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Old    Joe Burbo (jburbo)      Join Date: Sep 2007       10-07-2013, 4:31 AM Reply   
Wow, just saw that Dallas signed on with Ronix this weekend. Huge move, never thought i would see her leave Obrien. Congrats to Dallas!
Old    Jon Doe (Kane)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-07-2013, 7:25 AM Reply   
I think that's a good move for all parties.

She did post a ronix pic on her Instagram 2 weeks ago.
Old    John Anderson (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       10-07-2013, 8:58 AM Reply   
I can't remember the last time I saw anyone on an OBrien wakeboard.
Old    Nick Tomsyck (sidekicknicholas)      Join Date: Mar 2007       10-07-2013, 11:03 AM Reply   
Quote:
I can't remember the last time I saw anyone on an OBrien wakeboard.
Paging Mr. Nitzel
Old    Jon Doe (Kane)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-07-2013, 12:07 PM Reply   
O'Brien have a great young team imho. They just don't seem to have the marketing clout of the big guns.
Old    Alex Brennan (ATB0713)      Join Date: Oct 2013       10-07-2013, 12:14 PM Reply   
yo check out Jeff Langly man. He rides for Obrien and KILLS IT.
Old    DC (durty_curt)      Join Date: Apr 2008       10-07-2013, 1:54 PM Reply   
I ride ĦO'Brien!

to bad for O'Brien though, next to Shapiro and Watkins, she was the biggest name to be on the team
Old    Jon Doe (Kane)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-07-2013, 2:57 PM Reply   
Shapiro's been gone years. Rode liquid force last I saw.
Old    DC (durty_curt)      Join Date: Apr 2008       10-07-2013, 5:03 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kane View Post
Shapiro's been gone years. Rode liquid force last I saw.
apparently you don't understand "was" is a past tense verb
Old    DC (durty_curt)      Join Date: Apr 2008       10-07-2013, 5:06 PM Reply   
those three WERE (past tense) the most recognizable riders on the O'Brien team. but yes the video or two I've seen (past tense) had the retired pro on a liquid force.
Old    Train (ttrigo)      Join Date: Dec 2004       10-07-2013, 7:19 PM Reply   
How does it work for her now? Is she part of the ownership group, like original crew, or is she just considered a team rider? Actually not sure how that works for everyone with Ronix.
Old    Ryan Shimabukuro (ryan_shima1)      Join Date: Sep 2002       10-07-2013, 8:07 PM Reply   
I also ride on Obrien gear and love it!

Josh Sanders was also a big name for them, becoming the first foreigner to ever win the overall US Pro Tour title in 2005.

Sad to see Dallas leave Obrien but I hope she continues to come back strong after overcoming several serious injuries over the years.
Old    Ben Ax (hawkeye7708)      Join Date: Feb 2007       10-07-2013, 8:44 PM Reply   
Very cool for Dallas and Ronix. As far as successful riders go, it wouldn't surprise me if investment was part of the interest in signing with Ronix... I don't know if part ownership would come up... only so many pieces of that pie to go around.
Old    A-dub (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       10-07-2013, 8:52 PM Reply   
Copeland-Durham having "stock" and not Dallas would be quite awkward
Old    Train (ttrigo)      Join Date: Dec 2004       10-07-2013, 9:08 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by behindtheboat View Post
Copeland-Durham having "stock" and not Dallas would be quite awkward
Not necessarily. Emily was there from the beginning. Dallas has been around long enough to understand that. However, she is still a "name", so i could see her being a part of the "ownership group" or whatever you call it. Good for her either way.
Old    A-dub (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       10-07-2013, 9:16 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by ttrigo View Post
Not necessarily. Emily was there from the beginning. Dallas has been around long enough to understand that. However, she is still a "name", so i could see her being a part of the "ownership group" or whatever you call it. Good for her either way.
Sorry, but I'm not sure what your point was? My point was, if Dallas wasn't given any "ownership", and Emily has hers from the beginning (nothing's wrong with that), that it would be awkward, because face it, who's name is going to sell boards.
Old    Train (ttrigo)      Join Date: Dec 2004       10-07-2013, 9:41 PM Reply   
My point was that dallas prob doesnt care if she has an ownership stake at this point. Emily is far from being a competitive rider, and is prob more about the business side of things. Ronix doesnt need dallas to sell boards. They do ok as it is already. Wasnt taking a jab at you or anything.
Old    Jon Doe (Kane)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-08-2013, 12:52 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by durty_curt View Post
apparently you don't understand "was" is a past tense verb
Easy tiger...... Your "was" was in reference the Dallas, previous to that you had mentioned, without reference to tense, a former and current team rider collectively. I did not mean to offend.
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       10-08-2013, 6:32 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by fly135 View Post
I can't remember the last time I saw anyone on an OBrien wakeboard.
Easy there killer. Clearly you have not opened a Alliance or Wakeboard Mag recently. Langley is on Fire, the Breddas are changing cable riding, JB O'Neill is killing it, not to mention the OG's Sean O'Brien, D. Watkins, Ennen, and all the young bucks on the team. I could go on and on, but you have all heard me before. O'Brien has a great team and amazing product, Chris Johnson, the head engineer at O'Brien is one of the most brilliant wakeboard minds I have ever met, we can all thank him for a lot of industry firsts.

