like the back of their and your hand.

So all in all I would say it takes a very special person/current boat owner to be allowed the privilege of borrowing the boat, plus I would expect the boat to come back with more gas then it left with and to be spotless. A case of beer in the cooler wouldn't hurt either.

(Message edited by unclesam on May 01, 2007)
Old     (05mobiuslsv)      Join Date: Apr 2006       05-01-2007, 1:06 PM Reply   
Hell no I don't care who it is.
Old     (jamieb)      Join Date: Mar 2007       05-01-2007, 1:09 PM Reply   
its funny, cause I wouldnt let my best friend anywhere near it. I don't even like letting him drive when I'm in the boat.

but I'm much more comfortable with some of my other buddies. Just because somebody is your friend doesnt make them responsible
Old     (denwbaseball)      Join Date: Apr 2007       05-01-2007, 1:14 PM Reply   
Never! And my boat's a POS!
Old     (jetskiprosx)      Join Date: Aug 2004       05-01-2007, 1:21 PM Reply   
I have two friends (and fellow boat owners) that I would let borrow my boat...other then them NO WAY!
Old     (kenteck)      Join Date: Jan 2005       05-01-2007, 1:29 PM Reply   
no no no and no
Old     (mujibur)      Join Date: May 2002       05-01-2007, 1:44 PM Reply   
Yes - with a 60,000 dollar cash deposit in USD $$ and a contract stating that i can deduct any damage from the deposit at my desertion.
Old     (pwningjr)      Join Date: Apr 2007       05-01-2007, 1:51 PM Reply   
"Never! And my boat's a POS!"
lol me too
Old     (mcwakerider)      Join Date: Dec 2006       05-01-2007, 1:58 PM Reply   
No!!! cuz if they are going... I'm going!!!
Old     (auto)      Join Date: Aug 2002       05-01-2007, 1:58 PM Reply   
I have borrowed boats, trucks, cars, guns, and have lent out the same. The only that I will not lend out is the chica.
Old    nwwakerider            05-01-2007, 2:21 PM Reply   
nope. i only let a few friends even drive my boat, so theres no way i would ever let a friend borrow my boat.
Old    K.B.C.            05-01-2007, 2:27 PM Reply   
hell no
Old     (05mobiuslsv)      Join Date: Apr 2006       05-01-2007, 2:28 PM Reply   
Would you let your wife or girlfriend take it out without you with a bunch of her friends?
Old     (deuce)      Join Date: Mar 2002       05-01-2007, 2:35 PM Reply   
My wife takes her girlfriends out on the boat.... Usually I meet up with them...later in the day. But I encourage it, even if I am not going.
Old     (entrustclothing)      Join Date: Jul 2005       05-01-2007, 2:51 PM Reply   
ive let my friend borrow my boat while his was in the shop but he has a boat and i trust him and know he has enough money to pay for any damage he does :-)

and i would let my wife take the boat out by herself if she would get better at driving the truck and trailer
Old     (hudd007)      Join Date: May 2006       05-01-2007, 3:02 PM Reply   
noone takes out my boat, my tahoe, or my motorcycle without me in/on it. As for my motorcycle, noone touches that period because I don't ride on the back.

crashing a car is one thing, most likely its fixable, crashing a boat is another, most likely it sinks.
Old     (attila916)      Join Date: Oct 2005       05-01-2007, 3:04 PM Reply   
I would not even let my wife borrow the boat!
Old     (big_ed_x2)      Join Date: Jul 2004       05-01-2007, 3:17 PM Reply   
By billy foulds (mcwakerider) on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 1:58 pm:


No!!! cuz if they are going... I'm going!!!

Old     (ponte_06_x2)      Join Date: Jan 2006       05-01-2007, 4:17 PM Reply   
ej. do you know what happens to women on a boat with no guys?
have you ever seen fly's on sh.t? well thats what it looks like.

(Message edited by ponte_06_x2 on May 01, 2007)
Old     (mikea)      Join Date: Mar 2005       05-01-2007, 4:29 PM Reply   
if I am at the lake (staying on a houseboat) I will let a "select few" take my boat. i also must say that these people let me use thier boats also.
as far backing up to my trailer and taking off with it, Heck NO!

