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Old    ken28            10-19-2005, 5:42 AM Reply   
Any body have tips on how to build permenant sliders ? I can build the thing once on top of the water, but I need to know how the posts (typically 4x4"s) are put in the ground under water and stay there?
Old    David D (wakeguru)      Join Date: Feb 2003       10-19-2005, 7:22 AM Reply   
You need a water pump or hose with a long steel or pvc tube attached that you use to displace the soil and bury the post.
Old    Jeff (jroyal)      Join Date: Jan 2003       10-19-2005, 8:53 AM Reply   
IMO, the easiest way to put in 4x4 post while the water is up is to use a pole driver. We use it to construct docks. A pipe with a cap plate and handles is slipped over the post and then then lifted and dropped on the post to drive the post in place. Poles go in rather easily depending on soil conditions.

If you have access to a torch and a welder, one can be built rather easily. If not, I'm sure you could pay someone to built it. Below is a rough graphic of what one looks like:

Old    ken28            10-20-2005, 5:04 AM Reply   
Jeff, I know exactly what your talking about. I am guessing I would need to sharpen the end of each post so that it would drive into the soil. Do you think that is necessary ?
Old    Jeff (jroyal)      Join Date: Jan 2003       10-20-2005, 5:26 AM Reply   
We don't sharpen them at all. We drive them with the ends flat. Depending on the soil, they can be 2'-3' in ground in a matter of 8 to 10 blows.

Hardest part is getting a good work platform. We typically do it off the pontoon boat. Watch your fingers!
Old    Jeff (jroyal)      Join Date: Jan 2003       10-20-2005, 5:30 AM Reply   
We don't sharpen them at all. We drive them with the ends flat. Depending on the soil, they can be 2'-3' in ground in a matter of 8 to 10 blows.

Hardest part is getting a good work platform. We typically do it off the pontoon boat. Watch your fingers!
Old    ken28            10-20-2005, 11:40 AM Reply   
sweet. Thanks for the info.
Old    Delta Force (wakebordr11)      Join Date: May 2001       10-20-2005, 12:42 PM Reply   
when I built my slider 2 summers ago we bought the metal spike attachments for the ends of the 4x4, 24 inch spike+ probably 3+ foot of the 4x4 in sand/muck, we had one hell of a time removing them when somebody broke it
Old    ken28            10-21-2005, 6:09 AM Reply   
where did you get that? A hardeware store like a Lowe's or HD ?
Old    ken28            10-21-2005, 6:11 AM Reply   
why were on the subject, do you guys use PVC for the top ? how do you attach it ? (counter sink a screw or soemthing?)
Old    Timothy (timmy)      Join Date: Jul 2001       10-21-2005, 6:39 AM Reply   
david's suggestion is by far the easiest, if you have access to the pump.
Old    Delta Force (wakebordr11)      Join Date: May 2001       10-21-2005, 7:21 AM Reply   
I got them at lows, they are rather expensive I suppose but they are pretty damn strong! I had one of the 4x4s driven 4-5 feet into the muck (3 ft post 2 ft spike) and they were all real hard to get out but one, holy crap I tied onto it with the boat, the boat did nothing to pull it out at all, full throttle lol
the pump idea is a very good idea, I may use that idea next time
Ken... we used the fibercon (sp?) composite deckboards, countersunk screws, real easy application...
Old    ken28            10-21-2005, 8:05 AM Reply   
all good tips. Thanks guys
Old    Ben C (dadthedriver)      Join Date: Jul 2004       10-22-2005, 4:07 PM Reply   
The post ends are about 15 bucks at Home Depot. We have 10 of them we can set up a 30 foot rail in about 2 hours start to finish and take it back down in about 1 hour. It is rock solid to hit and very easy to build.
Old    Stacie Perry (gtaussie15)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-22-2005, 10:21 PM Reply   
Yhe, all good ideas, im building a floating slider and im still not finished but when I am, ill post the pics of the building process and pics of it in the water.

I would use wood/plastic deck composit such as T-REX or what wheeler had mentioned, or go with PVC where you would use toggle bolts coming in from the bottom.
Old    SFX (blueplastic)      Join Date: Jan 2004       10-25-2005, 10:10 AM Reply   
If the water depth where the slider will be located is about 8 feet, is a permanent slider even an option? Or will I have to go with a floating slider?

Robert...definitely post some pics!

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