I have no idea why Dallas left, but same can be said about a lot of people switching companies. Not that any one took notice but Dallas was not mentioned in the 2014 O'Brien Gear Guide. I have been in the wakeboard game for 20+ years, it's happened before and it will happen again. You think someone is the face of a brand then suddenly they are riding a CRTL, if you get my drift.

At any rate I have nothing but praise for the O'Brien Team, so many amazing heavy hitters and heavily stacked with sick up and comers in the wake game, the future is looking rad as usual!

And Yeah, Shapiro hasn't been on an O'Brien board since like 2000. HA!
Old    Alex Brennan (ATB0713)      Join Date: Oct 2013       10-08-2013, 6:54 AM Reply   
Shapiro is a loser!
Old    Justin Harrelson (skiboarder)      Join Date: Oct 2006       10-08-2013, 7:02 AM Reply   
Alex, You are too young to understand Shapiro's impact on the sport and unless you have some inside information like key details of the case that prosecution passed on or he ran over you dog and didn't stop, it would be silly to call a guy a loser based on what you've read on the internet. Shapiro is an icon.

Sorry to distract from the thread. I think this is a great move for both parties. Dallas is classic and still relevant. I hope this gets her riding out there more.

Last edited by skiboarder; 10-08-2013 at 7:07 AM.
Old    John Anderson (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       10-08-2013, 8:15 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by andy_nintzel View Post
Easy there killer. Clearly you have not opened a Alliance or Wakeboard Mag recently.
Yeah. To be fair if it isn't on someone's feet riding at OWC I'm not going to see it.
Old    DC (durty_curt)      Join Date: Apr 2008       10-08-2013, 8:44 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kane View Post
Easy tiger...... Your "was" was in reference the Dallas, previous to that you had mentioned, without reference to tense, a former and current team rider collectively. I did not mean to offend.
ok ok ok, I'll forgive you this one time...
Old    Eubanks (eubanks01)      Join Date: Jun 2001       10-08-2013, 1:43 PM Reply   
Obrien still makes wakeboards? :-)

I think it all depends on where you are in the country. In the DFW area I haven't seen anybody riding an Obrien wakeboard in 10 years to be honest. I didn't see many more CWB's either until a couple of local cable parks partnered with them. But I know these brands are bigger in other parts of the country. Obviosly tthe Cali scene seems big on CWB but nobody was riding them here locally until the last couple of years.
Old    Tyson Bell (TBell)      Join Date: May 2011       10-08-2013, 4:22 PM Reply   
From what I've been told, Dallas didn't leave, but Obrien dropped her. Her contract was up, and though she is a massive name for female riders and always will be, she had stopped doing much for the company. On many occasions Obrien tried to get Dallas to do a girls camp, but she never would. She'd want more money than Obrien would make from the camp. No matter what it was, Dallas wouldn't help out unless she got more money, or if she even considered it at all. where Tarah Mikacich started doing a lot for the company and in the industry. So they made her a pro model. Ironically, the week that Obrien dropped her, she won worlds. But this is just what I've heard.
Old     (wakosaurus)      Join Date: Sep 2013       10-08-2013, 9:23 PM Reply   
I have to admit OB has dropped the ball in some areas. But they need to get rid of the driftwood and blood the brand with some new talents which is being done.
I have ridden OB and there product is great but is noted " not as cool as some other brands". I don't care if its cool or not as long as it performs! And it does. Look where CWB was before they dropped and totally changed and blooded new talents. OB is next in line. Good luck Dallas with the tail end of your career and good luck to the highest bidder !!
Old    Jason (Hooya)      Join Date: Aug 2011       10-09-2013, 3:56 AM Reply   
From an outside point of view OB might have the history but I think its brand looks weak against other brands.
Old    Corey Shidler (CRS_mi)      Join Date: Jul 2011       10-09-2013, 5:42 AM Reply   
I like a lot of the O'Brien stuff but they do need to get their act together with their website. It always has bad links and outdated material.
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       10-09-2013, 6:26 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by CRS_mi View Post
I like a lot of the O'Brien stuff but they do need to get their act together with their website. It always has bad links and outdated material.
Big changes in the website coming soon.
Old    Jon (supersonicmi)      Join Date: Sep 2005       10-09-2013, 8:52 AM Reply   
is it just me or has the Ronix website been down for like a month?
Old    Jason (Hooya)      Join Date: Aug 2011       10-09-2013, 10:04 AM Reply   
Jon..probably re-formating/re-branding it to stay ahead of the curve.
Old    Josh B (joshugan)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-09-2013, 10:25 AM Reply   
We have 4 riders with O'Brien boards in my crew in AZ and there isn't an O'Brien dealer here. We're not affiliated, connected with or getting any hookups from O'Brien in any way either.