(Message edited by mikea on May 01, 2007)
Old     (srh00z)      Join Date: Jun 2003       05-01-2007, 4:32 PM Reply   
My buddies have taken my boat out a few times, but I always made sure a member of my family went with them, of course, and I don't have a high dollar boat. They also have helped chip in on the boat for maintenance and other things over the years. Also, any time the boat needs repairs, they come over and help until the job is done. One of my buddies has even helped me with household projects, cutting grass at the river place, etc over the years and he is about as close to being a brother as a friend could be. That being said, it wouldn't have happened if it were a newer/pricier boat.
Old     (byrd)      Join Date: Dec 2005       05-01-2007, 5:59 PM Reply   
I would with a few, others no way in HELL!! The ones I would, would let me use theirs. Anything is fixable...
Old     (market_open)      Join Date: Apr 2007       05-01-2007, 6:15 PM Reply   
"Anything is fixable..." The boat yes, but if it needs to be fixed and the borrower is a little light in the pocket, the friendship might not be. That being said, I have both borrowed, and lent. I have also been a part of two successful boat partnerships.
Old     (wakereviews)      Join Date: Sep 2006       05-01-2007, 6:21 PM Reply   
i don't even let my wife take out the SAN, the Pontoon yes, but not my SAN.
Old     (supra24ssv)      Join Date: Mar 2006       05-01-2007, 6:25 PM Reply   
no way in he11
Old     (clubjoe)      Join Date: Sep 2005       05-01-2007, 7:58 PM Reply   
Only one person has my ok to use it on demand (and he lives out of town!) ........

Other than that, not so sure I could part with it.......Couldn't say "never", but I don't know that it would even come up.....
Old     (johnny_defacto)      Join Date: Sep 2006       05-01-2007, 7:59 PM Reply   
NO. Almost always.

YES. If that particular friend is or has been an wakeboard/inboard boat owner.
Old     (ridininmd)      Join Date: Jun 2006       05-01-2007, 8:05 PM Reply   
Nope, I don't even let my dad take my boat out without me.
Old     (detonate69)      Join Date: Apr 2001       05-01-2007, 8:15 PM Reply   
ummm No. nuff said
Old     (timmy)      Join Date: Jul 2001       05-01-2007, 8:23 PM Reply   
I let one friend use my boat for a while when his was getting fixed and I was out of town for a long time. No problems and he even changed the oil.
Old     (johnsvt)      Join Date: Dec 2006       05-01-2007, 8:24 PM Reply   
Easier to say No than it is to say hey can you fix this tear, scuff, motor, blown speaker, etc, etc...
Old     (mcwakerider)      Join Date: Dec 2006       05-01-2007, 10:25 PM Reply   

i totally agree... lol
Old     (mikeski)      Join Date: Aug 2003       05-01-2007, 11:16 PM Reply   
I would let the right friend in the right situation borrow the boat.

My wife and sister together, anytime.

Grant, anytime.

A few other's anytime, but few other's.

A have damaged a friends boat but I treated it exactly as if it was mine. Having financial means to solve the potential problems is very important.
Old     (stxr_racer)      Join Date: Jun 2006       05-02-2007, 2:15 AM Reply   
My FRIENDS would NEVER ask!
Old     (srock)      Join Date: Mar 2002       05-02-2007, 5:59 AM Reply   
I borrowed boats twice and boy was I cautious. Mine was out of commission and I had family to entertain.

There are very few people I would trust not because they would be disrespectful of my machine but its the accidental stuff and familiarity with the operation and waterway hazards.
Old    kidrik            05-02-2007, 9:16 AM Reply   
Bevan stole my thoughts exactly!!! And Billy summed up the rest............

They would never ask, and I'm always the one begging them to go out more!!

