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Old    Mason Obray (MCObray)      Join Date: Mar 2013       11-02-2013, 5:39 PM Reply   
First traditional-bow option from Axis.
Old    DC (durty_curt)      Join Date: Apr 2008       11-02-2013, 5:48 PM Reply   
wow it looks like... an axis.
Old    Rance Taylor (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       11-02-2013, 6:15 PM Reply   
It will definitely draw some new buyers to the table. I like the changes to the interior.
Old    Ben R (brichter14)      Join Date: Jul 2010       11-02-2013, 7:56 PM Reply   
Moar pics!
Old    Jay Simmo (JayManAR)      Join Date: Dec 2012       11-02-2013, 8:14 PM Reply   




From the Axis fb page.
Old    Jay Simmo (JayManAR)      Join Date: Dec 2012       11-02-2013, 8:16 PM Reply   
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Old    Joe (ilikebeaverandboats)      Join Date: Jul 2007       11-02-2013, 8:42 PM Reply   
I like it, but I also like the malibu with that same bow Seems like the malibu/axis stylistic differences are slowly merging.... nothing wrong with that, its all looked pretty good so far!
Old    Mase (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       11-02-2013, 10:45 PM Reply   
Looks good as always means nothing till we see the wake... But knowing axis it will most likely be very good.
Old    Ben R (brichter14)      Join Date: Jul 2010       11-03-2013, 5:44 AM Reply   
No walk-thru bow still. Guess that makes it easier to hide bow ballast
Old    Swatguy (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       11-03-2013, 5:54 AM Reply   
I am 99 percent sure it is walkthru. At least that's what I was told by my dealer. That was the premise behind the build. They wanted to go after the walkthru market.

I don't quite get the walkthru idea/focus. Anyone who boards I am sure loves having their ballast hidden up there rather that on the floor in the walkthru. Maybe their going after the more tradition look of swapping from I/o's to this. Idk. Any core rider is gonna need bow ballast and with walkthru you're limited

Last edited by xstarrider; 11-03-2013 at 5:58 AM.
Old    Joe (ilikebeaverandboats)      Join Date: Jul 2007       11-03-2013, 8:12 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by superair502 View Post
Looks good as always means nothing till we see the wake... But knowing axis it will most likely be very good.
Im sure the wetted surface is no different
Old    SS (illini88)      Join Date: Oct 2007       11-03-2013, 8:24 AM Reply   
I prefer the walk thru bow. For me, it's primarily a convenience thing. I keep the boat on a lift. The bow is the primary entry and exit point. It's also easier when docking. That being said, I'm nowhere near a pro rider. It would seem to me that they should be able to find a better way to get more ballast into the nose using a molded tank of some sort during the build process. That being said, if it was easy to do, I'm sure a manufacturer would have done that by now.
Old    "G" (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       11-03-2013, 9:23 AM Reply   
I wonder why they went this route. I thought the whole Idea of the Axis was to give people a "Entrey level pickle fork" the pickle fork was one of the Items that made it a Axis. Along with the unique window and tower and boxy lines, Going with the traditional bow IMO puts it inline with a bunch of other boats. But Mabey that's what they wanted to do. I'm sure people with more insight than me had a good reason for the change. Mabey it's as simple a Top Deck and they now have a new Model?
Kind of like how ford and lincon share many of the same platforms. The only differance is some body work.
Old    Joe (ilikebeaverandboats)      Join Date: Jul 2007       11-03-2013, 9:28 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by grant_west View Post
I wonder why they went this route. I thought the whole Idea of the Axis was to give people a "Entrey level pickle fork" the pickle fork was one of the Items that made it a Axis. Along with the unique window and tower and boxy lines, Going with the traditional bow IMO puts it inline with a bunch of other boats. But Mabey that's what they wanted to do. I'm sure people with more insight than me had a good reason for the change. Mabey it's as simple a Top Deck and they now have a new Model?
Kind of like how ford and lincon share many of the same platforms. The only differance is some body work.
I can see them filing the need for a non-pickle, some people still dont like it. I liked that initially axis boats didnt just look like less equipped Bu's... now that bu has the MXZ it has definitely cast a shadow on the Axis line since the general styling and stance are so similar.

