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Old    Ryan (Wakesounds)      Join Date: May 2011       04-24-2013, 7:03 PM Reply   
I'm curious when MB and other companies start giving out details and pictures of the next year models? I'm looking possibly purchase something new at the end of the year, just wanted to look ahead and dream!
Old    Myke D (breakz77)      Join Date: Mar 2003       04-24-2013, 7:08 PM Reply   
They're pushing the 2013 models right now so you'll probably have to wait until about August
Old    Bryce Pool (bryce2320)      Join Date: May 2012       04-24-2013, 7:14 PM Reply   
Hopefully they'll redesign that tower! .02
Old    Ryan (Wakesounds)      Join Date: May 2011       04-24-2013, 7:16 PM Reply   
I heard they were gonna change some things but I have zero specifics unfortunately.
Old    Brad Seymour (rvawake)      Join Date: Jan 2013       04-24-2013, 8:34 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by bryce2320 View Post
Hopefully they'll redesign that tower! .02
X2
Old    Detox (bass10after)      Join Date: Feb 2010       04-24-2013, 10:15 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by bryce2320 View Post
Hopefully they'll redesign that tower! .02
since we're voting x3
Old    Drew Richardson (surffresh)      Join Date: Jun 2010       04-25-2013, 3:53 AM Reply   
I wasn't crazy about it at first, mostly looks, but it has grown on me with function and looks, all it needs now is round knobs. I love how easy it goes down and holds it's self in any position and will come to rest right over the steering wheel.
Old    Shawndoggy (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       04-25-2013, 5:28 AM Reply   
yeah I've hated on the tower too, but when I saw one at the local boat show it actually looked pretty good. It looks a lot lot lot better than sanger's new two point tower, and alot better in person than it does in the pics I've seen here.

The problem I have with it, and two point towers generally, is how far forward they are if you have tower speakers. The result is that you blast out your cabin occupants.
Old    Ian Brown (wakereviews)      Join Date: Sep 2006       04-25-2013, 6:14 AM Reply   
They do have a new model coming out this summer, supposed to be pretty slick from what I'm hearing.
Old    Zach Thommen (edgeski1)      Join Date: Jan 2013       04-25-2013, 6:53 AM Reply   
it is...
Old    Craig Emerton (craigtxmc)      Join Date: Oct 2008       04-25-2013, 7:45 AM Reply   
What do they have coming out Ian?
Old    Ian Brown (wakereviews)      Join Date: Sep 2006       04-25-2013, 8:08 AM Reply   
a new model of course.
Old    Adam R (wakecumberland)      Join Date: Oct 2007       04-25-2013, 8:27 AM Reply   
My guess is a 22 Tomcat
Old    Craig Emerton (craigtxmc)      Join Date: Oct 2008       04-25-2013, 8:32 AM Reply   
Anybody got Mike B's number?
Old    Hate2party (slipknot)      Join Date: Aug 2001       04-25-2013, 9:46 AM Reply   
I also would be interested in what is coming out, they start production in August dont they of the 14's?

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Old    GD (diamonddad)      Join Date: Mar 2010       04-25-2013, 10:40 AM Reply   
I would hope for...

1) better looking 2 point tower -- hate the current box top.
2) center walkway option for rear deck.
3) much less noise/vibration.
4) bow ballast option.

I could also note that I am not a fan of their obtuse pickle forks.
I would much prefer one blunt nose option like the G23.
Old    Shawndoggy (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       04-25-2013, 11:12 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by diamonddad View Post
I would hope for...

I could also note that I am not a fan of their obtuse pickle forks.
I would much prefer one blunt nose option like the G23.
Me too dd, but we are in the minority for sure. I just don't "get" the pickle.
Old    Detox (bass10after)      Join Date: Feb 2010       04-25-2013, 9:33 PM Reply   
^^ I concur
Old     (Alleykat)      Join Date: Jan 2013       04-25-2013, 9:38 PM Reply   
I coulda swore MB was selling 2014's like two years ago ?......
Old    Brett Yates (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       04-25-2013, 9:50 PM Reply   
They will have a new Tomcat in the 22' range. I think they may be getting rid of the 21' tomcat.

