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Old    Adam Padgett (padgett)      Join Date: Sep 2013       09-08-2013, 7:10 PM Reply   
This is my first post, hope its ok to post here lol. I'm looking at purchasing a 97 nautique super sport v drive . Question is, what kind of wake with no ballast and what kind of wake loaded up? Good first ski boat? It is mint and I can buy it for 15-16,000. It has no tower, perfect pass or ballast. All that would be on my dime. Would I be better off buying a 2002-05 malibu for around 25k ish? Thanks in advance
Old    BELEZA (beleza)      Join Date: Mar 2010       09-08-2013, 7:31 PM Reply   
Adding all that stuff will add up quickly. It's a great boat when all the options are added but by the time you get it how you want you will probably be somewhere in the 20k range. If the boat is mint with low hours 20k isn't bad for a mint super sport loaded up.

As for the wake... loaded up it is legendary. Start with no ballast and add as you progress. The wake just keeps growing!
Old    Adam Padgett (padgett)      Join Date: Sep 2013       09-08-2013, 7:51 PM Reply   
Right on! The response I was hoping for. Boat looks brand new. I know the guy personally so I know he always takes care of his stuff.
Old    Swatguy (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       09-08-2013, 9:42 PM Reply   
Finding an older sub 20k v drive, especially a mint legendary one with low hours is always a great thing. Sure you are going to have to add things a you go but sometimes starting from scratch and doing it exactly how you want is better. You can get the highest rate pumps and all the sacs you want right away. Tower as well perfect pass. Sure you can find a boat with that already installed , but its gonna take a while to come across a mint one. Knowing the owner and the history of a boat an tne a t it was well maintained is worth a couple extra k to me as well. You can figure on having extra travel costs for a deferent boat and then that couple k difference is even less.

Last edited by xstarrider; 09-08-2013 at 9:45 PM.
Old    supra for me (supra24ssv)      Join Date: Mar 2006       09-09-2013, 8:07 AM Reply   
Its a damn nice one. Hope you get it
Old    Surf Addict (Desi) (phathom)      Join Date: Jun 2013       09-09-2013, 8:27 AM Reply   
Sounds like a pretty good deal. If you know the guy, go drive it and go ride it. See how it is for yourself. It wouldn't hurt if you're looking to buy a boat anyway to invest in a fat sack or two to take out and see how the boat responds to the ballast. If you're gonna be buying them anyway, might as well test the boat out with them.
Either way, for 15k for a SAN, especially mint, I would jump on it.
Old    Tim (dezul)      Join Date: Jul 2012       09-09-2013, 8:51 AM Reply   
Here is a comparable deal.
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/bod/4006397356.html

I have no connection with the seller. I just seen it while surfing the web.
Old    supra for me (supra24ssv)      Join Date: Mar 2006       09-09-2013, 9:25 AM Reply   
The one adam is looking at has half the hours, no tower, but much better looking IMO.
Adam can install things himself so what kind of prices for

1)tower i guessed 1k
2)perfect pass again guessed 1k
3) told him he could sack it out well under 1k

thoughts
Old    Small Light (stephan)      Join Date: Nov 2002       09-09-2013, 9:42 AM Reply   
For half the hours and the price mentioned, I think he would be doing very well. Those boats are built like tanks and if its as well maintained as advertised, thats a heck of a boat.
Old    Swatguy (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       09-09-2013, 9:43 AM Reply   
I would up the tower to the 2k mark. Don't cheap out on a universal. The FCT that was originally in that boat is made perfectly for that boat. If you are going to do it, do it right the first time. An ugly tower will kill resale and the looks of a classic wake machine.

New dimensions FCT would be the only tower I would stick on that boat.
http://www.newdimensiontowers.com/ga...-1996_Ski.html

Ballast can be as cheap to couple hundred fo a few sacs and a pump or two for manual full or about 1000-2500 for a full on auto system. There are endless possibilities with different budgets in mind.

I woul go in this order

Tower
Ballast
Pp
Old    Adam Padgett (padgett)      Join Date: Sep 2013       09-09-2013, 12:07 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by xstarrider View Post
I would up the tower to the 2k mark. Don't cheap out on a universal. The FCT that was originally in that boat is made perfectly for that boat. If you are going to do it, do it right the first time. An ugly tower will kill resale and the looks of a classic wake machine.

