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Old    bocephus            06-08-2006, 11:27 AM Reply   
I just unloaded some investments in Arizona and looking to buy some lakefront property in Texas. Looking for a good clean large lake with a newer house, 3 car+ garage a must, a good size lot, and somewhere close to a metro area. I was told to look at Lake Travis but read that there is officially no lakefront property since it's a army corps lake or something. Any other suggestions? I'm just going to use the house for vacations and what not. I need to buy something in the next 4 months.

Thanks,
Bocephus.
Old    Richard (nauty)      Join Date: Feb 2004       06-08-2006, 11:47 AM Reply   
Check out Northstar Pointe. It's anew development on Lake Bridgeport. The lake is just north of Ft. Worth. The development is on the north end of the lake where all of the coves are (great for wakeboarding). The lake is just far enough from the Dallas area to still be somewhat uncrowded.

If I had the resources I'd be all over it.

http://northstarpointe.com/
Old    Jeff Baker (innov8)      Join Date: May 2005       06-08-2006, 11:56 AM Reply   
Check out Lake Granbury as well. Great lake for wakeboarding, 30min outside of Fort Worth. What kind of money are you lookin to spend? Clean lakes are hard to come by in TEXAS, lake Granbury is more like a river then a hudge widebody lake, but its like 50 mile long and a lot of new and older develoments on the lake as well. It all depends on what you want to spend.
Old    bocephus            06-08-2006, 12:00 PM Reply   
I would prefer to spend around $300K. I don't really don't know the market yet and could go higher if need be, say around 5. I just need a good place to park some money so I don't get taxed out the wazzu on it.

(Message edited by bocephus on June 08, 2006)
Old    Nacho (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       06-08-2006, 12:18 PM Reply   
Hida-Away Lake is pretty good for riding. 90 miles east of Dallas. could easily find something in that range. the middle lake is one of 3. mostly barges with a few tubers thrown in. Saw a tige out there last weekend - not too many riders.
Old    Jeff Baker (innov8)      Join Date: May 2005       06-08-2006, 12:21 PM Reply   
Heres a couple on Lake Granbury.
http://lakehouse.com/search.php?cid=829&s_res=AND
Old    eric fox (fox)      Join Date: Jul 2002       06-08-2006, 12:22 PM Reply   
I think most poeple will say lake Austin is a better wakeboard lake. Travis gets busy with big boats and such I believe. I still consider relocating to the Austin area from time to time. The Austin area has a lot to offer in amenities, without being a "giant" city. Property is relatively affordable in the area. Property taxes seem to be pretty killer though. There's no state income tax, but since you're planning on using as vacation property that will be of little concern.
Old    C.I.E..... Evan (guido)      Join Date: Jul 2002       06-08-2006, 1:22 PM Reply   
Man, after looking at some of those places on Granbury I'm thinking of moving. I could sell my house and pay cash for one of those places. What's the deal, is there anything around there or what.

Looks pretty nice. I like the all brick one.
Old    matt (mcinvale)      Join Date: Apr 2006       06-08-2006, 1:34 PM Reply   
$300-500K for lakefront with 3 car garage!?!??! a man... i need to get outta san diego...
Old    Andrew Davis (c640947)      Join Date: Jan 2005       06-08-2006, 1:36 PM Reply   
Conroe would also fit the bill pretty nice. Its close to Houston and you can definitely get a nice place on the lake for that range. Boarding on on weekdays or mornings, but thats common everywhere. Lots of new developments on Lake Conroe too.