Gotta love summers off baby!!!
Old     (ironj32)      Join Date: Jan 2007       05-02-2007, 10:38 AM Reply   
Old     (wakeboardaddy)      Join Date: Sep 2006       05-09-2007, 6:31 AM Reply   
I would say no, but when my brother offered to let me take his wakesetter out with my teenager and his teenager, I cautiously said I would. Upon loading the boat, his son drove the boat on and my son hooked up the front and I pulled ahead, got out to pull the plug and the motor was still running. maybe for 10 seconds out of the water. I went down the next week and bought him a new one. with boating murphy's law prevails......."If something can go wrong, IT WILL."
Old     (ironj32)      Join Date: Jan 2007       05-09-2007, 6:42 AM Reply   
what exactly happened to the motor that you had to buy him a new one?
Old     (nickbot)      Join Date: Feb 2007       05-09-2007, 7:03 AM Reply   
the only person I would let borrow mine is my dad.
Old     (etakk7)      Join Date: Apr 2006       05-09-2007, 7:33 AM Reply   
You bought him a new Wakesetter, a new motor, or a new impeller?
Old     (05mobiuslsv)      Join Date: Apr 2006       05-09-2007, 7:48 AM Reply   
The motor would not blow after 10 seconds. So what did you buy him?
Old     (dizzyg)      Join Date: May 2005       05-09-2007, 8:00 AM Reply   
I have one, maybe two friends I'd let borrow the boat. Those are guys who have a boat, I know how they treat it, drive it and they know how things work. Otherwise, HELL NO
Old     (calcio)      Join Date: Aug 2006       05-09-2007, 9:38 AM Reply   
Simply put, NO!!!!
I let my cousin borrow my old boat(85 bu) a couple years ago. I thought he was responsible...Boat came back with some interior pcs broken. When I questioned him, he said he didn't know that would have happened. I had to repair it since he wouldn't take responsibility for it. Lesson Learned
Old     (jusstty)      Join Date: Dec 2006       05-09-2007, 3:03 PM Reply   
Not unless there insured by SURVIVAL.
Old     (macgiver)      Join Date: Jun 2006       05-09-2007, 5:24 PM Reply   
If you want to keep them as freinds never lend your boat to them. Invariably, if anything happens, its never their fault. Some one else did something to the boat. If something happens when you have it you pay for it. If something happens when they have it you still pay for it!
Old     (deltaboy)      Join Date: Jan 2007       05-09-2007, 6:41 PM Reply   
I would, but only if they gave me a $60k deposite first.
Old     (ryan27r)      Join Date: Oct 2006       05-09-2007, 8:43 PM Reply   
2 People could take the boat out with out me in it. One has the same boat I do and is very cautious and a good driver. The other has an inboard and is a good driver. The major things are conditions even if its windy out or a chance or rain the boat stays on the lift with out me in it.
Old     (rallyart)      Join Date: Nov 2006       05-09-2007, 9:15 PM Reply   
Sure, lend anything to a friend. Just be sure that if you don't get it back it won't wreck the friendship. Goes for money and lawnmowers too.
If it will risk your friendship why take that risk.
Old     (kevin_lsv23)      Join Date: Oct 2006       05-09-2007, 9:27 PM Reply   
This one yes.

This one NO!
Old     (wakeboardaddy)      Join Date: Sep 2006       05-09-2007, 9:27 PM Reply   
Sorry, clarification needed. His impeller was still working, I just bought him a spare.
Old     (evil0ne)      Join Date: Sep 2006       05-09-2007, 9:41 PM Reply   
deltaboy, why does the person need a $60K deposit? I thought the wakecraft's were going for $50K give or take a $4K commision .
Old     (deltaboy)      Join Date: Jan 2007       05-09-2007, 9:49 PM Reply   
Not anymore.
Old     (05mobiuslsv)      Join Date: Apr 2006       05-09-2007, 10:07 PM Reply   
Kevin (lsv 23) that boat is nasty looking, the good nasty

(Message edited by 05mobiuslsv on May 09, 2007)
Old     (deltaboy)      Join Date: Jan 2007       05-09-2007, 10:12 PM Reply   
Not sure if it any of you see it this way but Kevin's bu looks as if its black fading into the red....I know its not but that would be sweet if it was geled that way....


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