Mike has a really good thing going right now with MB. I am not sure he needs to change a lot. Everything is give and take. He has a deeper V which makes a low speed clean wake hard but it also means a bigger/steeper wake with less weight and a better surf wake. The biggest downfall I see of his boats is the shallow interior, especially for how much freeboard the boats have. Again, this is a give and take as the floor is higher to allow more ballast. I am not sure he has to change it though as I think he is close to max capacity at his factory as is. He could do a walk through at the transom but I think that would just add to the cost of the boat. MB's sit in a good position as is. They have above average fit and finish, above average wakeboard and surf wake's and at a price only rivaled by Moomba, axis, supreme and sanger. Supreme and sanger are even more regional than than MB. Axis and Moomba don't really have anywhere near the plushness of MB.
Old    Russ Constable (Midnightv10)      Join Date: Feb 2012       04-26-2013, 5:30 AM Reply   
I would like to see a new tower, integrated front ballast, rear deck walkway, and some kind of surf enhancement (surfgate/NSS etc..)

And bring back those flames baby!!!
Old    Matt (MattieK27)      Join Date: Mar 2010       04-26-2013, 6:43 AM Reply   
No offense to anyone in this thread, but this is why all boats are so expensive. MB has a good thing going with their simple, no frills boat line. Yet people get wind of a redesign and pile on the "wants" list. Plenty bemoan the fact of towboat prices, yet every buying customer expects high levels of trim, fit and finish, and design that simply to figure into the "affordable" calculation.
Old    Ryan (Wakesounds)      Join Date: May 2011       04-26-2013, 2:44 PM Reply   
Hopefully whatever they are planning doesn't change the price points of their boats. I think they have a good thing going as well but if the cost shoots higher I probably will look elsewhere. Here in the northwest there just isn't enough time to use an expensive summer toy and still make the big payment the other 9 months in the garage.
Old    Bill Smeltzer (runin90lx)      Join Date: Sep 2009       04-26-2013, 5:03 PM Reply   
i love my MB. the only thing i wish was that it had a cigarette lighter plug in up in the bow, and one in the back area. not just the one by the driver.

and a center walk through would be nice to keep from walking all over the seats.
Old    Shawndoggy (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       04-26-2013, 5:55 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by runin90lx View Post
i love my MB. the only thing i wish was that it had a cigarette lighter plug in up in the bow, and one in the back area. not just the one by the driver.

and a center walk through would be nice to keep from walking all over the seats.
You haven't put one up there yet? Holy smokes man, that's like a 12 minute job...
Old    Steve (steveo142)      Join Date: Dec 2012       04-28-2013, 6:01 PM Reply   
I am actualy in talks with my dealer about ordering a 2014 this winter. He said he would try and get me specs this week. Not sure what and how much he will be able to tell me, I'm sure some of it is still under wraps...
Old    Ryan (Wakesounds)      Join Date: May 2011       04-28-2013, 6:51 PM Reply   
I wonder if the pricing will be the same as the 2013's?
Old    Bill Smeltzer (runin90lx)      Join Date: Sep 2009       04-28-2013, 7:08 PM Reply   
shawndoggy..nope havent done it yet. but if i go through with an automated system i wont need it as much lol
Old    Steve (steveo142)      Join Date: Dec 2012       04-29-2013, 3:12 PM Reply   
2% price increase is what I was told by the dealer.
Old     (simplej)      Join Date: Sep 2011       04-29-2013, 3:14 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by steveo142 View Post
2% price increase is what I was told by the dealer.
Every brand has been doing this every year,,,,
Old    Detox (bass10after)      Join Date: Feb 2010       04-29-2013, 3:50 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by simplej View Post
Every brand has been doing this every year,,,,
Costs are going up on everything and everywhere. Everything from candy bars to cars cost more to manufacture, transport, build etc. It sure feels crappy when everything but how much you're making a year keeps going up. Maybe its just me but 2% doesn't sound all that bad. The houseboat mooring rates on our lake just took a 25%-35% rate hike last month depending where you park..Talk about price increase.
Old    Steve (steveo142)      Join Date: Dec 2012       04-29-2013, 4:43 PM Reply   
25%-35%= Ouch !
Old    Rance Taylor (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       04-30-2013, 6:04 AM Reply   
They are making an F22. There will be subtle changes in the interior and they will add some freeboard to it to allow the interior to get deeper. I think the pickle fork that they have is part of MB's identity. When you see these boats coming you know what they are. I haven't heard of any changes to the tower. I think a guy know will be seeing his first F22 around the end of May or June as a prototype. Whether he post anything on it or not I'm not sure if he will be able too. I can tell you I will own a new MB F24 or F22 within the next couple years (mine current boat 2012 F21).