(Message edited by c640947 on June 08, 2006)
Old    Paul Bernier (wakeriderixi)      Join Date: Jan 2004       06-08-2006, 1:43 PM Reply   
Come on over to Florida
Old    Jeff Baker (innov8)      Join Date: May 2005       06-08-2006, 1:48 PM Reply   
Ya Evan Fort Worth is a 25 min drive from Granbury. Austin is about 3 to 4 hours away. The Lake is more like a river then a lake so its great for wakeboarding. Granbury is growing like crazy and all the big boys are already here (home depot, Lowes, Stapels ECT.) so property in the last three years has gone up like crazy. If you think this is cheap you should have bought when I did three years ago.
Old    Al O (alo)      Join Date: Nov 2002       06-08-2006, 1:52 PM Reply   
lake austin is pretty cool, but i dont think you could find anything for that price waterfront. it is about a 5 to 10 min drive downtown, depends on where you are located. i have never seen a water front property for under 500.. good luck.
Old    BG WCC (bigpapaf1f)      Join Date: May 2005       06-08-2006, 2:05 PM Reply   
Evan, Thats whats up!!! Lets do it!! We could be neighbor!!! I could buy a house and a X-1!! I'll do the same work I do out here and sell to Hank Hill at Stricklin Propane!!
Old    Rich (rich_g)      Join Date: May 2003       06-08-2006, 2:07 PM Reply   
Cedar Creek Lake is a big lake about 45 min SE of Dallas. There are lots of gated communities with a mix of affluent retirees and weekenders. The towns around the lake are pretty rural; kind of tacky, thus the gated communities. IOW, there is a big dicotomy between the lake and non-lake communities.

Houses are on the water with private docks; you have to make sure you have deep water, because it will fluctuate some (its Texas). Probably more for your $ than the Austin / Hill Country area. If it makes it on your list, send me an email, one of my buddies is the top real estate guy over there.
Old    Jeff Baker (innov8)      Join Date: May 2005       06-08-2006, 2:17 PM Reply   
Evan I know that Shaun Murray and his parents purchased some lakefront property on Lake Granbury not long ago.
Old    Jeff Vaaler (jcv)      Join Date: Oct 2005       06-08-2006, 2:28 PM Reply   
I have to advise against Cedar Creek as a vacation home lake. I live on the lake (when I'm not in college), and it's awesome with lots of good, calm, deep water, but only because I can do most of my riding during the week when the lake is completely empty. There are literally only a handful of people who live on the lake full-time. However, on summer weekends and holidays--which is when I assume you'll be spending most of your time in a lake house--this place is an ocean with the hundreds and hundreds of yahoos and sea walls. Rich is right though, the houses and communities are very nice, but the surrounding towns are a mix of ghetto and white trash, so you'll be spending ALL of your time on the lake unless you decide to make the trek to Dallas. Chuck Norris and a couple Dallas Cowboys have homes down here for what it's worth. If you do look into some property, request on the furthest south (much smoother) end of the lake.

Lake Travis would make a good vacation house because it's one of the few Texas lakes that's still refreshing (cold) in the middle of summer.

(Message edited by jcv on June 08, 2006)
Old    B.C.P...........Mike (wakeeater2003)      Join Date: Mar 2004       06-08-2006, 2:31 PM Reply   
Dam this sound like lake tulloch in california. Your on the water and there are a bunch of million dollar houses. Go down the street and everybody is missing teeth. Meth capital of the world.
I am very jeoulous of the housing prices in texas sounds cool. later, Mike
Old    rodney (azwakekid)      Join Date: Apr 2005       06-08-2006, 2:31 PM Reply   
u should just buy a place on the water in arizona, there is a new private lake in az, its in queen creek, im sure there are tons of property in that community still its called mccormick something idk exacually
Old    Jeff Vaaler (jcv)      Join Date: Oct 2005       06-08-2006, 2:34 PM Reply   
mike, that just about sums it up. amazingly, crime has never been an issue in the 10 years i've been coming to the lake (i've only lived here full-time for the last 2 years though)
Old    bocephus            06-08-2006, 2:47 PM Reply   
Rodney P, do you mean SANTAN LAKESIDE ESTATES? That's the only newer lake community that I know of in AZ.
Old    Adam Curtis (acurtis_ttu)      Join Date: May 2004       06-08-2006, 3:07 PM Reply   
Austin is where you wanna be in Texas. Three lakes fairly close all fed by the same river, Travis, LBJ and Lake Austin. I live on Lake Houston in Houston, you can find small (2000-2800 sq ft) homes, lake front (not acess) for $250kish all day long but your livin with the bass fisherman.
Good luck finding something on one of Austin's lake for 300k (lakefront). $500k is do-able.
Old    Adam Curtis (acurtis_ttu)      Join Date: May 2004       06-08-2006, 3:09 PM Reply   
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Old    Jeff Vaaler (jcv)      Join Date: Oct 2005       06-08-2006, 3:16 PM Reply   
Lake Austin is the only one I'd consider in Austin. LBJ and Travis are zoos almost year round.

