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Old    Bob (Reez)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-06-2011, 6:30 PM Reply   
Can someone tell me the difference outside of the length? How are the wakes on these boats. I am looking at both and the ones i found had a pretty drastic price differene with similar hours. I was just wondering what the reason might be.
Old    J.B. O'Neill (gnarslayer)      Join Date: Sep 2008       10-06-2011, 7:42 PM Reply   
i have ridden the launch 21 and launch 21v quite a bit, the wake gets big with a smaller amount of weight than the 22. the 21 is more steep of a wake than the 22 but you can always trim it up. 21v is not a bad boat to choose, but if you need a little extra room go for the 22.

i honestly think the 21v is a better bang for the buck though
Old    Diggs (pdxWAKE) (tyler97217)      Join Date: Aug 2004       10-07-2011, 6:48 AM Reply   
Are both boats 2005? There was a hull change in 2007 on the 22SSV and it became a much bigger boat and different wake. Here are the basics assuming they are both 2005 model year.
Both will create an awesome wake and can easily upgrade both of them to plumbed gravity games bags.
The 22SSV could be a decent crossover boat and the 21V will be more hardcore wakeboard boat
The 21V will have a much higher freeboard. Feels deeper and is deeper. Handles rough water much better.
The 21V will have WAY more storage space. The 2005 22SSV was pretty light on storage space and especially if you upgrade your ballast.
The 21V was a new boat in 2005 so it was not as nimble as the 21V of today, but is an awesome boat.
Wake will be a bit steeper on the 21V, but alot of this depends on how you will weight them. They both like more weight up front. Get the gravity games bag up front on either of the boats.
The 22ssv might be bigger, but it will not live bigger cause of the low free board and lack of storage. They will probably live pretty similar in size.
Both great boats but would need a real comparison to tell you what is a better deal. Hours? Colors? Options? Condition?
Old    Bob (Reez)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-07-2011, 7:14 AM Reply   
This is the boat I am looking at. Doesnt this seem pretty cheap for this boat? Is it possible it isn't a launch?
http://boats.iboats.com/2005-supra-l...v/1039234.html
Old    Diggs (pdxWAKE) (tyler97217)      Join Date: Aug 2004       10-07-2011, 8:00 AM Reply   
All of the 21V's were launches. They did not make a sunsport 21V until 2010 I think... Might be wrong, but it has all the goodies. Price seems pretty good. See what size bags are installed. Make sure the board racks are working good. They had a few issues back in those days. Very solid boat and puts out a great wake.
Old    J.B. O'Neill (gnarslayer)      Join Date: Sep 2008       10-07-2011, 8:12 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reez View Post
This is the boat I am looking at. Doesnt this seem pretty cheap for this boat? Is it possible it isn't a launch?
http://boats.iboats.com/2005-supra-l...v/1039234.html
buy that thing now!
Old    J.B. O'Neill (gnarslayer)      Join Date: Sep 2008       10-10-2011, 12:10 AM Reply   
heres a sweet pic i got behind our 21 launch a few days ago, unfortunately not a v drive, but it is the same hull!
were running stock ballast with just a driver at 23.5 mph. the wake kicks super good



imagine if it were the v drive and sacked out, we would be goin LARGE!
Old    Cody (loudontn)      Join Date: Feb 2005       10-10-2011, 5:30 AM Reply   
Just reiterating what's been said already but if it's an '05 22v there were significant changes made in 2007. The 22v in '05 has a really low freeboard and feels alot more narrow. Still makes a good wake, I used to ride behind one pretty regularly, but nothing compared to the 21v IMO. With that said, I'm a gigantic fan of the 21v wake because I loved the abruptness of the steep wake so others might disagree with me. That's a hell of a deal for the 21v, I'd be all over that!
Old    Bryce (brycejb328)      Join Date: Aug 2009       10-16-2011, 7:46 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reez View Post
This is the boat I am looking at. Doesnt this seem pretty cheap for this boat? Is it possible it isn't a launch?
http://boats.iboats.com/2005-supra-l...v/1039234.html
Hey man... you end up pulling the trigger on it??
Old    Bob (Reez)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-17-2011, 4:57 PM Reply   
It guy put a deposit
Down before I could
Make it out to look at it. Definitely looking still for another
Old    Bob (Reez)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-18-2011, 9:27 AM Reply   
Any one have experience on a 2006 20ssv.? I had found one relatively close I might check out also.
Old    Cory Z (geterdone)      Join Date: Oct 2005       10-18-2011, 10:35 AM Reply   
2008 Supra 22 Loaded asking 41K
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Old    Darren Nicholls (bigd154885)      Join Date: Jul 2013       07-18-2013, 10:45 PM Reply   
Hi guys
Wondering if you can help me I have a chance to bu a Supra 21V it has 105 hours on it 2005 . What would be a fair price for that boat??