I also understand malibu's need to offer a more equipped picklefork, and they should do that under their name on not axis because all of us on the forums would get mad that axis was leaving the "price point" market.

double edged swords all over the place.

but i still like them.
Old    Dan (hco)      Join Date: Jun 2006       11-03-2013, 9:29 AM Reply   
To me it looks like they managed to make a slightly uncomfortable boat even more uncomfortable by taking out additional bow space. Pickleforks are not that ugly to begin with, and the traditional bow with axis's boxy lines and graphics looks pretty terrible to me.
Old    Chattwake (chattwake)      Join Date: Jan 2010       11-03-2013, 10:52 AM Reply   
I think it looks sick!
Old    Chris (cjh1669)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-03-2013, 11:09 AM Reply   
Waiting to see some clearer pics of it, but it reminds me of the lines of the new LSV. Like what I've seen so far.
Old    Jay Simmo (JayManAR)      Join Date: Dec 2012       11-03-2013, 11:46 AM Reply   
I didn't know what to expect when I heard the rumors of a traditional bow Axis. I think it looks great. I'm still partial to the pickle fork styling but they incorporated the new bow in perfectly to an already great looking boat. I honestly thought a traditional bow would look a little odd on an Axis, but I think they definitely pulled it off.
Old    Mason Obray (MCObray)      Join Date: Mar 2013       11-03-2013, 12:32 PM Reply   


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Old    Mason Obray (MCObray)      Join Date: Mar 2013       11-03-2013, 4:44 PM Reply   
Old    Ben R (brichter14)      Join Date: Jul 2010       11-03-2013, 5:02 PM Reply   
Looks better than the A22 imo.
Old    Swatguy (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       11-03-2013, 5:29 PM Reply   
Gotta say it looks pretty sweet on the water in that pic. It's like a cross between an A22 and A
VTX/VLX with still the edgy Axis look. I think that is a home run. I am just not getting the bow. When I think walkthru I think bow filler cushion option. That looks more like the older SAN . Looks like the just eliminated the chillax seat but kept the full bow. Maybe the pic is misleading and that center cushion is a filler, but from that angle it looks way to massive to just be a filler.

I am digging the look for sure. Very sharp in a time where boats seems to be going backwards in styling.
Old    RB (boardman74)      Join Date: Jul 2012       11-03-2013, 5:59 PM Reply   
I thought exactly that..doesn't look like just a filler looks like a full playpen.
Old    Evan Miller (mtownrydr)      Join Date: Apr 2008       11-03-2013, 6:31 PM Reply   
That is a really nice looking boat! Any word on pricing?? Are these expected to be cheaper than the A series? If not I don't see why anyone would buy one over an A22 but if they are less I feel like they would have a great package in the T22.
Old    Mike North Carolina (MIKEnNC)      Join Date: Nov 2012       11-03-2013, 7:51 PM Reply   
I definitely don't like it, pickle and A series looks 100 times better
Old    Mason Obray (MCObray)      Join Date: Mar 2013       11-03-2013, 10:24 PM Reply   
Old    Mason Obray (MCObray)      Join Date: Mar 2013       11-03-2013, 10:27 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by mtownrydr View Post
That is a really nice looking boat! Any word on pricing?? Are these expected to be cheaper than the A series? If not I don't see why anyone would buy one over an A22 but if they are less I feel like they would have a great package in the T22.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say 55k-60k bare bones equipped with Surf Gate, but you know people love there options and a bling'd trailer.
Old    Chase Tillett (tn_rider)      Join Date: Dec 2009       11-03-2013, 11:13 PM Reply   
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I bet that thing looks mean with a Z5 on it!
Old    Swatguy (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       11-04-2013, 12:12 AM Reply   
Was told 3-4 k less than A22 base which is 54k and some change here by me. Dealer wasn't 100% on difference as the T pricing wasn't official for him yet.

