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Old    NAW (ripr)      Join Date: Mar 2002       11-17-2013, 3:43 PM Reply   
Looks like they're teasing a big announcement coming Nov 21! Saw this on Instagram today...
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Old    Drew (Supravol22)      Join Date: Jul 2013       11-17-2013, 6:03 PM Reply   
Gonna be a big day!!
Old    supra for me (supra24ssv)      Join Date: Mar 2006       11-17-2013, 6:15 PM Reply   
whatever it is i gotta have it,
anyone want a SA Worlds?
Old    Brett Yates (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       11-17-2013, 6:15 PM Reply   
A little surf system?
Old    Mason Obray (MCObray)      Join Date: Mar 2013       11-17-2013, 10:33 PM Reply   
As long as it's not tagged as a "game changer", more power to 'em. There new models are indeed sharp.
Old    Seahawks #1 Fan Robert T (cwb4me)      Join Date: Apr 2010       11-18-2013, 4:41 AM Reply   
Well it couldn't be that they will be powered by Ford. That cat is already out the bag. Looks like a new hull design or a surf system.
Old     (Ttime41)      Join Date: Nov 2011       11-18-2013, 5:25 AM Reply   
It's a surf system
Old    DTB (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       11-18-2013, 8:14 AM Reply   
I love the new SC. Bad a$$!!! Should be interesting.
Old    Diggs (pdxWAKE) (tyler97217)      Join Date: Aug 2004       11-18-2013, 9:40 AM Reply   
I would put my money on a surf system too, but purely speculation.... They make the announcement on Thursday and then they will be in Portland at Evening with the Stars on Friday. Hopefully, they will have whatever that new release is there on Friday. That would be cool if we can be one of the first to see it. I am in the market for a new boat this year too!!!
Old    Trevor Miller (tmill)      Join Date: May 2011       11-18-2013, 10:26 AM Reply   
I have seen it and it definitely cool. But my lips are sealed
Old    Trayson Harmon (trayson)      Join Date: May 2013       11-18-2013, 12:59 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by tyler97217 View Post
I would put my money on a surf system too, but purely speculation.... They make the announcement on Thursday and then they will be in Portland at Evening with the Stars on Friday. Hopefully, they will have whatever that new release is there on Friday. That would be cool if we can be one of the first to see it. I am in the market for a new boat this year too!!!
What is that event like? It looks interesting, but don't want to drive to Oregon City from Vancouver if it's not going to be worthwhile. Fill me in?
Old    RB (boardman74)      Join Date: Jul 2012       11-18-2013, 1:01 PM Reply   
They better watch out Malibu is suing anyone who even says surf system!!! LOL
Old    Mason Obray (MCObray)      Join Date: Mar 2013       11-18-2013, 9:59 PM Reply   
I'm sure their surf system will be Swell.
Old    Diggs (pdxWAKE) (tyler97217)      Join Date: Aug 2004       11-18-2013, 11:15 PM Reply   
Trayson. Definitely worth it!!!
Leave early. Traffic is nasty. we typically do a little tailgate accross the street. Stop by and introduce yourself. My name is tyler.
Lots of cool stuff. Good prices on boats and gear. Lots of free giveaways..
Old    J D (jeff_mn)      Join Date: Jul 2009       11-19-2013, 6:33 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by MCObray View Post
I'm sure their surf system will be Swell.
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/....thumbnail.jpg
Old    Evan Miller (mtownrydr)      Join Date: Apr 2008       11-19-2013, 9:57 AM Reply   
They posted this on instagram the other day
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Old    Diggs (pdxWAKE) (tyler97217)      Join Date: Aug 2004       11-19-2013, 10:19 AM Reply   
whooaaa.... that is a big barrel!! Got word that we will see the new release in person on Friday....
Old    Evan Miller (mtownrydr)      Join Date: Apr 2008       11-19-2013, 11:04 AM Reply   
My bad somebody posted that pic to the Supra facebook page not on Supra's instagram.
Old    Darren Yearsley (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       11-19-2013, 2:52 PM Reply   
Holy, that's pretty legit
Old    Jilly (jillyjam)      Join Date: Feb 2006       11-19-2013, 3:14 PM Reply   
That barrel is MASSIVE!!