@Bill Sm- I put cigarette lighter in the front of mine and ran it to an open ACC switch. It is a 15min project if you have the extra wire to run it.
Old    Ryan (Wakesounds)      Join Date: May 2011       04-30-2013, 10:24 AM Reply   
Will they continue to make the F21 or is this a replacement for it? Any word on pricing for it?
Old    Rance Taylor (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       04-30-2013, 2:15 PM Reply   
Yes F22 will replace F21. I think price increase is around 2%.
Old    Bill Smeltzer (runin90lx)      Join Date: Sep 2009       04-30-2013, 2:19 PM Reply   
rance...sounds like you got a project to do on my boat haha
Old    Rance Taylor (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       04-30-2013, 4:57 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by runin90lx View Post
rance...sounds like you got a project to do on my boat haha
I'm down. When we are both off one day we can get it done no prob..
Old    Ryan (Wakesounds)      Join Date: May 2011       04-30-2013, 5:19 PM Reply   
Are there any changes to the graphics that they're going to be using? I think they could use a update in my opinion.
Old    Boarder 42 (jhartt3)      Join Date: Jan 2012       04-30-2013, 6:52 PM Reply   
Really they arent going to have a 21' or less boat anymore. that is sad.. my lake and my neighbor lake have 21 and 20 foot boat limits. Not going to be able to buy a new wake boat under 21 pretty soon.
Old    Brett Yates (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       04-30-2013, 7:04 PM Reply   
They aren't getting rid of the 21 TWB are they?
Old    Preston Price (Preston)      Join Date: Jul 2010       04-30-2013, 7:06 PM Reply   
I have a feeling they might be preparing for a F20. Like Malibu with the MXZ 20/22/24, I think they might be going the same route. F20/22/24?
Old    Brett Yates (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       04-30-2013, 7:19 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by Preston View Post
I have a feeling they might be preparing for a F20. Like Malibu with the MXZ 20/22/24, I think they might be going the same route. F20/22/24?
That would seem logical.

For a long time I have thought the perfect line of boats would be to have a 20', 21.5' and 23' v bow plus a a 20.5', 22' and 23.5-24' picklefork. Malibu already has something very similar to this and I also like how Malibu has the option for a "ski" hull in the v bow boats. I have never understood why companies(Especially Mastercraft) has so many different models with all different hull designs. Malibu basically designed/found a hull that drives well, produces good/big wakeboard wakes and produces nice and clean wakes and they keep this same basic hull design across all their models whether V bow or picklefork. It seems like that would really help keep the R/D cost down or at least allow them to use their R and D for other things(like coming up with the surfgate and wedge). If I was the Skier's Choice crew I would do this as well since it seems like they hit a home run with the SA hull design. Put that hull design on every boat. Just scale it down or up depending on the length you are shooting for.

