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Old    Axis22            06-21-2013, 5:32 AM Reply   
So I have herd from the Axis forums that the 2014 Axis A22 will have the surf gate operated off toggle switches and they will be coming out with the new A24
Old    Chattwake (chattwake)      Join Date: Jan 2010       06-21-2013, 5:45 AM Reply   
Herd:

Old    William Burell (williamburell)      Join Date: Sep 2011       06-21-2013, 6:33 AM Reply   
More like a herd of horses that were beat to death

Old    Axis22            06-21-2013, 9:12 AM Reply   
Well they are already doing preorders for the A22 with surf gate my friend order one Monday and he should have it by the end of August. A24 might be Rumor
Old    Chris Dirty (Dmac420sj)      Join Date: Mar 2012       06-21-2013, 11:06 AM Reply   
Da moose!!??
Old    Jeff (jroyal)      Join Date: Jan 2003       06-21-2013, 11:40 AM Reply   
I was close to pulling the trigger on one but one that I wish they would change is the tower/windshield design.
Old    Swatguy (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       06-21-2013, 12:18 PM Reply   
And this of course will mean more $$ and a higher price exponentially. They are seriously pushing the limits. So much for a price point boat.

On the flip side their boats have come a loooooooong way and their wakes are macking. With the new vinyl for 2013 it's hard to discount them. I just hope they stay with the keep it simple method if toggle/ rocker switches and don't go computer LCD style. Something to be said for simple.


I think all the improvements are killing the resale value though. Who's gonna want used when couple k more will get you the upgrades. That is my biggest hang up right now in their boats.

Last edited by xstarrider; 06-21-2013 at 12:22 PM.
Old    Chattwake (chattwake)      Join Date: Jan 2010       06-21-2013, 12:54 PM Reply   
Swatguy. Just consider the fact that, with the increase in yearly prices due to new options, the older boats, which were less originally, are holding their values very well. Just look at what 2009 and 2010 A22's are selling for. Those boats were a lot less than the 2013's.
Old    Brett Yates (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       06-21-2013, 12:58 PM Reply   
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Swatguy. Just consider the fact that, with the increase in yearly prices due to new options, the older boats, which were less originally, are holding their values very well. Just look at what 2009 and 2010 A22's are selling for. Those boats were a lot less than the 2013's.
Exactly what I was thinking. Couldn't you get a decently equipped A22 for 45-50 grand when they first came out? How much is a decently equipped one going for now? 60k?
Old    Chris (cjh1669)      Join Date: Apr 2005       06-21-2013, 1:01 PM Reply   
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Swatguy. Just consider the fact that, with the increase in yearly prices due to new options, the older boats, which were less originally, are holding their values very well. Just look at what 2009 and 2010 A22's are selling for. Those boats were a lot less than the 2013's.
The prices aren't just increasing due to options. The base MSRP price is increasing before any options are added
Old    Chattwake (chattwake)      Join Date: Jan 2010       06-21-2013, 1:05 PM Reply   
All boats are doing that. However, I've been told that the A22 base price increase for '14 is only like 2%.
Old    Chris (cjh1669)      Join Date: Apr 2005       06-21-2013, 1:06 PM Reply   
Which is much better than the other lines Malibu is putting out, that's not bad at all and the normal increase I would expect year to year.
Old    A.J. West (you_da_man)      Join Date: Sep 2009       06-22-2013, 9:13 AM Reply   
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Exactly what I was thinking. Couldn't you get a decently equipped A22 for 45-50 grand when they first came out? How much is a decently equipped one going for now? 60k?
I got my new 2011 A22 for just a tiny bit over $50k, my buddy got his new 2012 A22 for mid-$50's and had dealer add more stuff. Average I was seeing for 2012 A22 was $60-$62k asking price. Like others have mentioned, it makes the guys owning 2010-2011's in a fairly good position to sell later. The A24 is not a rumor, I called on it this week to the same dealer that took the order for the 2014 Vandall. The dealers will have the opportunity to demo the A24 in the near future. Supposedly the demo A24 will have the "small" base motor in it so the dealers can see how it performs with "standard" power.
Old    Swatguy (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       06-22-2013, 7:49 PM Reply   
I guess I am thinking a bit different. Sure it's great for the guys who purchased 50's, but if I am a consumer a new boat loan rate vs a used boat loan will save you the price difference alone in interest. Also why buy the used 10-11 when u can grab a brand spankin new one for few k more with the upgrades. To me the Axis name just doesn't get the attention. While for all us who want a pure wakeboat understand its capabities and value there is no way a used Axis has nearly the looks or market from consumers as the big 3. The name just isn't out there yet. They are in the 60k range all day by me loaded with just the necessities. I guess maybe what's more of an issue iss 60k is now a budget boat .
Old    Rance Taylor (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       07-10-2013, 7:55 PM Reply   
So ready to see some actual pics of the 14' models!!!!!!!
Old    Danny D (axxxiswake)      Join Date: Jun 2013       07-11-2013, 12:02 PM Reply   
I've priced out an a24. ~72k with all the options necessary aside from the biggest engine.