Curious how ballast stacks up against A22 plug n play option and if the running surface is same as A22

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Old    Bryce Pool (bryce2320)      Join Date: May 2012       11-04-2013, 4:00 AM Reply   
I think the boat looks sick!
Old    Seahawks #1 Fan Robert T (cwb4me)      Join Date: Apr 2010       11-04-2013, 5:16 AM Reply   
I really like the Blue/White Axis! That is a sharp looking boat!
Old    Jeremiah Long (machloosy)      Join Date: Mar 2013       11-04-2013, 6:01 AM Reply   
I love the windshield and think the boat looks great, but like some other guys here, for the more serious boarder, I don't know that it carries any advantage over the pickle-fork. On the other hand, when trying to get new buyers, it makes all the sense in the world
Old    Delta Force (wakebordr11)      Join Date: May 2001       11-04-2013, 6:08 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by tn_rider View Post
I bet that thing looks mean with a Z5 on it!
If the wake is mackin then that'll give the Mondo a run for its money! I like it a lot!
Old    Dave O (wakedaveup)      Join Date: May 2012       11-04-2013, 7:03 AM Reply   
I don't think this boat and a Mondo are in the same category. Price point boats yes, but the Mondo is 20ft 6inches with a square bow, the T22 apears to be a 22ft boat with a traditional bow. This would be more comparable to a Moomba LSV
Old    Boat Driver (LYNRDSKYNRD)      Join Date: Sep 2012       11-04-2013, 7:07 AM Reply   
Love my A22 and love the looks of the T. Its been an exciting couple of years for the wakeboard community with the manufacturers bringing new models to the market.

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Old    Travis (fman)      Join Date: Nov 2008       11-04-2013, 7:47 AM Reply   
Another weapon in the Axis lineup, boat looks really good. I would have thought a traditional bow would have looked out of place on the Axis line but they pulled it off. The docking lights also look well placed. I also like how they made it a 102" beam, its going to have some great space in a 22' boat.
Old    Greg McNeill (greg2)      Join Date: May 2002       11-04-2013, 9:35 AM Reply   
It's a great looking boat!
Old    Rance Taylor (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       11-04-2013, 9:53 AM Reply   
Looks better than I thought. Options are always good to have.
Old    Tom (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       11-04-2013, 10:52 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by wakedaveup View Post
I don't think this boat and a Mondo are in the same category. Price point boats yes, but the Mondo is 20ft 6inches with a square bow, the T22 apears to be a 22ft boat with a traditional bow. This would be more comparable to a Moomba LSV
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Old    John Ansorge (Ansorge10)      Join Date: Oct 2013       11-04-2013, 11:11 AM Reply   
Has anyone heard of how the ballast compares to the A22?


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Old    Chase Tillett (tn_rider)      Join Date: Dec 2009       11-04-2013, 11:36 AM Reply   
Memphis Boat Center just posted a video on Instagram of the surf wave. Looks super long!
Old    Chase Tillett (tn_rider)      Join Date: Dec 2009       11-04-2013, 12:04 PM Reply   
Stock ballast is 250 in each rear and 500 bow. PNP bow sack is 800.
Old    Danny D (axxxiswake)      Join Date: Jun 2013       11-04-2013, 1:15 PM Reply   
As a MI rider who occasionally takes his a22 on the big lake, this boat is intriguing to me. I love the Axis product, but the a22's bow make me real nervous in anything bigger than your standard small lake chop.
Old    Chase Tillett (tn_rider)      Join Date: Dec 2009       11-04-2013, 1:16 PM Reply   


Old    Diggs (pdxWAKE) (tyler97217)      Join Date: Aug 2004       11-04-2013, 1:23 PM Reply   
I like the blue and white one. Also the interior is looking richer with some breaks in the vinyl and patterns.
Old    Dave (bcrider)      Join Date: Apr 2006       11-04-2013, 1:40 PM Reply   
How are the A22's for rough water? I mean more so for dipping the front in rough water. My current boat sits really low so one of my top things in a new boat is that it sits a lot higher out of the water as the lake where we have our summer house can get nasty quick.
Old    Chase Tillett (tn_rider)      Join Date: Dec 2009       11-04-2013, 1:50 PM Reply   
My only nitpick is the blue piping on the seat...if your gonna do it in the inside why leave the bow plain????
Old    John Ansorge (Ansorge10)      Join Date: Oct 2013       11-04-2013, 2:10 PM Reply   
Has anyone seen a T22 next to an A22? Does it sit any different in the water?