Old    Jeremy Lear (J__bird)      Join Date: Apr 2013       11-19-2013, 3:42 PM Reply   
We are stoked here at slalom shop for what Supra is about to bring to the table for 2014.
Old    Brendan (CarFanatic5)      Join Date: Apr 2010       11-19-2013, 4:20 PM Reply   
wave looks short in that picture.
Old    Tim (dezul)      Join Date: Jul 2012       11-19-2013, 5:36 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by CarFanatic5 View Post
wave looks short in that picture.
It is just a picture. No way to judge that yet. It looks a little washy but the barrel is pretty cool. I am excited to see what innovative system they have come up with.
Old    Tom (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       11-19-2013, 5:43 PM Reply   
washy? I'm not seeing washy
Old    Tim (dezul)      Join Date: Jul 2012       11-19-2013, 6:51 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by boardjnky4 View Post
washy? I'm not seeing washy
You're blind old man.jk. Look at the top of the wave starting near the prop and going back. It is impossible to tell what it is actually doing though.
Old     (JetRanger)      Join Date: Feb 2013       11-19-2013, 7:08 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by dezul View Post
You're blind old man.jk. Look at the top of the wave starting near the prop and going back. It is impossible to tell what it is actually doing though.
Well if you ask me (and most people do), that wake looks great! Good to see someone besides MC making a killer surf boat!
Old    Tim (dezul)      Join Date: Jul 2012       11-19-2013, 8:22 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by JetRanger View Post
Well if you ask me (and most people do), that wake looks great! Good to see someone besides MC making a killer surf boat!
As a previous Centurion owner, it looks okay. Not super impressive but better than most modified v hulls. If the wakeboard wake is equally impressive then it might be cool. I am not impressed but I am intrigued.
Old     (JetRanger)      Join Date: Feb 2013       11-19-2013, 9:52 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by dezul View Post
As a previous Centurion owner, it looks okay. Not super impressive but better than most modified v hulls. If the wakeboard wake is equally impressive then it might be cool. I am not impressed but I am intrigued.
I am also not impressed and also intrigued. I am also bemused, speculative, and juxtapository. I am not amused, nor am I not not amused. Though the wake is impressive it's not super impressive which leaves me impressed but not super impressed. If the wakeboard wake is equally impressive then it might be, as a whole, more impressive, though at this point I am not impressed but I am intrigued.
Old    Matthew Hibbing (mhibbing)      Join Date: Nov 2013       11-19-2013, 11:07 PM Reply   
Washy and short?...are we looking at the same picture or did I just misplace my simon cowell glasses? Anybody got a pair I can borrow?
Old     (Ttime41)      Join Date: Nov 2011       11-20-2013, 5:29 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by dezul View Post
As a previous Centurion owner, it looks okay. Not super impressive but better than most modified v hulls. If the wakeboard wake is equally impressive then it might be cool. I am not impressed but I am intrigued.
Have you ridden behind an SA or SC yet? Two very impressive wakeboard wakes
Old    Diggs (pdxWAKE) (tyler97217)      Join Date: Aug 2004       11-20-2013, 7:18 AM Reply   
Yeah not sure what some are seeing. Looks big, clean and impressive to me, but like all things, we need to see this in person. Pictures don't tell everything, but looks very impressive and have been hearing good things. There is no doubt the wakeboard wake on the SA and SC are very impressive.
Old    DTB (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       11-20-2013, 9:41 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by JetRanger View Post
I am also not impressed and also intrigued. I am also bemused, speculative, and juxtapository. I am not amused, nor am I not not amused. Though the wake is impressive it's not super impressive which leaves me impressed but not super impressed. If the wakeboard wake is equally impressive then it might be, as a whole, more impressive, though at this point I am not impressed but I am intrigued.
Jet,