As for MB I think it would be cool if they kept the deep V type hull design they have currently but offer the 21TWB with a more ski friendly hull.Everything from the waterline up should be able to stay the same.
Old    Rance Taylor (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       04-30-2013, 7:36 PM Reply   
Yes the graphics will be a little different, but they have not nailed it down just yet as to what that will be.
Old    Steve (steveo142)      Join Date: Dec 2012       04-30-2013, 11:10 PM Reply   
I hope they dont turn the 2014 21' B52 TWB into a 20' and make it a crossover boat. I might not be buying one then. Hope thats just speculation.....
Old    E (22vdrive)      Join Date: Apr 2010       04-30-2013, 11:25 PM Reply   
I hope they get rid of the stock 10" sub location. And just stick one under the helm.
Old    Drew Richardson (surffresh)      Join Date: Jun 2010       05-01-2013, 5:18 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by polarbill View Post
They aren't getting rid of the 21 TWB are they?
It would not surprise me, I am just guessing here but I see the sales per 10 ordered close to 5 F21 Tomcats, 2 23 B52's, 2 F24's, and one 21B52. It could even be closer to one out of 15. I personally think it should stay bc some peeps just don't like the fork look and it is a cool design that has a wider interior than the F21, I even had a run where I had 2 orders out of 5. Just looking at inventory out there, they are slim.
Old    Ryan (Wakesounds)      Join Date: May 2011       05-09-2013, 10:15 AM Reply   
Anybody get details on some of the design changes or other specifics?
Old    Zach Thommen (edgeski1)      Join Date: Jan 2013       05-09-2013, 11:47 AM Reply   
We are one of the few dealers mainly selling 21 WB's as opposed to Tomcats. Couldn't tell you why. I think the change to the 22 will help. MB will have a 21, 22, 23, and 24 in the lineup evens=tomcat, odds-widebody
Old    Brett Yates (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       05-09-2013, 11:48 AM Reply   
I think the hull of the new 22 tomcat will be similar to their other boats.
Old    Ryan (Wakesounds)      Join Date: May 2011       05-09-2013, 1:00 PM Reply   
Being a dealer, do you know when they are going to release all the 2014 details. I'm curious what styling and other design changes they are making.
Old    Steve (steveo142)      Join Date: Dec 2012       05-09-2013, 4:32 PM Reply   
My dealer cant seem to get any info except " no changes for 2014". I sent a email MB asking when we might see info on the 2014's and was told " go through your local dealer, they will be the first to know". So at this point it seems like a waiting game.
Old    Ryan (Wakesounds)      Join Date: May 2011       05-09-2013, 5:04 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by steveo142 View Post
My dealer cant seem to get any info except " no changes for 2014". I sent a email MB asking when we might see info on the 2014's and was told " go through your local dealer, they will be the first to know". So at this point it seems like a waiting game.
That's a pretty poor answer from you dealer, where are they located? They should have some info, and if not they shouldnt just take a wild guess and be wrong. In my opinion they should say..."we haven't got the new model info just yet, but I will try to find out for you if you are interested." Or something to that extent.
Old    Ian Brown (wakereviews)      Join Date: Sep 2006       05-10-2013, 6:29 AM Reply   
There are definitely changes for 2014 and a new model is absolutely in the works. So your dealer is wrong.
Old    DBC (ixfe)      Join Date: Aug 2008       05-10-2013, 8:55 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by steveo142 View Post
My dealer cant seem to get any info except " no changes for 2014". I sent a email MB asking when we might see info on the 2014's and was told " go through your local dealer, they will be the first to know". So at this point it seems like a waiting game.
Sounds like your dealer really wants to sell you a 2013. Not surprising.
Old    Craig Emerton (craigtxmc)      Join Date: Oct 2008       05-10-2013, 9:37 AM Reply   
Ian, I thought I was the only one allowed on here? lol
Old    Craig Emerton (craigtxmc)      Join Date: Oct 2008       05-10-2013, 9:42 AM Reply   
We just got a couple of 21 WB's BTW... I like the mostly white one the most. Seems classic and sharp to me.
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Old    Detox (bass10after)      Join Date: Feb 2010       05-10-2013, 9:54 AM Reply   
is there a reason you're not showing the tower completely unwrapped? as in its hiding an update??
Old    Craig Emerton (craigtxmc)      Join Date: Oct 2008       05-10-2013, 10:02 AM Reply   
lol.. no sir. i just pulled the shrink wrap off and didn't take the time to raise them.. they're 2013's. we just started carrying the 21 WB's.