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Old    Joe Montalto (RIDE_LAB)      Join Date: Dec 2011       11-04-2013, 2:52 PM Reply   
i actually like it
Old    A.J. West (you_da_man)      Join Date: Sep 2009       11-04-2013, 3:57 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by bcrider View Post
How are the A22's for rough water? I mean more so for dipping the front in rough water. My current boat sits really low so one of my top things in a new boat is that it sits a lot higher out of the water as the lake where we have our summer house can get nasty quick.
The A22 does good in rough open water chop. I have no worries taking my A22 in 2-3 miles of open water in 20-30mph winds. Just ad ballast to the front and get the deeper part of the "V" of the hull to slice through the chop instead of leaving the bow ballast empty and having the chop slapping the flatter part of the hull. My A22 is much drier than than my previous 23' traditional bow wakeboat.
Old    Brett Yates (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       11-04-2013, 4:40 PM Reply   
I like that a lot.
Old    Tom (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       11-05-2013, 5:40 AM Reply   
The T-22 has maliview and touchscreen ballast?
Old     (Ttime41)      Join Date: Nov 2011       11-05-2013, 5:42 AM Reply   
^ That boat has a full windshield, it's not an Axis
Old    Chris (cjh1669)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-05-2013, 7:17 AM Reply   
That video is the new LSV
Old    Mason Obray (MCObray)      Join Date: Mar 2013       11-05-2013, 9:33 AM Reply   
Whoops, wrong link. This is the correct one...
Old    Tom (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       11-05-2013, 10:07 AM Reply   
Why are they turning the whole time in that video?
Old    Jay Simmo (JayManAR)      Join Date: Dec 2012       11-11-2013, 7:50 AM Reply   


http://www.axiswake.com/news-events/news/t22.html
Old    Bryce Pool (bryce2320)      Join Date: May 2012       11-11-2013, 8:45 AM Reply   
That boat is so sick! Never thought it'd look that good.
Old    Rance Taylor (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       11-11-2013, 9:45 AM Reply   
^^^^agreed. I can see myself buying one of these.
Old    Mase (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       11-11-2013, 9:45 AM Reply   
Is it just me or does the vinyl on this boat look 1000 times better??? The new lines look really good. Will all the 2014s be getting this newer design vinyl or just the t22?
Old    Tom (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       11-11-2013, 9:50 AM Reply   
I was told the vinyl is much better quality.
Old    Bryce Pool (bryce2320)      Join Date: May 2012       11-11-2013, 10:08 AM Reply   
It appears to be similar quality, looks like they just tried to give it a little more bling. Hard to say without being in it. I wish they'd do more with grain and diamond stitching.
Old    Mase (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       11-11-2013, 10:22 AM Reply   
I actually was referring to the designs with vinyl and angles in the design. Looks way more advanced than even the 2014s a20-a24 I have seen. Looks like same material just way better quality and design. Wonder if all a series will get update on vinyl styling as well because t22 almost looks like a higher end boat from pictures
Old    Chase Tillett (tn_rider)      Join Date: Dec 2009       11-11-2013, 1:33 PM Reply   
I wonder if the A22 will get a wider beam and more freeboard next year.
Old    Tom (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       11-11-2013, 7:19 PM Reply   
Video and pics here show some pretty nice looking vinyl. Much improved.

http://www.axiswake.com/news-events/news/t22.html

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Old    Mase (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       11-12-2013, 5:29 AM Reply   
So does anyone know if this is an all new hull or based on something in the malibu lineup?
Old    Tom (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       11-12-2013, 5:46 AM Reply   
From what I heard, same running surface as A22
Old    Mase (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       11-12-2013, 6:39 AM Reply   
Well I have heard from someone at malibu it is not the a22 hull but I didnt know if it was from malibu lineup
Old    Tom (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       11-12-2013, 6:46 AM Reply   
yeah I don't know then. Obviously the front has to be modified somewhat, but it seems highly likely that it's at least very similar to the A22.

It's a price point boat, so it's unlikely that they did a lot of R&D on it. And with the success of the A22 hull, they would be crazy to do anything drastically different.
Old    Mase (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       11-12-2013, 6:59 AM Reply   
Yea I love my a22 wake. Now cant decide on t22 or a24
Old    Tom (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       11-12-2013, 7:11 AM Reply   
t22 and a24 are going to be quite different in price. The A24 would probably win for me, if money is no object. It's a phenomenal wake and huge interior.
Old    Mase (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       11-12-2013, 7:31 AM Reply   
money isnt really the factor only the wake and interior quality. a24 is looking better on the former t22 on the lattter
Old    Mase (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       11-12-2013, 7:32 AM Reply   
money isnt a factor on axis anyways... lol
Old    Keenan Henseler (Cheenan)      Join Date: May 2013       11-12-2013, 8:02 AM Reply   

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