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Old    David Williams (wakeworld)      Join Date: Jan 1997       09-06-2003, 5:32 PM Reply   
I just added a photo gallery of the new LF bindings as well as a better explanation (I hope) of how they work at http://www.wakeworld.com/news/2003/liquidforce6.asp. Let me know what you think of the new bindings.

We also got some pics of a bunch of their new boards and their new wakesurfing rope in the same photo gallery.
Old    hlboatsnboards            09-06-2003, 7:39 PM Reply   
This new LF stuff looks sic!!! I simply cannot wait to get them in and try them all out. I think I am excited about the new mounting and also the new material they are using! Should be a killer year for LF!!

Bill
Old    xtremebordgurl            09-06-2003, 7:54 PM Reply   
It looks awesome, defenitly some snowboard influence there but I think its great that they're giving it a shot. I don't know why anyone hasn't done it sooner. Kudos 2 LF!
Old    absolutofft            09-06-2003, 7:58 PM Reply   
I bet those transits will be like 400 bux street price
Old    Blabelmooch (blabel)      Join Date: Jul 2001       09-06-2003, 8:09 PM Reply   
The design looks killer. I can't wait to try them.
Old    Blabelmooch (blabel)      Join Date: Jul 2001       09-06-2003, 8:16 PM Reply   
Dave will these work on other boards?
Old    chris ramey (cramey)      Join Date: Jun 2001       09-06-2003, 8:19 PM Reply   
Supposedly they are like snowboard bindings, where they rotate around a plastic base, and will be displayed in stores in a boot/bindings combination like snowboard bindings are...

they better work with other boards, i couldn't imagine they wouldn't be.
Old     (fuel)      Join Date: Apr 2002       09-06-2003, 8:50 PM Reply   
What happened to the Team bindings?
Old    Paula Sundberg (wakepaula)      Join Date: Jul 2002       09-06-2003, 11:09 PM Reply   
Humm, they kind of look like something I would see on the "Jettsons" feet. I suppose if LF is looking towards the future then they are headed in the right direction. I'll have to keep an open mind :-)
Old    English (kristian)      Join Date: Nov 2002       09-06-2003, 11:11 PM Reply   
I was all excited about the team bindings
The Transit/minx do look cool, but we'll have to wait and see how practical they really are.
Old    vandal            09-06-2003, 11:25 PM Reply   
The new bindings just look plain stupid. They look like some aborted version of the Collective Developements bindings and the CD's completely sucked. The newest version of their older bindings look alright though.
Old    BoRed (sdboardr99)      Join Date: Aug 2001       09-07-2003, 12:07 AM Reply   
I had a chance to take a look at them in person today and also talk to Scott (the designer) about the changes. I'm really impressed with them and can't wait to try them. And I'm really looking forward to checking out the wakesurfing rope too!
Old    David Williams (wakeworld)      Join Date: Jan 1997       09-07-2003, 9:27 AM Reply   
Actually, the MSRP on those is pretty reasonable as follows. I assume street prices would be under $300.

Transit - $349
Minx - $329
Alpha - $249
The rest of the models were reduced by about $20 each.

Yes, they do fit on all boards. The larger plate has a standard set of binding bolt holes.
Old    Tim H. (habersham)      Join Date: Jul 2003       09-07-2003, 4:12 PM Reply   
Do you know the MSRP's on next year Liquid Force wakeboards? Do you know if there will be another color for the Ultra's?
Old    reefhunter            09-07-2003, 8:29 PM Reply   
I got a sneak peek at the Triple crown. Watson let me check out his ultras. The material inside is very cool.
Old    dogbite            09-07-2003, 8:32 PM Reply   
Who cares about these new bindings. They are going to fall apart just like all the Liquid Force bindings I have had to warranty. I hate bindings. You shouldn't be tied down to something by your feet. How can you swim or jump away from your board if you can't
Old    wakeboardjo            09-07-2003, 8:36 PM Reply   
Sounds like a certain someone's a wakeskater!
Old    reefhunter            09-07-2003, 8:46 PM Reply   
chill dogbiter bindings dont kill people, people kill people.
Old    David Williams (wakeworld)      Join Date: Jan 1997       09-07-2003, 10:49 PM Reply   
I don't have the MSRP on the boards yet, but hopefully we'll have that up by the end of the week or early next week. I'll check on the other Ultra color as well.
Old    Matthew Melvin (melvinator)      Join Date: Apr 2001       09-08-2003, 7:02 AM Reply   
Speaking of new Liquid Force stuff, did anybody notice the bindings Kyle Schmidt is wearing in the how-to section of this months WBM? They are Grey Ultras with laces on the back?????? Anybody have the scoop on these, custom.......
Old    wicomico            09-08-2003, 7:31 AM Reply   
I'm skeptical. they just seem too big and prob a bit heavy. but i guess tech. speaking, they are on the right track. i'm happy w/ my set up now so i'm in no hurry to try them. i'm happy about new board graphics. i bought a balance even though the graphics are the ugliest i think i've ever seen.
if they are nylon and neoprene water obsorbtion is a major concern.
Old    Thane Dogg (thane_dogg)      Join Date: Jun 2002       09-08-2003, 9:54 AM Reply   
Timothy - I see in your profile you've listed that you have a wakeboard but you don't have bindings. Are you still saving your allowance for those?