You have too much time on your hands. I did laugh pretty hard though. Thx.

I'm impressed, well I'm really not sure what I am now.
Old     (JetRangerThePoser)      Join Date: Aug 2013       11-20-2013, 1:09 PM Reply   
"And, while I'm amused by not being amused, and unimpressively bemused, I am also too sexy for my shirt." Right Said Jet.

Old    Tim (dezul)      Join Date: Jul 2012       11-20-2013, 6:46 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by Ttime41 View Post
Have you ridden behind an SA or SC yet? Two very impressive wakeboard wakes
Maybe they went all reverse Tige on us and came out with a deep v hull. The only sc i have seen was never used for wakeboard. I swear the guy only took it out to party cove.
Old    Seahawks #1 Fan Robert T (cwb4me)      Join Date: Apr 2010       11-20-2013, 7:06 PM Reply   
I guess we will see something tomorrow?
Old    Mason Obray (MCObray)      Join Date: Mar 2013       11-21-2013, 12:43 AM Reply   
It is going to be legit. Can't wait for the annoucement!

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Old     (tushar1234)      Join Date: Nov 2013       11-21-2013, 1:10 AM Reply   
able to do
Old     (tushar1234)      Join Date: Nov 2013       11-21-2013, 1:11 AM Reply   
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able to do
all is well
Old     (iamcdn)      Join Date: Sep 2010       11-21-2013, 8:05 AM Reply   
http://www.supraboats.com/swell/
Old    Rob G (gunford)      Join Date: Jul 2010       11-21-2013, 8:53 AM Reply   
Are those not similar to MC surf tabs which they are apparently improving upon?

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Old    Diggs (pdxWAKE) (tyler97217)      Join Date: Aug 2004       11-21-2013, 9:23 AM Reply   
Rob G
This is the first time I have seen it too... My first thought was MC as well, but if you really look at it it is different. Look at how the ram is mounted to the plate. Coming from the opposite direction (back to the front). The normal wakeplate or trim tab the ram comes from front to back and only offers limited motion. Much more range of motion and can go all the way down. Like literally 90 degrees.... Also, for those that want to switch sides it offers that quickly.
From what I have heard it is much more effective and appears to be from pics and video. I suppose it is fair to say "improved upon" though.
Old     (Ttime41)      Join Date: Nov 2011       11-21-2013, 9:48 AM Reply   
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Maybe they went all reverse Tige on us and came out with a deep v hull. The only sc i have seen was never used for wakeboard. I swear the guy only took it out to party cove.
You seem to be confused sir. Supras have traditionally had deep-V hulls (see 21v, 22v, 242). The SA and SC are part of a new generation of flatter bottom hulls for Supra, which allows them to be able to take crazy amounts of weight and get a huge, clean & consistent wake every time. They're much better for wakeboarding than the old deep-V hulls which would crumble with too much weight, as deep-V boats from most brands do
Old    Rob G (gunford)      Join Date: Jul 2010       11-21-2013, 10:00 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by tyler97217 View Post
Rob G
This is the first time I have seen it too... My first thought was MC as well, but if you really look at it it is different. Look at how the ram is mounted to the plate. Coming from the opposite direction (back to the front). The normal wakeplate or trim tab the ram comes from front to back and only offers limited motion. Much more range of motion and can go all the way down. Like literally 90 degrees.... Also, for those that want to switch sides it offers that quickly.
From what I have heard it is much more effective and appears to be from pics and video. I suppose it is fair to say "improved upon" though.
It definitely looks impressive. Hopefully MC's new/improved system does the same as I have one on order.

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Old    Shawndoggy (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       11-21-2013, 10:12 AM Reply   
That wave is really short (distance from transom to end of pocket).

Good on supra for doing something a little different.
Old    Travis (fman)      Join Date: Nov 2008       11-21-2013, 10:24 AM Reply   
Wave looks great, it can't be too short there are two people riding it at the same time. Congrats to Supra, this will drive up there stock with a nice surf system. It looks well built and I like how it engages from under platform similar to NSS.

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Old    Tom (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       11-21-2013, 10:43 AM Reply   
I'm relatively more impressed by this than I thought I would be. They thought outside the box to create a system that would not only throw a wave, but it has the adjust-ability to change the shape of the wave. Nicely done.
Old    Dennis Costa (dejoeco)      Join Date: Apr 2003       11-21-2013, 11:00 AM Reply   
It is a nice innovation but it is in the same vein as surf gate and NSS as far as I can see. I am not a Malibu fan, but they were the first in this wave of tab enhancements and therefor they would be the game changer because of the first position.

I am glad that all the boat companies are on the surf bandwagon.
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Old    SMDFSRK            11-21-2013, 11:10 AM Reply   
I'm impressed it''s as ****ty as it is. That wave is total garbage. I'm equally impressed that someone would purchase a Mastercrap for surfing. Smart move.
Old    SMDFSRK            11-21-2013, 11:13 AM Reply   
Flat bottom boat = crappy/mushy/washy wave.
Old     (Ttime41)      Join Date: Nov 2011       11-21-2013, 11:16 AM Reply   
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I'm impressed it''s as ****ty as it is. That wave is total garbage. I'm equally impressed that someone would purchase a Mastercrap for surfing. Smart move.
Your trolling adds nothing to this thread. Move along
Old    Chase Tillett (tn_rider)      Join Date: Dec 2009       11-21-2013, 11:41 AM Reply   
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Your trolling adds nothing to this thread. Move along
This
Old    Boarder 42 (jhartt3)      Join Date: Jan 2012       11-21-2013, 11:52 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by dejoeco View Post
It is a nice innovation but it is in the same vein as surf gate and NSS as far as I can see. I am not a Malibu fan, but they were the first in this wave of tab enhancements and therefor they would be the game changer because of the first position.

