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Old    Jase (jorellz)      Join Date: Aug 2004       06-20-2006, 2:43 PM Reply   
So here is the dilemma, I have the Rubicon 450s ordered and will be here in a couple weeks. But I am wondering what I need to run them. I have went through all the past posts, and here is what I came up with:

PPI DCX 1000.4
4-CHANNEL DCX AMPLIFIER

Does this make sense? Can I get away with something smaller and cheaper? If so what difference will I see with something smaller?
Thanks!! Specs are below.

Power @ 4 Ohms: 125 Watts x 4
Power @ 2 Ohms: 250 Watts x 4
Mono Operation: 500 Watts x 2 @ 4 Ohms
Fully regulated design for guaranteed power delivery
Flexible TC-X crossover with configurable line out
High-voltage input capability with selectable 12dB attenuation
Mixed mono/stereo operation
2 ohm stereo stable
Q BASS™ Plus
THD+N: 0.08%
S/N Ratio: >100dB
Freq. Resp.: 10Hz-50kHz
Damping Factor: >300
X/O Slope: 2-Way, 30Hz-4kHz, 12dB/Octave
Fan: Yes
QBass™: QBASS Plus/Remote
Dimensions: 23-5/8"x10-1/2"x2-3/4"
Old    CAR (super_air)      Join Date: Jun 2005       06-20-2006, 2:49 PM Reply   
Spend the extra money now so you don't have to re do it in a few months cause you can't stand the way it sounds. If you paid good money for your speakers run it with something that will give you maximum usage from them, don't cut corners trying to save a buck.
Old    Adam Curtis (acurtis_ttu)      Join Date: May 2004       06-20-2006, 3:03 PM Reply   
the older PPI 4125 is supposed to be better if you cna find one. Also check out the arc audio stuff.
Old    Jase (jorellz)      Join Date: Aug 2004       06-20-2006, 3:13 PM Reply   
CAR - So is the amp above cheap or what would you recommend?

Adam - Is PPI a good name? Do they run cool? Any recommends on the Arc stuff?
Old    Jase (jorellz)      Join Date: Aug 2004       06-20-2006, 3:16 PM Reply   
And since I have you guys here...any recommends for the interior...all 6 1/4 or some 6/9 as well? I will dig through the archives as well on this!

Thanks Everyone!
Old    CAR (super_air)      Join Date: Jun 2005       06-20-2006, 3:20 PM Reply   
I would try to find the pcx ppi 4125 for the tower.You can find one for about 350 to 450 NIB.
Old    Clubmyke (clubmyke)      Join Date: Aug 2004       06-20-2006, 4:54 PM Reply   
would look really hard at quality amps that have a remote volume....

-arc 1500 xkk (1000 real watts at 2 ohms mono)
-zapco ref 1100 (1100 real watts at 2 ohm mono)..


the older ppi art series or water cooled series were very good but the new stuff
Old    Brett Wilson (fyrdawg29)      Join Date: Mar 2006       06-20-2006, 5:35 PM Reply   
I have all ARC Audio in my 05 VLX. I love it. Its crisp, clean, and loud. A bit pricey but worth it. Good luck!!!
Old    Randy (dudeman)      Join Date: Mar 2005       06-20-2006, 7:05 PM Reply   
Seems to me that you would want more power for investing in the 450's. I have the 350's running 2 channel, 340 RMS @ 4 ohms and they are unbelievable. I'm using a Hifonics amp. I'm new to the stereo game, but I've heard good reviews on Hifonics for the $$$ and their tech support is awesome.
Old    Buzz (buzz_grande)      Join Date: Mar 2004       06-20-2006, 7:47 PM Reply   
I am running my 450's with a Zapco Reference 750.2. I would not want to go with anything less. Listen to Clubmyke - he's the stereo geek (sorry Mike - can't think of a better term).
Old    Clubmyke (clubmyke)      Join Date: Aug 2004       06-20-2006, 8:04 PM Reply   
no offense taken (audiophile= terrible disease)

btw, running the towers with a mixed mono signal sounds sooooo much better than stereo not to mention about 3db to 6 db louder....

we tried this with mikes rubicons 450 and the zapco 750 (has a mixed mono switch - the output more than doubled....it will also sound better 80' out)

(Message edited by clubmyke on June 20, 2006)
Old    Jase (jorellz)      Join Date: Aug 2004       06-21-2006, 11:47 AM Reply   
Thanks guys! As always everyone is a great help!

Clubmyke - The Zapco 750.2 Ref was this the digital? I am not sure exactly what I am asking, other then the supplier here told me there is a digital version and the original. Any thoughts?

Thanks again
Jase
Old    Clubmyke (clubmyke)      Join Date: Aug 2004       06-21-2006, 2:20 PM Reply   
the new zap dig ref is a bit too much. the idea of using a dealer laptop to adjust the amp is a pain in the a$$.

why they did this I don't know. the only benefit is the ability to run 1~2 ohm loads that the older ref couldn't do.
Old    Clayton191 (clayton191)      Join Date: Apr 2006       06-21-2006, 2:34 PM Reply   
I keep hearing about Audio Arc and Zapco but I havent found any close-by dealers.

Is the Audio Arc / Zapco equipment just VERY high grade or am I totally out of the scene? I thought the big aftermarket players were JL, Kicker, and Rockford Fosgate!
Old    Clubmyke (clubmyke)      Join Date: Aug 2004       06-21-2006, 2:56 PM Reply   
JL is very, very good... awesome gear and great cusotmer service...

Zapco, JL, and ARC are pretty much it without stepping into the big buck areana such as TRU, Audison, Butler., BRAX, Sinfoni, Macintosh..

old school kicker and rf are very good...

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