Vandal - I'll agree that the bindings do look a little strange but I'm sure that I'll be used to them after a while.

Matthew - those bindings are custom. I took notice to those too. I'm pretty sure he just took the lace system from the exo's and added it to the overlay of the ultra. Pretty sweet idea if you ask me. He was always known to ride the exo's without tightening the laces up anyway. He just likes a real loose boot.

Will - ""The outside of these boots look more like a running shoe now, with wraps made of a nylon-looking material with sewn on graphics that have a ton of potential for making the boots look killer." They're a lot smarter than that. They've been doing this wakeboarding thing for a few years.

Josh - BAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!
Old    vandal            09-08-2003, 12:54 PM Reply   
Thane D...........I am pretty sure I'll have tried a pair on soon enough as well..........regardless of the looks. I just have never had the best of luck with LF bindings.
Old    root (rootc)      Join Date: Aug 2002       09-08-2003, 1:07 PM Reply   
Finially some serious binding innovation by LF. Die had HL fan, but these bindings look to have some serious potential. Anyone want to buy my 03 Parks for $349.00?
Old    wicomico            09-08-2003, 1:11 PM Reply   
thane- i'm sure they are smarter than me. but i can vouch that my 7yrs of surfing. the whole point of a NEOPRENE wetsuit is to HOLD water and let body temp warm that. so unless l.f. has come up w/ some sick new neoprene that doesn't obsorb... well, i'd have to see it. i'm sure they thought about weight, i just personally don't like extra anything-weight, fabric, give me ultra suctions and i'll be happy. more gizmos = more stuff to break.
i want bindings made out of velour or velvet, it'd be like a porno for my feet. ahhhh...
Old    Thane Dogg (thane_dogg)      Join Date: Jun 2002       09-08-2003, 1:40 PM Reply   
Will - I'm just like you, I love the ultra sucs, but the ultra sucs are gonna have that same neoprene lining. It's probably the sick new closed-cell neoprene that HL has been using in the core of their jacket ropes. It floats and it doesn't absorb any water.
Old    hippie_killa            09-08-2003, 3:30 PM Reply   
Thane is correct about those bindings. I went to the wakeboard camp a couple of months ago. Kyle said he took exo laces and had someone sew them. He said that they were really good.
Old    veganx            09-08-2003, 3:35 PM Reply   
Will, you are almost right about how a wetsuit works. They do hold water against your skin. You're body does warm this water up, and that warm water is what keeps you warm. However, the neoprene doesn't absorb water, it just holds it next to you. If it absorbed water neoprene dry suits wouldn't work.

I'm not a huge LF fan, but these bindings look nice! I'm a bit skeptical of their durablility. There are a lot of stiches going through the rubber on the overlays.

Old    wicomico            09-09-2003, 6:17 AM Reply   
bird- you said it. lot of stitches... even w/ all double stitching, things break. every pair of bindings i've ridden w/ a lace or velcro have broken. luckily, i think lf bindings last longer than hyperlite ones.
also, wet suits are different than dry suits. i dont feel like researching details of wetsuits. i'll just withdrawl that statement and just say "neoprene concerns me" that way, you guys can stop hurting my feelings over material characteristics. i need a tissue...
Old    Susie (susieq)      Join Date: May 2002       09-09-2003, 9:33 AM Reply   
FINALLY...someone has made a binding designed for a woman's feet.
Old    MATT (mattbob)      Join Date: Jan 2003       09-09-2003, 10:11 AM Reply   
Now they should design a jacket for women that is more form fitting and has an underwire.
There just isn't enough cleavage in wakeboarding.

I think I'll be asking for a pair of the transits for christmas.
Old    griffdizzle            09-09-2003, 1:14 PM Reply   
will the new mounting system work on hyperlite boards?
Old    reefhunter            09-09-2003, 1:28 PM Reply   
Thats a great Idea Push up Womens' life vest.
Old    BoRed (sdboardr99)      Join Date: Aug 2001       09-09-2003, 7:32 PM Reply   
Yes, the new bindings are designed to work on any board.
Old    English (kristian)      Join Date: Nov 2002       09-09-2003, 10:17 PM Reply   
I might just be me misunderstanding, but what is the point of having an easy adjust angle on a high end binding? How many times have you changed the angle of you bindings this year?
I can understand for a low end binding where alot of people are going to use it, but most people find a stance they like and stick to it, so being high end only one person is really going to use it.
Old    English (kristian)      Join Date: Nov 2002       09-09-2003, 10:30 PM Reply   
No need, I figured it out, thanks to a reread of daves article.
Old    custom88            09-14-2003, 2:04 PM Reply   
How much will the new Ultra Suctions cost?

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