We just know how to sniff out the best boards in the industry. ;-)
Old    Dave O (wakedaveup)      Join Date: May 2012       10-09-2013, 10:45 AM Reply   
"Shapiro is a loser" Really dude? Just stop
Old     (wakeboarder3780)      Join Date: Sep 2013       10-09-2013, 11:42 AM Reply   
While I didn't appreciate Darin being involved in drug related cases (I know nothing of his guilt or innocence) and hence there is one thing that's certain - the guy is a sick rider. Watch the following two videos and think about how long he's been crushing it like this. Does anyone else even throw a speedball? The guys been doing it FOREVER. Riders are just starting to catch up with other double inverts. Look at what he threw them with and how long ago he did it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeA-Sys08eg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcdHt36DRxk

On the ronix site comment, it may be down because there is new content coming but I'm a software developer by trade and there is objectively a way to upgrade a site and a way not to. You leave the old site up until you have the updates ready to go and make the shift overnight. Your downtime should be measured in seconds or minutes - not hours days and weeks. From a purely technical standpoint it was objectively a mistake to leave their site down for this long - especially considering the launch of 2014 gear is out on other sites. It would be the equivalent of a hardware store closing it's doors and hanging a "be back soon" sign on the door for when they get some more tools in stock. You just don't do that.

Back on topic, I personally am happy Dallas is making the move. Not to offend the Obrien fans here but in my mind ronix is a bigger brand and lends itself more to her name and iconic nature. If it's true about her not wanting to put on wakeboard camps for girls and spread the sport that kind of stinks, but I guess it depends if you are paying your rider enough to support the lifestyle they want. If Dallas had to hold a job on the side, I would respond the same way "make it worth my time, or no is the answer". Not having the details of how much a professional wakeboarder actually makes I will reserve judgement.
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       10-10-2013, 6:54 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by ATB0713 View Post
Shapiro is a loser!
Classy, in the world of wakeboarding...Shapiro has had one of the biggest influence on where the sport is now, right up there with Byerly, Gator, Murray, Parks ....
Old    Dave O (wakedaveup)      Join Date: May 2012       10-10-2013, 7:53 AM Reply   
Agreed^^ So over these guys that probably have never met the dude nor do they even know the story (regardless of guilt/no guilt) and then become a keyboard cowboy and bash him. I've said it in a previous thread, I met Darin at Gravel Tour this year and couldn't believe how down to earth, friendly, and supportive he was. It was his kids first tourny and he was completely pumped and even did a demo for the crowd (which was quick to praise him and not bash him). Darin among the others mentioned above set the foundation for our sport and that truly needs to be respected. This is a wakeboard forum, let's not forget that.
Old    Alex Brennan (ATB0713)      Join Date: Oct 2013       10-10-2013, 8:58 AM Reply   
Sorry, I didn't mean to create any ill will, but the guy was arrested for money laundering, rakateering, and all other sorts of drug related issues last year... read below... Hes one of the best wakeboarders of all time no doubt! buuutt.....

http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/showthread.php?t=791764

http://thegardenisland.com/news/loca...871e3ce6c.html
Old    Josh B (joshugan)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-10-2013, 9:37 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by ATB0713 View Post
Sorry, I didn't mean to create any ill will, ]
Yes you did. And you're back trying to create more ill will and stir the pot with your last post including links. Saying that you didn't mean to do the exact think that you are obviously doing does not change what you are obviously doing.

