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Old    Don Fowkes (dfowkes)      Join Date: Jun 2013       06-19-2013, 12:30 PM Reply   
Is a Viper 8.1L motor 420 HP overkill in a 22ft. boat. I'm looking at a 2002 MB Sports 220V with this motor. Any feedback about this motor and boat would combo would be greatly appreciated. How is the reliability of this motor? Maintenance costs? Fuel expense? etc. Thank you.
Old    Ian Brown (wakereviews)      Join Date: Sep 2006       06-19-2013, 1:05 PM Reply   
I had the python motor in a Nautique SAN 210 for a season and it was awesome. Sounded like a stock car (if you like that sort of thing). Only had it for one season so can't really help with anything else.
Old    Don Fowkes (dfowkes)      Join Date: Jun 2013       06-19-2013, 1:23 PM Reply   
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I had the python motor in a Nautique SAN 210 for a season and it was awesome. Sounded like a stock car (if you like that sort of thing). Only had it for one season so can't really help with anything else.
How much more fuel did you burn?
Old    Big D (bigdtx)      Join Date: Feb 2005       06-19-2013, 1:33 PM Reply   
There is no such thing as overkill when it comes to a motor.
Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       06-19-2013, 1:54 PM Reply   
More power doesn't mean you will burn more fuel necessarily. The boat should plane out more efficiently.
Old    BLAIR BARHAM (jonblarc7)      Join Date: Jul 2006       06-19-2013, 2:04 PM Reply   
What is this. To much power you speak of. I have never heard of such a thing.


The engine shouldn't have to work as hard so it might be better on gas.
Old     (nitrousbird)      Join Date: Sep 2008       06-19-2013, 4:29 PM Reply   
WTF is a Viper 8.1L? It's obviously not a Dodge V10 as they didn't do one in that displacement and I don't think anyone maranized that motor. My guess is it is a reference to a BBC but a quick Google search didn't come up with anything.
Old    Tim C (lifetimewarranty)      Join Date: Oct 2008       06-19-2013, 4:34 PM Reply   
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Is a Viper 8.1L motor 420 HP overkill in a 22ft. boat. I'm looking at a 2002 MB Sports 220V with this motor.
LOL...No. No you're not. Someone is yanking your chain my friend.

2nd the BBC comments. And they are wonderful motors.
Old    Art (rallyart)      Join Date: Nov 2006       06-19-2013, 6:24 PM Reply   
I've only heard anyone complain of too much power in a boat when they swim to shore after taking their Outboard for a spin.
It's easy to make it as fuel efficient as a smaller engine. You just don't go full throttle.
Old    Mase (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       06-19-2013, 11:01 PM Reply   
Isn't the 8.1 a 454? That would be a Chevy block not a dodge
Old    Mase (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       06-19-2013, 11:01 PM Reply   
If there was a v10 viper motor only making 450 go something would be wrong
Old    Ben Holloway (BenHolloway)      Join Date: Aug 2012       06-19-2013, 11:04 PM Reply   
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Isn't the 8.1 a 454? That would be a Chevy block not a dodge
496, gen 6 gm motor I believe
Old    Detox (bass10after)      Join Date: Feb 2010       06-19-2013, 11:51 PM Reply   
Whoa. A quick google search of BBC will yield much different results than Big Block Chevy which is what I'm guessing everyone is referencing.
Old    Rob Fullerton (Gotmods)      Join Date: Nov 2012       06-20-2013, 12:08 AM Reply   
Bbc, aka rat motor.

Sbc, small block, aka mouse motor.
Old    Ian Scarlet (imscarlet)      Join Date: Mar 2008       06-20-2013, 4:08 AM Reply   
Ilmor who supply the MasterCraft engines do the MV10 range based on the Viper V10 but these start at 650hp from memory, so someones either been very busy doing a conversion or you have the Chev 496 marine big block that is usually rated at 370hp or 460hp depending on which one was used. BTW Merc also used to supply and currently now do a 502ci big block engine (Pre and Post the GM 496 era). Do you know who supplied the engine as that will give us a better idea what it is?
Old    Charlie Koch (cwkoch)      Join Date: Aug 2006       06-20-2013, 9:06 AM Reply   
A boat of that era probably has the PCM Python with was a 502 BBC....
Old    Delta Force (wakebordr11)      Join Date: May 2001       06-20-2013, 9:34 AM Reply   
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A boat of that era probably has the PCM Python with was a 502 BBC....
This
Old    Jeremiah Long (machloosy)      Join Date: Mar 2013       06-20-2013, 11:42 AM Reply   
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A boat of that era probably has the PCM Python with was a 502 BBC....
Yup, it was a $9-10K upgrade and should make 425 or 430, so calling it a 420 is pretty close. It's an absolute beast and really not much worse on fuel than any carbed pcm 351/5.8L

They also are reliable as hell, you just don't find many of them due to the upgrade cost. They are a bit louder, but if you don't like it, throw on a fresh air system. And to answer the OP's question... HELL NO it isn't overkill! If you thinks it's overkill, you have problems

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