I am glad that all the boat companies are on the surf bandwagon.
This is an entirely different concept physics wise than both of those systems. The only similarity is its a tab of some sort mounted to a ram. Malibu and nautique both delay wave convergence. This is much closer to the trim tabs Mc has been using for a few years. Just cut in a way that allows for different water flow at different angles.
Old    mikebu (mikebu)      Join Date: Aug 2008       11-21-2013, 12:21 PM Reply   
What are the chances you can retro fit this into older Supras?
Old    Diggs (pdxWAKE) (tyler97217)      Join Date: Aug 2004       11-21-2013, 12:26 PM Reply   
I think this system is all integrated into the new Vision system so I am not sure you can. I am sure the concept could be duplicated and maybe they will do a manual system you can upgrade to????
Old    Spencer (spencerwm)      Join Date: Feb 2009       11-21-2013, 1:04 PM Reply   


The new video looks cool. I am interested to see how different this system is compared to what MasterCraft has quietly offered on the X-10. The system does look clean. I am guessing it had to be someone redesigned because of the Malibu Nautique battle.
Old    Dennis Costa (dejoeco)      Join Date: Apr 2003       11-21-2013, 1:07 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikebu View Post
What are the chances you can retro fit this into older Supras?
I will agree and disagree with you. Yes, it is different physics wise. Yes, it is it is a refined trim tab. The Surf Gate is a tab that extends sideways and the NSS goes sideways excet the motion is directly out to the side.

Finally I agree that MC has used trim tabs on the sides similar to this before. This just reinforces my premise that it is not a game changer, just maybe a nice innovation.

just my .02 or maybe .01 worth
Old    Shawndoggy (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       11-21-2013, 1:45 PM Reply   
does this work on an opposite side deployment principle like the other systems??
Old    Matthew Hibbing (mhibbing)      Join Date: Nov 2013       11-21-2013, 1:52 PM Reply   
It has two different modes: skim and barrel. It delays and shapes water in both modes
Old    Trevor Miller (tmill)      Join Date: May 2011       11-21-2013, 1:57 PM Reply   
If does work with the opposite deployment but on the barrel setting it deploys the surf side tab down to 90* under the boat.

I can say after riding this sytem it realy is amazing and rides completely different than any of the other systems out there.
Old    Nailem (nailem)      Join Date: Apr 2011       11-21-2013, 2:10 PM Reply   
Does this system also work at wakeboard speeds? Why doesn't Centurion's CAT system get more respect? It is much different than the other systems and seems like the only one that can be used at wakeboard speeds.
Old    Tom (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       11-21-2013, 2:27 PM Reply   
It doesn't get respect because Centurion doesn't advertise their boats for wakeboarding, even though they throw great wakes. They're trying to corner the surf market, which is not a bad plan.
Old    Bryce (brycejb328)      Join Date: Aug 2009       11-21-2013, 3:07 PM Reply   
so.. who doensn't have a "surf system" now? MB? I imagine that moomba will get this same system sooner than later.

sanger and epic do the tabs dont they? depending if you consider that an actual "surf system"
Old     (JetRanger)      Join Date: Feb 2013       11-21-2013, 4:06 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by SMDFSRK View Post
I'm impressed it''s as ****ty as it is. That wave is total garbage. I'm equally impressed that someone would purchase a Mastercrap for surfing. Smart move.
I'm the only one who can make outlandish statements on this forum...
Old    Seahawks #1 Fan Robert T (cwb4me)      Join Date: Apr 2010       11-21-2013, 4:37 PM Reply   
Well this new system is making waves.
Old    Lionel (lionel)      Join Date: Nov 2005       11-21-2013, 5:00 PM Reply   
Good info Trevor, so at skim it's more of a 45 degree angle?
Old    Trevor Miller (tmill)      Join Date: May 2011       11-21-2013, 5:20 PM Reply   
I believe that the skim setting has the surf side tab at 0
Old    Austin Baley (Austinb23)      Join Date: Jul 2013       11-21-2013, 6:05 PM Reply   
im not the only pissed off owner of a 2013 supra
Old    Brett Yates (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       11-21-2013, 6:46 PM Reply   
Wave looks pretty solid. It may not be a game changer in general but with the SA and the new SC I think this puts Supra right there with Mastercraft, malibu and nautique. I honestly the days of listing a boat for surfing are gone other than for the super hardcore surfing snobs. Seeing how those super hardcore surfing snobs probably make about about 1% of the potential buyers I think this is a good move by Supra. I think another thing these surf systems do is allow boats that have a flatter hull, that is better for all around wakeboarding, have a legitimate surf wave. The Malibu's, Nautique's and and now Supras.