What do you expect from your last post? ""Gee, thanks Alex! I guess Darin really is "a loser" after all even though your don't know the outcome of the case. Thanks for setting us straight. Obviously he is guilty until proven innocent! With your clear logical thinking we demand you run for President!!!!"

Did he once purposely run over your favorite pet chinchilla or did God give you a divine mission to sully Darin Shapiro's name?

Last edited by joshugan; 10-10-2013 at 9:43 AM.
Old    John Anderson (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       10-10-2013, 10:01 AM Reply   
Arrested doesn't mean you are guilty. Apparently it was deemed that there was no reason to charge him. It's not like he was a notorious gangster or even had a criminal history. So there isn't a even a substantial reason to believe that he's guilty but got off.
Old    Jason (Hooya)      Join Date: Aug 2011       10-10-2013, 10:27 AM Reply   
"Apparently it was deemed that there was no reason to charge him"

Oh really? Seemed the whole case went a bit quiet. Was wondering what happened to the 'them'.
Old    Alex Brennan (ATB0713)      Join Date: Oct 2013       10-10-2013, 10:53 AM Reply   
man oh man, y'all win. good god haha
Old    John Anderson (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       10-10-2013, 11:11 AM Reply   
You can always search the Orange County Clerk of the Courts records to find up to date information on who's charged with a crime if you really want to know.
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       10-10-2013, 1:20 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by ATB0713 View Post
Sorry, I didn't mean to create any ill will, but the guy was arrested for money laundering, rakateering, and all other sorts of drug related issues last year... read below... Hes one of the best wakeboarders of all time no doubt! buuutt.....

http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/showthread.php?t=791764

http://thegardenisland.com/news/loca...871e3ce6c.html
Yeah and Herb O'brien, Founder of O'Brien, H.O., Hyperlite, and Ronix, went to jail for smuggling Cocaine. People make mistakes, the mistakes in their personal life don't make what they gave back to the sports any less meaningful... Sure Darin Screwed up, so Did Herb O'Brien, but you cannot deny what they both did for this sport, and that is what is seems like you are trying to take aways from the Scud!

And I Quote.....

"The story of Herb O'Brien's rise to the top of the industry began when he was just a lanky teenager, tinkering in his parents' basement with different combinations of exotic wood. Not far from the shores of Lake Sammamish, O'Brien unveiled a water ski that would shape the industry's future.

What made it different was a wide, deep tunnel under the ski that gave it better stability than its competitors.

Almost overnight, it seemed, everyone wanted O'Brien skis. Ethel Kennedy ordered a whole batch for the Kennedy clan. By 1974, O'Brien estimated his company's worth at more than $5 million.

But the storybook tale soon soured.

The next year, O'Brien and a handful of associates pleaded guilty to involvement in one of the largest cocaine smuggling operations the Northwest had seen. More charges were filed in 1977. The conspiracy involved more than 200 pounds of cocaine, worth about $3 million at the time. The cocaine was smuggled from Chile, stuffed into O'Brien skis and false-bottom suitcases.

Herb O'Brien blamed financial woes for his involvement in the drug deals. He was sentenced to two concurrent sentences of 10 years in prison and lost everything, including his company, which was sold to an out-of-state investor.

When he was released in the early 1980s, Herb O'Brien jumped right back into the industry, starting a new company called H.O. Sports. It is now second only to his namesake company, O'Brien International, Inc. Both are based in Redmond.

"It would've taken more guts than I have to come out of jail like that," said Bill Weizner, who was president of O'Brien in the 1980s. "He has done a marvelous job."