The best Metro riding location is probably Lake Medina near San Antonio, but I don't remember many lake homes on it. Granbury sounds like your safest bet if good water is important.

(Message edited by jcv on June 08, 2006)
Old    Rich (rich_g)      Join Date: May 2003       06-08-2006, 3:28 PM Reply   
Jeff, you make some good points about CCL, but I think the weekend conditions are universal on all the lakes mentioned so far. He said he wanted to be close to a metro area. I live on Lake Athens - a tenth the size of CCL and even it gets crazy on weekends.
Old    shane k (blind)      Join Date: Jun 2006       06-08-2006, 4:23 PM Reply   
lake granbury, riding is ok,rock walls make for a choppy lake fast. very good water on the north end where it goes back to being a river. some what affordable lake lots , the lake is a constent level lake so you wont have to worry about it having water in it,and best of all extremly close to the best water in the world
Old    Jeremy Krenek (crowmobe540)      Join Date: Mar 2004       06-08-2006, 5:10 PM Reply   
Travis has lake front for sale. I don't know that you can get it for that cheap. I would look way north on travis near lake marble falls (but on the travis side). It will have butter and about an hour from austin
Old    mendo247            06-08-2006, 5:14 PM Reply   
somebody kill this thread before i put my house up for sale!!
Old    Trevor (centralcali)      Join Date: Jan 2005       06-08-2006, 5:42 PM Reply   
Before everyone puts their homes up for sale in California, check on property taxes. In Texas you pay over 3%! On a $400k house you are going to pay OVER $12k A YEAR in taxes. That's 1G a month in taxes before you ever touch the mortgage. Still good deals over there I'm sure, just not a 'cheap' as you may think. Sorry, to burst any bubbles.
Old    GD (greatdane)      Join Date: Feb 2001       06-08-2006, 6:06 PM Reply   
CA: $1.5M for a 3K sqft waterfront house; 1.2% prop tax; 9% income tax.

TX: $0.5M for a 3K sqft waterfront house; 3$ prop tax; 0% income tax.

Texas still looks like a better deal if you have income and you are not protected by prop 13 in CA.
Old    Eddy Celis (bughunter)      Join Date: Nov 2001       06-08-2006, 6:09 PM Reply   
I used to live on Medina Lake close to San Antonio. It is a great lake, but it is not constant level. My son just came back from a trip to there and told me that the lake is about 40' (!!!) down. Our lakefront is now a 1 foot wide trickle... I feel sorry for the guy who bought my house.

Austn lake is by far the nicest wakeboard lake. Not only because of the water, but the whole 'vibe' around that place just screams wakeboarding.
Old    mango (mango)      Join Date: Mar 2004       06-08-2006, 10:53 PM Reply   
you just can't beat those prices....New Jersey is just too expensive here ;)
Old    Cliff (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       06-09-2006, 7:30 AM Reply   
Rich
I hear alot of good things about lake Athens
I have thought about checking it out
isn't it the cleanest, clearest...next to Travis?

but
I hear that if you ski in the wrong direction...they will ticket you...is that true?

family has land/cabin on Palistine, near Tyler

last year on July 4th...we counted 5 boats...at 2 in the afternoon

CPA and also partner have cabins on Whitney....beautiful lake
Old    Jeff Vaaler (jcv)      Join Date: Oct 2005       06-09-2006, 7:35 AM Reply   
Cliff,