New dimensions FCT would be the only tower I would stick on that boat.
http://www.newdimensiontowers.com/ga...-1996_Ski.html

Ballast can be as cheap to couple hundred fo a few sacs and a pump or two for manual full or about 1000-2500 for a full on auto system. There are endless possibilities with different budgets in mind.

I woul go in this order

Tower
Ballast
Pp
The monster mtk is a good looking universal tower. I've seen one in person and seems really well made. Boat I'm looking at has 300 hours and like Denny said looks perfect.

Here is a few pics of the boat





In my opinion I hate the flight control towers. To me it makes the boat look dated if that makes sense. Here's a pic between a flight control and mtk

Flight control


Monster mtk
Old     (nitrousbird)      Join Date: Sep 2008       09-09-2013, 4:44 PM Reply   
PP = about $1100

Tower = $2000+. You might find a tower that will look good and be good quality for less, but don't budget on it

Ballast = $2000ish. Under 1k will not get you a good setup.

So figure $5000 at least for your mod budget. Could still be a decent deal. As for an '02-05 Malibu for 25k, I'm guessing you are thinking VLX and you have no prayer of getting an '05 VLX for that unless it is in very bad shape. You may find a deal on an '02-04 for that, and there is no good reason not to consider an '01 as well as that is the first year for the updated dash.
Old    Delta Force (wakebordr11)      Join Date: May 2001       09-09-2013, 5:06 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by padgett View Post
The monster mtk is a good looking universal tower. I've seen one in person and seems really well made. Boat I'm looking at has 300 hours and like Denny said looks perfect.

Here is a few pics of the boat





In my opinion I hate the flight control towers. To me it makes the boat look dated if that makes sense. Here's a pic between a flight control and mtk

Flight control


Monster mtk
I respect your opinion and right to choose, just know that a monster mtk likely won't add value, and could even detract value from a very nice clean boat whereas an FCT, you will get that money back because people desire SANs with FCTs...

Plus your photo comparison is not apples to apples. You compared nautique with malibu...
Old    E.J. (deuce)      Join Date: Mar 2002       09-09-2013, 5:12 PM Reply   
Count me in the FCT over anything else. Classic boat, looks better with OME parts. I think that Monster MTK is an eyesore...but to each their own, not my boat. Full disclosure, I have been looking at that FCT on my '03 SAN for 10 years, so I am biased....

Great looking boat.
Old    Adam Padgett (padgett)      Join Date: Sep 2013       09-09-2013, 5:33 PM Reply   
I personally like the mtk tower. To me it has similar lines to the newer 210. Pretty much all newer boats have went to the inverted tower. I think it looks more modern. Like they say opinions are like buttholes, everybody has one. And that's fine with me. It's what makes the world go around.
Old    Swatguy (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       09-09-2013, 5:38 PM Reply   
That's nice looking ride. Hey man it's your boat you can ultimately decide on the tower. I agree that particular Monster tower is not bad overall and the quality of Monster products is def top notch. I just think anyone looking at a Super Sport or San of that era would much rather have the FCT over the Monster. It's just makes the boat.
Old    Adam Padgett (padgett)      Join Date: Sep 2013       09-09-2013, 5:46 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by xstarrider View Post
That's nice looking ride. Hey man it's your boat you can ultimately decide on the tower. I agree that particular Monster tower is not bad overall and the quality of Monster products is def top notch. I just think anyone looking at a Super Sport or San of that era would much rather have the FCT over the Monster. It's just makes the boat.
The more I look at the fct, the more it grows on me. I think they look better with a Bimini with them for some reason though lol
Old    Delta Force (wakebordr11)      Join Date: May 2001       09-09-2013, 5:47 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by padgett View Post
I personally like the mtk tower. To me it has similar lines to the newer 210. Pretty much all newer boats have went to the inverted tower. I think it looks more modern. Like they say opinions are like buttholes, everybody has one. And that's fine with me. It's what makes the world go around.
Just beware, the resale concerns I stated are real. If I were you though, I wouldn't be buying to resell, that looks like a keeper to me!
Old    Adam Padgett (padgett)      Join Date: Sep 2013       09-09-2013, 5:47 PM Reply   
Another question is does the ski pylon come out from the center if I was to put a tower on it?
Old    Delta Force (wakebordr11)      Join Date: May 2001       09-09-2013, 6:14 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by padgett View Post
Another question is does the ski pylon come out from the center if I was to put a tower on it?
Yes, it is bolted to a bulkhead beneath the floor. You can get to the bolts through the ski locker hatch
Old    Adam Padgett (padgett)      Join Date: Sep 2013       09-09-2013, 6:15 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by wakebordr11 View Post
Yes, it is bolted to a bulkhead beneath the floor. You can get to the bolts through the ski locker hatch
Thanks for the help guys. I'm gonna do everything I can to get this boat in my storage lol.
Old    E.J. (deuce)      Join Date: Mar 2002       09-09-2013, 6:28 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by padgett View Post
The more I look at the fct, the more it grows on me. I think they look better with a Bimini with them for some reason though lol
FCT with tramp bimini FTW! (old pics I had to go dig up & wish I had something without all the junk on there, but you get the idea)