More than building two companies from scratch, Herb O'Brien, in the eyes of many in the industry, made Washington state the center of the water-ski world. More than 80 percent of all water skis made are produced here."
Old    John Anderson (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       10-10-2013, 2:38 PM Reply   
I was active in waterskiing back in 77 and remember the O'Brien story when it came out.
Old    Baitkiller (baitkiller)      Join Date: Jan 2010       10-10-2013, 6:36 PM Reply   
Lets keep things in perspective..
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Old    Erik Vannorsdel (MBofTexas)      Join Date: Aug 2013       10-10-2013, 7:40 PM Reply   
^^^^ Agree
Old    Jordan Leininger (jordanleininger21)      Join Date: Aug 2012       10-10-2013, 9:01 PM Reply   
^^^^ dang
Old    DC (durty_curt)      Join Date: Apr 2008       10-10-2013, 9:30 PM Reply   
what the hell is up with her shades???
Old    John Anderson (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       10-11-2013, 7:07 AM Reply   
Probably borrowed them from her mom.
Old    Brad S (wakeskierbrad)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-11-2013, 10:24 AM Reply   
Heard all charges were dropped for Darin. Also heard that he is making a come back to the Pro Tour next year. Guess we will wait and see.
Old    Ryan (ryanw209)      Join Date: Jan 2010       10-11-2013, 11:56 AM Reply   
I heard he'll also be riding for Ronix on the tour next year
Old    Sander (tripsw)      Join Date: May 2006       10-11-2013, 10:45 PM Reply   
Darin back on the pro tour? Now that's some cool gossip!
And congrats to Dallas.
Old    Jon Doe (Kane)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-12-2013, 3:48 AM Reply   
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what the hell is up with her shades???
She was wearing shades?!
Old    DC (durty_curt)      Join Date: Apr 2008       10-12-2013, 7:07 AM Reply   
hahahaha! I was waiting for someone to say something like that!
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       10-12-2013, 10:50 AM Reply   
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Darin back on the pro tour? Now that's some cool gossip!
And congrats to Dallas.
highly unlikely.
Old    Sander (tripsw)      Join Date: May 2006       10-12-2013, 9:02 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by andy_nintzel View Post
highly unlikely.
Absolutely, but it's a cool thought. Shapiro vs Parks on the pro tour '14!
Old    Adam Balon (adam_balon)      Join Date: Jul 2003       10-15-2013, 10:28 PM Reply   
obrein is irrelevant and darin on the tour would be amazing.
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       10-16-2013, 7:26 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by adam_balon View Post
obrein is irrelevant and darin on the tour would be amazing.
classy.
Old    Ryan Jones (ryanjones)      Join Date: Nov 2007       10-19-2013, 9:59 AM Reply   
I know the truth and... You are all a little wrong.. Except the people that said Darin is a great guy.. I did see Dallas ride Park's new Camber board and she's looking sick on it.. Big things to watch out for in 2014 from Ronix, Dallas and, Darin...
Stay up ninja's...
Old    Adam Balon (adam_balon)      Join Date: Jul 2003       10-20-2013, 2:41 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by andy_nintzel View Post
classy.
Honest.
Old    Sloppy (winchinretention)      Join Date: Oct 2009       10-21-2013, 10:38 AM Reply   
Bottom line is... Dallas signed a huge contract BACK in her prime. She's not there anymore, O'brien needed to make some room and decided not to renew her contract.
Old    Ryan Jones (ryanjones)      Join Date: Nov 2007       10-22-2013, 10:33 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by winchinretention View Post
Bottom line is... Dallas signed a huge contract BACK in her prime. She's not there anymore, O'brien needed to make some room and decided not to renew her contract.
Ha... She is the current World Champion... You mean obrien can't afford anymore..
Old    Adam R (wakecumberland)      Join Date: Oct 2007       10-22-2013, 12:27 PM Reply   
This thread is worthless without more pics. You're welcome.
Old    Audrey (sexyws6mama)      Join Date: Mar 2008       10-22-2013, 12:44 PM Reply   
Dallas Friday (amazing rider) hooked up with Ronix (amazing board company) you can't get any better! Go Dallas!
Old    Jay (ironj32)      Join Date: Jan 2007       10-22-2013, 12:48 PM Reply   
Only input I can give is a suggestion to listen to what Ryan has to say...aside from Dallas, he's the next best source.

Ryan - Bummer I missed Pete's wedding, I hope you all had a blast!
Old    John Anderson (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       10-22-2013, 1:06 PM Reply   
Ronix is pretty big at OWC. Lot of people like them. Pretty much seemed like a business decision between the two of them. Everybody does it, but when it comes to sports it seems that the public likes to stick their sense of loyalty into the equation.
Old    CIREboardshorts.com (nuckledragger)      Join Date: Jun 2004       10-22-2013, 9:05 PM Reply   
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This thread is worthless without more pics. You're welcome.
You're welcome again...straight from her FB page.
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Old    B Poser (bbr)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-25-2013, 2:04 PM Reply   
^^^^ Yum !^^^^
Old    Vinny Armentano (VinnyA)      Join Date: Aug 2011       10-25-2013, 7:19 PM Reply   
^was waiting for that to hit this thread lol
Love Dallas, more power to her and I hope her career choices, whatever they may be work out for her best.
Old     (wakeboarder3780)      Join Date: Sep 2013       10-25-2013, 10:50 PM Reply   
Every time a Dallas picture is posted a young rider learns their first invert.
Old    Ben (kamighazi)      Join Date: Nov 2008       11-11-2013, 1:38 PM Reply   
https://vimeo.com/78945984

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