Lake Athens is a small lake in Athens (small town) near Cedar Creek, about half an hour from Tyler. I think you must mean Lake Austin which is connected to Travis and has some of he cleanest, coldest water in the state, but I don't know about the rules.
Old    Jeff Baker (innov8)      Join Date: May 2005       06-09-2006, 7:55 AM Reply   
Shane If you no Lake Granbury well, then you can ALWAYS find a great place to wakeboard where the water is killer and maybe one or two boats. The lake is over 50 miles long and there are alot of great areas to board. Ya the main areas of the lake get choppy, but we never ride in those areas, and all the weekend riders dont know the lake so they stay in the main areas with the public ramps and the choppy conditions.and then like you said we have the river above and below Lake Granbury that is some of the best water in the world. IMO You cant beat this lake for boarding.
Old    Jeff Vaaler (jcv)      Join Date: Oct 2005       06-09-2006, 8:02 AM Reply   
Jeff,

shhhhhh! You're breaking about 100 rules right now on dallaswakeboarding.com in regards to the place on the river that shall not be named
Old    Jason G (jason_ssr)      Join Date: Apr 2001       06-09-2006, 8:17 AM Reply   
in Tx:

Lakefront + close metro = crowded and expensive

Lakefront + 1hour to metro = cheap and uncrowded

if you can get 1 to 1.5 hours outside downtown Dallas, you can live like a king on $300k
Old    Jeff Vaaler (jcv)      Join Date: Oct 2005       06-09-2006, 8:30 AM Reply   
Jason, true that. The same $300k that can get you a palace on Cedar Creek won't get you very far, if anywhere, on a lake in downtown Dallas.
Old    Jeff Baker (innov8)      Join Date: May 2005       06-09-2006, 8:31 AM Reply   
Jeff thats funny, good thing we are on wakeworld!!
Old    Davis (board4ce07)      Join Date: May 2004       06-09-2006, 9:19 AM Reply   
Lake Athens, TX. Its the best dude!
Old    C.I.E..... Evan (guido)      Join Date: Jul 2002       06-09-2006, 9:28 AM Reply   
BG... I'm on it. Trevor: 1k a month for property taxes isn't to bad when my mortgage would be about $100 after selling my house in Cali and putting the cash down. LOL. Plus, they don't have income tax (from what I remember).

I don't even think I'd have to work. I think I could sell our place in tahoe and my car and pay cash for a couple condos somewhere, get those puppies rented, and I could just kick it at the lake all day. Man, that'd suck.

I forwarded a couple listings to the wife yesterday. I'll get her looking to see if Oracle has an office in Texas.

Only problem is the fact that once you move out of Cali you can pretty much kiss it good bye. It gets pretty tough to get back into the market after a couple years of appreciation.
Old    C.I.E... AL Bischofbee (allen)      Join Date: Apr 2005       06-09-2006, 9:49 AM Reply   
WTF... You two arn't going anywhere so just get back to work. HAHAHA!!!
Old    BG WCC (bigpapaf1f)      Join Date: May 2005       06-09-2006, 9:56 AM Reply   
Ok, Sorry Allen.

Old    C.I.E... AL Bischofbee (allen)      Join Date: Apr 2005       06-09-2006, 10:03 AM Reply   
YA!! biotch!!! that's right
Old    Nick Brown (512boarder)      Join Date: Jul 2004       06-09-2006, 10:18 AM Reply   
look on lake LBJ. and the marble falls side of lake travis. those are going to be your best bets.
Old    Squid (twakess)      Join Date: Mar 2002       06-09-2006, 10:18 AM Reply   
BG, when ya move I will take over your house boat. So Al stop hating and let them move.
Old    snsbritt            06-09-2006, 11:07 AM Reply   
Nobody mentioned the pedernales river that runs into travis about 30 min. to Austin and all lake front. Great water also. There are no lots on Lake Austin for less that 800,000.00
Old    Kung Fu Wake & Video (dcervenka)      Join Date: Sep 2002       06-09-2006, 11:49 AM Reply   
If the entire CIE team sold their CA residences, you could probably buy a private lake and build a compound.. Similar to the DC mountain lab.