Darren
Old    Austin Baley (Austinb23)      Join Date: Jul 2013       07-19-2013, 5:23 AM Reply   
http://houston.craigslist.org/boa/3925118650.html
in in Houston i was thinking about before i bought my 2013 21v
Old    Mike (luke22885)      Join Date: Jul 2006       07-19-2013, 6:27 AM Reply   
I bought an 05 2 years ago with 300 hours for 28k. Have not been able to find one for that price since.
Old    Darren Nicholls (bigd154885)      Join Date: Jul 2013       07-19-2013, 7:48 AM Reply   
I can get this 2005 supra 21V with 105 hours for 25k So this must be a good deal??

Darren
Old    Scott (scotthons)      Join Date: Mar 2010       07-19-2013, 7:49 AM Reply   
I bought an 06 21V three years ago with 200 hours for $26k which I felt was a freakin steal. Great boats. Love mine and good luck!
Old    Diggs (pdxWAKE) (tyler97217)      Join Date: Aug 2004       07-19-2013, 10:20 AM Reply   
Scott..... I still remember the day you stole that from me........ Damn.... That was a good deal then, but in today's world that is a steal. Prices are way up on the West Coast. An 05' with 105 hours in Oregon would bring over $30K for sure right now. I would say listing prices should be between $30-$35K
Old    Darren Nicholls (bigd154885)      Join Date: Jul 2013       07-19-2013, 10:52 AM Reply   
Thanks guys I am going to get the boat August 1st I will send some pics to show you the deal I got. Looking forward to having some fun.
One other question is the 2005 supra is there a 21v and 21v launch is there a difference??

Darren
Old    Scott (scotthons)      Join Date: Mar 2010       07-19-2013, 1:00 PM Reply   
Diggs, yeah I was almost positive someone was going to come in and offer more money while I was making my drive. I thank you for not doing that
Old    mikebu (mikebu)      Join Date: Aug 2008       07-19-2013, 1:51 PM Reply   
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One other question is the 2005 supra is there a 21v and 21v launch is there a difference??
Might mean the difference between having the playpen up front with ballast bag under the playpen or being able to walk up through the bow area. I thought they called that Sunsport versus Launch with the Launch having the playpen area.
Old    mikebu (mikebu)      Join Date: Aug 2008       07-19-2013, 1:54 PM Reply   
The picture above of the 2008 Supra 22 is what I would call the Sunsport model.

The is a Launch with the playpen:
Old    Scott (scotthons)      Join Date: Mar 2010       07-19-2013, 2:11 PM Reply   
I may be wrong, but I think there was only a Launch 21 which was a direct drive and the Launch 21V. I don't think there was just a 21V.
Old    nEwJ_HoSeR (tinytdubb)      Join Date: Jul 2007       07-19-2013, 4:12 PM Reply   
I bought my 05 Supra Launch 21V with 71.8 hrs. for 33k out the door with PP stargazer. VERY satisfied with it. Great all around boat. Just as advertised by fellow Wakeworlders. Here the thread I started when I bought mine. Lots of great info in here. You are getting a steal of a deal.

http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/showthread.php?t=796579
Old    Diggs (pdxWAKE) (tyler97217)      Join Date: Aug 2004       07-20-2013, 6:45 AM Reply   
Scott is correct above about the models of the 21 in thst year. Sunsport 21 came out in 09 I think.

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