I would 100% expect Skier's choice to add this as an option to the moomba line. There is absolutely no reason not to.

I am really liking what Skier's Choice is doing these days. They have great looking, very luxurious, well built boats that perform really well. If I was Skiers choice I would put every boat they make on a variation of the SA/SC hull including the Moombas. I would add a 20-21' SC/SA and a 23-24' SC/SA to the line. Drop the 24v/ssv and just have those 6 models. Then for moomba I would go with the Mojo and Mondo(please rename) and that is it. Again, those 2 boats should be on the same hull design as the SA/SC. At some point I may incorporate a true pickfork to the lineup as well. I still don't get why some manufacturers try and overthink/engineer the hull. Malibu figured out the best/first. Find a great performing hull and carry it over to every size and style of boat. That has to save costs on R&D costs.
Old    Shane Rice (Shane10p)      Join Date: Jul 2013       11-21-2013, 6:55 PM Reply   
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im not the only pissed off owner of a 2013 supra
I also have a 2013 Supra. Are we really going to be mad because our boat maker continues to push forward with new ideas ? Nope cant be if anything this should really help push Supra forward in my opinion. I'm glad to see they have a surf system and it looks like its going to be really solid system . Fact is my SA has great wakeboard wake and last time I checked I can still surf behind it . I'm pumped to be surfing behind the all black SC that will hopefully be running around Portland next summer .....
Old    Brett Yates (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       11-21-2013, 7:14 PM Reply   
Shane, is Tyler getting a new SC?
Old    Shane Rice (Shane10p)      Join Date: Jul 2013       11-21-2013, 7:21 PM Reply   
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Shane, is Tyler getting a new SC?
I have no idea, but the new SC with the SWELL system is going to be a hard one to pass on those boats look awesome !
Old    Brad Noneedtoknow (bspot5)      Join Date: Sep 2008       11-21-2013, 8:34 PM Reply   
Did anybody else notice they didn't show video of the switch, only snapshots? Obviously doesn't switch very fast and tried to fool us. The wake does look better than any Supra I have seen but still not near a surfgate or NSS wave.
Old    Trevor Miller (tmill)      Join Date: May 2011       11-21-2013, 8:36 PM Reply   
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Did anybody else notice they didn't show video of the switch, only snapshots? Obviously doesn't switch very fast and tried to fool us. The wake does look better than any Supra I have seen but still not near a surfgate or NSS wave.
lol, yea trick you. I promise it switches plenty fast. There is another video out there that shows the switch, I will see if I can find it.
Old    Drew (Supravol22)      Join Date: Jul 2013       11-21-2013, 8:48 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by bspot5 View Post
Did anybody else notice they didn't show video of the switch, only snapshots? Obviously doesn't switch very fast and tried to fool us. The wake does look better than any Supra I have seen but still not near a surfgate or NSS wave.
https://vimeo.com/79718534


This video has a shot of the transfer. The press release also quoted the transfer at 1.8 seconds
Old    Tim (dezul)      Join Date: Jul 2012       11-21-2013, 10:05 PM Reply   
It all looks good to me. I figured it would be tabs. The wave looks good.
Old    Brad Noneedtoknow (bspot5)      Join Date: Sep 2008       11-21-2013, 10:12 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by dezul View Post
It all looks good to me. I figured it would be tabs. The wave looks good.
Like that video was any better? More quick video clips with tricky angles.
Old    Lionel (lionel)      Join Date: Nov 2005       11-21-2013, 10:14 PM Reply   
Austin, if (unlike Malibu) you can get the parts from Supra, these switches and brain box will most likely be compatible:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenco-Marine...31f283&vxp=mtr
Old    Tim (dezul)      Join Date: Jul 2012       11-22-2013, 4:57 AM Reply   
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Like that video was any better? More quick video clips with tricky angles.
Its part of marketing. The boat didnt look slammed in the video. It would be nice to see it with weight in it.

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