Now that would be sick!
Old    C.I.E... AL Bischofbee (allen)      Join Date: Apr 2005       06-09-2006, 12:04 PM Reply   
We have talked about that in the past.
Old    David (tparider)      Join Date: Aug 2003       06-09-2006, 12:33 PM Reply   
Lake Conroe is yet another example of inexpensive waterfront real estate. Many developments are brand new with new homes going up all the time. You can get a big new house and a 1/2 acre waterfront for 1/3 or less of what it costs in Northern California.
Old    David (tparider)      Join Date: Aug 2003       06-09-2006, 12:34 PM Reply   
oh, and by the way, of the 10 fastest growing real estate markets in the US, 3 are cities in Texas.
Old    Kung Fu Wake & Video (dcervenka)      Join Date: Sep 2002       06-09-2006, 12:58 PM Reply   
I hear that Texas is also #1 in the LED market.


Get on it! While you're at it make sure you have a private airstrip so us out of state guys can fly in..
Old    Tom (wakeprodigy)      Join Date: Oct 2002       06-09-2006, 1:03 PM Reply   
You know, we have all kinds of nasty things in the water here. There are gators, gator gars, and water moccasins. If you don't mind riding with the aligators, fish that weigh over 300 lbs, and poisonous snakes then come on over.
The water is a pleasant crap brown/green color and you can't see more than 6" below the surface, so you never know what is swimming below/around you.
Old    C.I.E..... Evan (guido)      Join Date: Jul 2002       06-09-2006, 1:09 PM Reply   
DPC... I'd be all over it. How cool would it be to live across the lake from all your best friends. Sending beers over by remote controlled boats. We'd have to set up stadium lighting for night sets. Man, that'd be soo dope.

Al, BG, Jarrod, Billy? You guys in? BTW we'd for sure have an airstrip and a little 9 hole course around the perimeter of the property.
Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       06-09-2006, 1:14 PM Reply   
Sound nice. Maybe we should visit TSR and take in some Texas culture.

If I land this new job I interviewed for today, I won't be going anywhere for a while.
Old    C.I.E..... Evan (guido)      Join Date: Jul 2002       06-09-2006, 1:20 PM Reply   
I could pretty much work anywhere. Are there any BMW dealerships near Granbury? I'd be strictly looking for something part time so as not to interfere with my riding.
Old    CIE (tonis)      Join Date: Mar 2005       06-09-2006, 1:38 PM Reply   
I hear they have a gay porn shop you can run!
Old    C.I.E... AL Bischofbee (allen)      Join Date: Apr 2005       06-09-2006, 1:43 PM Reply   
Our wives can work and we'll "stay home and watch the kids" HAHAHA
Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       06-09-2006, 1:54 PM Reply   
H...Who are you talking to Mr. "walk around naked when you get drunk?"

You should talk...
Old    bocephus            06-09-2006, 1:58 PM Reply   
Boy, this has become an interesting thread! Thanks for all the information guys!
Old    shane k (blind)      Join Date: Jun 2006       06-09-2006, 2:13 PM Reply   
to the jeff's, you should know by now,no r word on dwb.com, haha, granbury is a great lake one of my favs. just a little to far to drive for me so if I'm driving that far I am going you know where.
Old    thug_hunter            06-09-2006, 3:01 PM Reply   
Lake Travis is disgusting and Lake Austin is worse. Stay in CALI.







And leave are badass Texas water alone.
Old    Nick Harvey (dfwharvey)      Join Date: Mar 2006       06-15-2006, 1:00 PM Reply   
No one seems to be mentioning the ski lake communities in texas either. http://www.lsfdev.com/recent.htm

And Oracle has an office in Los Colinas (right in the center of the DFW metroplex)

On that note stay the heck out of Texas I don't want to have to build my own lake.
Old    C.I.E..... Evan (guido)      Join Date: Jul 2002       06-15-2006, 1:05 PM Reply   
Thanks Nick. I'll have to forward that info on to the wife. LOL.
Old    Jeff Baker (innov8)      Join Date: May 2005       06-15-2006, 2:19 PM Reply   
Timber Cove is right down the street from my shop.
Mostly skiers not to much boarding goin on on Timber Cove. But you get a good shot of Lake Granbury from that picture, well a tiny part of Lake Granbury. That picture is from years ago there are alot more houses on Timber Cove now.
Old    shane (auto)      Join Date: Aug 2002       06-16-2006, 7:04 AM Reply   
CIE, BMW near DFW, that's funny. This is one metroplex that is car insane, everyone drives a BMW, Benz, Ferrari, Bentley, etc... DFW is the only place in the US that has a RUF, Lambo, and Maybach dealers in the same town. The other good thing about reasonable RE prices is that the salaries in Texas are nice and comparable to CA.
Old    bocephus            06-16-2006, 7:42 AM Reply   
Shane, Scottsdale has all those dealers...
Old    Aaron Nielsen (lzyboy)      Join Date: Jun 2001       06-16-2006, 8:11 AM Reply   
Evan,

