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Old    B K (wakeforce139)      Join Date: Jan 2004       06-10-2006, 5:43 PM Reply   
I know there are a million of these threads already but none of them seem to explain the entire trick, just different parts of it. I have good pop and everything so now I want to expand beyond spins into inverts. The real problem haha is that I am just not gymnastically-inclined. I just don't know how to initiate the roll I suppose. So I guess what I am asking is for a step-by-step explanation of how to do a backroll. Chicks love inverts and I love chicks so your help would be much appreciated!
Old    Jason G (jason_ssr)      Join Date: Apr 2001       06-12-2006, 6:18 AM Reply   
Initiating inverts is not the hard part. Your body follows your head, and you rotation depends on your handle position.

Come in hot and with lots of load, get good pop, turn your head, look back over your lead shoulder and leave it there. If you move your head back straight, it will stall your rotation. Once you see the water, follow it with your eyes and spot the landing.

If you are rotating to fast, allow the handle to move up slightly towards you chest to slow it down. If you are rotating too slow, pull it in to your waist and pull your knees up a little to speed it up.
Old    John Anderson (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       06-12-2006, 11:51 AM Reply   
You start with the usual progressive edge. Don't go out too far. You say you get good pop so go with that cut.

To initiate the roll, when your board goes up the wake edge it away from the boat with a hard snap and look over your leading shoulder. The "edge away snap" will increase edge and throw the board up into the air and the rotation will come around fast. Hang on with both hands with a good grip.

If you *over* rotate then ease up on the edge away snap. The bigger your wake the less snap you need. If your wake is huge you won't need any snap you can just look over your leading shoulder and dip your trailing shoulder.
Old    B K (wakeforce139)      Join Date: Jan 2004       06-12-2006, 8:41 PM Reply   
Wow those are both good explanations. I think if I am able to put those tips into practice, I should be able to pull off something similar to what a backroll should look like, with a few good falls of course haha. Thanks guys and any other tips are always appreciated.
Old                06-12-2006, 10:22 PM Reply   
What's up guys i have a quick question for all of ya'll who have been boarding for a long time. I have just started this summer behind a tower and i can go wake to wake heel and toeside and i was just wandering i am about 5'10" and weigh 185 what is the rope length and boat speed i need to go for i am using about 70' and 20mph???? also how come when i do my back roll i always hit super hard and not out in the flats like i need to i am not landing them at all? any pointers for me on that and on the air railey?
Old    Matt (pittsy)      Join Date: Apr 2004       06-12-2006, 10:41 PM Reply   
you might want to ride faster..20 is a little slow...i like a shorter line, so i ride at 70' and at 23.2 on the PP...take your backroll w2w first then take it out in the flats later on..
Old    bb12 (bradenb12)      Join Date: Jul 2005       06-14-2006, 10:13 AM Reply   
A couple of things to keep in mind with a backroll:

1) handle position- close to your body (not awkwardly close)
2) edge all the way up the wake- this is key

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