Best of luck picking it up, fantastic boat for sure!

Last edited by deuce; 09-09-2013 at 6:35 PM.
Old    Adam Padgett (padgett)      Join Date: Sep 2013       09-09-2013, 6:36 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by deuce View Post
FCT with tramp bimini FTW! (old pics I had to go dig up & wish I had something without all the junk on there, but you get the idea)







Best of luck picking it up, fantastic boat for sure!
Boat looks sick!!
Old    supra for me (supra24ssv)      Join Date: Mar 2006       09-09-2013, 7:47 PM Reply   
my vote is for the FCT
but like others its prob because thats all we have seen on them forever so it looks classic

you will prob have one custom made anyway, i bet the guy who built your roll cage could make one pretty cool
Old    Ben R (brichter14)      Join Date: Jul 2010       09-09-2013, 8:13 PM Reply   
Do not put anything but a fct2 tower on a SS. Here's my 97 with fct2

Old    Ben R (brichter14)      Join Date: Jul 2010       09-09-2013, 8:16 PM Reply   
Here's one with Bimini

Old    Jon0 (mro)      Join Date: Jun 2008       09-10-2013, 10:39 AM Reply   
i've got the same boat, and went through adding all the things you're aiming at. One thing to consider is if you have the time/patience to do all that. Adding ballast pumps looks easy on paper, but when you get down to it, is a pretty big time consuming job. The small details will add tonnes of time to the project.
Adding perfect pass isn't as hard. You will have peace of mind that it should be problem free as its a brand new unit.
One advantage on the older nautiques is that there is slightly more storage. I don't know when they changed things, but on the newer SANs, underneath the rear cushions there are battery trays. The storage on that boat is minimal, so every little bit counts.
Old    Nick (nbomzy)      Join Date: Apr 2007       09-10-2013, 11:04 AM Reply   
Suprised noone has posted this. Definitely the way i would go. The MTK looks funny in person.


http://www.roswellwakeair.com/series...tower-aviator/
Old    Sander (tripsw)      Join Date: May 2006       09-10-2013, 5:36 PM Reply   
Sure it will be your boat ( I hope for you, it's awesome! Get it!) but don't put anything but a FCTII on it. Take the one in Atlanta; I'd have to add 2K for an FCT and the time and effort to take the current tower (and wrap) off and fill the holes. That boat with FCT for the same price would have sold in a minute, I'm sure.

Aaaanyway, good luck! I envy you if you get it!
Old    Mike H (WakeNasty)      Join Date: Jun 2013       09-10-2013, 9:14 PM Reply   
FCTII. Is the only way to go.
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Old    BELEZA (beleza)      Join Date: Mar 2010       09-10-2013, 10:10 PM Reply   
E.J., Just wondering where you got your bimini from? I have a 2000 SAN that I need a bimini for. Can you point me in the right direction? Also, will tower speakers fit under there? Thanks
Old    Adam Padgett (padgett)      Join Date: Sep 2013       09-13-2013, 1:44 PM Reply   
I'm gonna pull the trigger on it this weekend!
Old    Miguel (migs)      Join Date: Aug 2006       09-13-2013, 2:53 PM Reply   
FCT2, nothin else.
Old    sperbet            09-13-2013, 3:15 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by nbomzy View Post
Suprised noone has posted this. Definitely the way i would go. The MTK looks funny in person.


http://www.roswellwakeair.com/series...tower-aviator/
I do love this tower and I'd like to see it on a SAN. Problem is it costs $2800. The MTK is like $1200, so I can see why he' want to go that route.

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