My company has an office in Tx as well + we know a couple people that bailed from Disco that are luvin it out there ;) Our thoughts were exactly the same though, once you leave cali, chances are you will never make it back + we have all our family here & believe or not we like em - LOL.

I'd be game for buying some land out in Livermore / Tracy and setting up shop & digging out a private lake!

Lzy
Old    shane (auto)      Join Date: Aug 2002       06-16-2006, 8:50 AM Reply   
Bocephus not to argue about something as shallow as cars, but there is only ONE authorized RUF dealer in the US, this comes directly from the German Ruf site

http://www.ruf-automobile.de/

http://www.rufautocentre.com/
Old    C.I.E..... Evan (guido)      Join Date: Jul 2002       06-16-2006, 9:01 AM Reply   
Sick, I'd love to get a job with RUF. That wouldn't suck. That's an interesting bit of info. Sounds like they know how to roll in DFW. Nice.
Old    bocephus            06-16-2006, 9:31 AM Reply   
I guess that tells you what this hill billy knows about german cars...I heard they have steering wheels now...
Old    along (awl)      Join Date: Feb 2006       06-16-2006, 9:41 AM Reply   
What about the weather? I've known a lot of people who moved to Texas and a lot who move back. The common comments are unbearable weather in Texas. You can't put a price tag on California weather.
Old    shane (auto)      Join Date: Aug 2002       06-16-2006, 9:47 AM Reply   
It does get a little warmWe will probably be getting a summer home in the PAC NW for summers in the future.

When we looked at leaving Chicago we looked at several factors.

1. Jobs amount and Salary
2. Real Estate
3. Taxes
4. Govt
5. Guns/Hunting

There were other places that looked prettier, had better climate, but overall I am extremely happy with the lifestyle Dallas/Texas has provided.
Old    Dizzy Jenkins (dizzyj)      Join Date: Jul 2003       06-16-2006, 11:10 AM Reply   
Its real hot in texas. There are way too many bbq places and not enough tofu. Lakes are filled with gaters and snakes, and everyone is armed at all times (except for the californians). I was in 3 shoot outs this week alone.

cali is safer by far
Old    shane (auto)      Join Date: Aug 2002       06-16-2006, 11:23 AM Reply   
DJ your killing me, but your right about one thing only the kali's aren't armed
Old    Jeff Vaaler (jcv)      Join Date: Oct 2005       06-16-2006, 12:16 PM Reply   
i swear to god, everytime i go home from college somebody's out shooting snakes on the lake. and, in texas, shooting snakes requires a double-barrelled shotty. i'm from seattle, so some of the stuff here really freaks me out. don't even get me started on the die-hard smokers. cali does it right making smokers feel like they're on the bottom rung of society

(Message edited by jcv on June 16, 2006)
Old    C.I.E..... Evan (guido)      Join Date: Jul 2002       06-16-2006, 1:03 PM Reply   
"but your right about one thing only the kali's aren't armed"

LOL. Obviously you guys have never been to Oakland.
Old    shane (auto)      Join Date: Aug 2002       06-16-2006, 1:09 PM Reply   
hehehehhe. I meant legally non-gang affiliated,unless you refer to the malibucrew or wakeworld crew as gangs
Old    bocephus            06-16-2006, 1:29 PM Reply   
or San Bernidino (spelling I know)
Old    bocephus            06-18-2006, 4:09 PM Reply   
Anyone on the boards here a real estate appraiser in the Dallas/Fort Worth Area?

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