The Axis "dillema" is interesting. They're the perfect boat for someone like me. Younger, less financially secure than a 50 YO. When i go out, its to wakeboard, not cruise around the lake. Don't care about "image" associated with a "Luxary" brand boat.

I was at Walloon Lake here in Michigan over the 4th, which is a VERY wealthy lake. Earnest Hemingway had a house on the lake. I launched at the local malibu dealership. I had a bunch of employees including the owner of the marina stop me and chat about my Axis. They haven't sold a SINGLE axis this year, as i understand it. Their clientel has no need for a budget boat like it.
Old     (simplej)      Join Date: Sep 2011       07-11-2013, 12:38 PM Reply   
72k? Disgusting....
Old    Tampa Wake (tampawake)      Join Date: Mar 2008       07-11-2013, 12:48 PM Reply   
Come on 60 plus K boats are not budget or even close to it. BU should just dump the V line make it Axis and be honest about the boat being a budget boat or for the regular guy.
Old    Chris (cjh1669)      Join Date: Apr 2005       07-11-2013, 12:50 PM Reply   
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Come on 60 plus K boats are not budget or even close to it. BU should just dump the V line make it Axis and be honest about the boat being a budget boat or for the regular guy.
72k doesn't sound all that high for a 24ft boat. Not many out there cheaper at that size loaded. Compare that to the 24mxz that's in the 100-110k range
Old    William Burell (williamburell)      Join Date: Sep 2011       07-11-2013, 12:52 PM Reply   
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I've priced out an a24. ~72k with all the options necessary aside from the biggest engine.
sounds about right. Think I was told 75 with pretty much every box checked
Old    Chattwake (chattwake)      Join Date: Jan 2010       07-11-2013, 1:06 PM Reply   
Yeah, good lord. What else can you get in the 24 ft range for 72k? Huh?
Old    Travis (Khyber)      Join Date: Mar 2013       07-11-2013, 1:09 PM Reply   
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Yeah, good lord. What else can you get in the 24 ft range for 72k? Huh?
Exactly what I was thinking! Does Gekko make a 24 foot boat - I kid, I kid

Last edited by Khyber; 07-11-2013 at 1:12 PM.
Old    Sheldon (Fiveflat)      Join Date: Sep 2010       07-11-2013, 1:38 PM Reply   
A 2012 A22 loaded WITH the LS3 lists out over $70k
Old    Chris (cjh1669)      Join Date: Apr 2005       07-11-2013, 1:45 PM Reply   
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A 2012 A22 loaded WITH the LS3 lists out over $70k
I know the dealer here sold a vandal edition of this exact boat for mid 60s this summer
Old    Sheldon (Fiveflat)      Join Date: Sep 2010       07-11-2013, 2:04 PM Reply   
list and sold are often two different numbers. That Vandall had an LS3?
Old    Chris (cjh1669)      Join Date: Apr 2005       07-11-2013, 2:07 PM Reply   
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list and sold are often two different numbers. That Vandall had an LS3?
yeah, on another note they sold a VTX with a LS3 for just over 90k
Old    Mason Obray (MCObray)      Join Date: Mar 2013       07-11-2013, 2:12 PM Reply   
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yeah, on another note they sold a VTX with a LS3 for just over 90k
Somebody got royally bent over.
Old    Chris (cjh1669)      Join Date: Apr 2005       07-11-2013, 2:14 PM Reply   
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Somebody got royally bent over.
It was actually a pretty sweet VTX with tons of custom stuff done to it. I don't think i would pay that for a VTX, but the guy who bought had some really cool things done to it
Old    Dave Diaz (wakebrdr94)      Join Date: Jul 2010       07-11-2013, 2:28 PM Reply   
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Somebody got royally bent over.
He'll yeah they did. Could've been In a sweet LSV for that. Even a leftover 247.
Old     (simplej)      Join Date: Sep 2011       07-11-2013, 6:00 PM Reply   
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A 2012 A22 loaded WITH the LS3 lists out over $70k
Remember when they listed at 39,999 base?
Old    Jeremy (wake77)      Join Date: Jan 2009       07-11-2013, 6:53 PM Reply   
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yeah, on another note they sold a VTX with a LS3 for just over 90k
Someone got a giant one shoved up in them. They must have saw that buyer coming from a mile away.
Old    Brett Yates (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       07-11-2013, 6:55 PM Reply   
I wouldn't be surprised if the Seattle Bu dealer was asking 90k for a fully, fully loaded VTX after freight and prep.
Old    Chris (cjh1669)      Join Date: Apr 2005       07-11-2013, 7:28 PM Reply   
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Someone got a giant one shoved up in them. They must have saw that buyer coming from a mile away.
Honestly once you throw in a ls3 and load it up 90k isn't that far fetched for a vtx. The is a high demand boat for people who want to ski too, or have length restrictions on their lake
Old    Sheldon (Fiveflat)      Join Date: Sep 2010       07-12-2013, 1:35 PM Reply   
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Remember when they listed at 39,999 base?
Just an average of a 6-7% increase every year

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