I'm scared to talk about 2014's right now. We have so many pretty 2013's available. ha
Old    Ryan (Wakesounds)      Join Date: May 2011       05-10-2013, 10:05 AM Reply   
Very classic looking, Looks good for the b52. I'm looking forward to seeing the tomcat designs tho!
Old    Ryan (Wakesounds)      Join Date: May 2011       05-10-2013, 10:27 AM Reply   
Nice boat but lets keep this thread about the 2014's please. I think we have all seen many of the 13's already. If people are wanting something to ride behind this year then they will buy...this year with the 2013's.
Old    Craig Emerton (craigtxmc)      Join Date: Oct 2008       05-10-2013, 10:32 AM Reply   
10-4
Old    Chattwake (chattwake)      Join Date: Jan 2010       05-10-2013, 1:40 PM Reply   
Yeah, I know this thread is about '14 mb's, but have you considered a '13 mb?
Old    Craig Emerton (craigtxmc)      Join Date: Oct 2008       05-10-2013, 1:50 PM Reply   
Come on now... You guys are tough man. Somebody mentioned a 21WB so i posted pics of the ones we got today.
Then I said 10-4, and Chatt had to dog pile.

No more pics from me. I retire.
Old    Bryce Pool (bryce2320)      Join Date: May 2012       05-10-2013, 2:24 PM Reply   
Shoes on in the boat
Old    Craig Emerton (craigtxmc)      Join Date: Oct 2008       05-10-2013, 2:43 PM Reply   
That's MB upholstery man. Shoes can't harm that stuff.
Old    Steve (steveo142)      Join Date: Dec 2012       05-10-2013, 3:01 PM Reply   
I think my dealer is just telling me what he is being told by MB regarding the changes for 2014 on the 21' B52 TWB. The dealer knows I am ordering a 2014 this winter so its not like he is pushing for me to buy a 2013. I just want to be able to start designing the boat.
Old    Mitch (wakemitch)      Join Date: Jun 2005       05-10-2013, 3:52 PM Reply   
That has got to be rough just getting 2013 boats in today, yet customers are already thinking it's outdated. yikes.

I think that's why dealers and manufacturers like to keep that kind of stuff private until it's ready.
Old    Steve (steveo142)      Join Date: Dec 2012       05-10-2013, 4:04 PM Reply   
Im waiting for the 14 because I just paid my truck off and I am paying my bike off so besides my house, the boat will be my only bill. So ordering this winter..
Old    Darren Yearsley (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       05-10-2013, 4:16 PM Reply   
Keep posting pics Craig, I love looking at your creations and I thought the pics weren't out of place at all.
Old    E (22vdrive)      Join Date: Apr 2010       05-10-2013, 5:41 PM Reply   
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Keep posting pics Craig, I love looking at your creations and I thought the pics weren't out of place at all.
X2 please post on Craig!
Old    Ryan (Wakesounds)      Join Date: May 2011       05-10-2013, 7:06 PM Reply   
I'm with Steve, I can't buy a boat this year no matter what they came out with. I just can't swing it till.maybe winter. No offense to people selling the 13's, its just not what I'm gonna end up buying. I have no issues with a 2013 pictures, they are awesome boats but I just can't afford them at the moment. Ill open a 2013 picture thread for everyone to post their new boats there! Thanks
Old    Steve (steveo142)      Join Date: Dec 2012       05-10-2013, 7:14 PM Reply   
^^^^
Amen, I still love looking at the 13's
Old    Shawndoggy (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       05-10-2013, 9:05 PM Reply   
that mostly white one is b.e.a.u.t.i.f.u.l. love it. Build that in a 23!
Old    Ryan (Wakesounds)      Join Date: May 2011       05-29-2013, 12:29 PM Reply   
Summer seasons approaching and new stuff is coming out,any new updates or details on the new mb's? Feel free to pm me if its still a hush hush thing.
Old    Steve (steveo142)      Join Date: Dec 2012       06-01-2013, 4:11 PM Reply   
still waiting myself.
Old    Brett (wka40)      Join Date: Aug 2013       08-12-2013, 4:08 PM Reply   
check out the picture
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Old    Ryan (Wakesounds)      Join Date: May 2011       08-12-2013, 4:16 PM Reply   
Nice! You have any more shots?
Old    Darren Yearsley (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-12-2013, 5:50 PM Reply   
Just a heads up, half the windscreen has fallen off.
Old    R{west Side Ryder} W (rmotoxxx711)      Join Date: Oct 2008       08-12-2013, 7:22 PM Reply   
I've been on multiple B52s 2011 and newer and the only good things about em are:
- bad ass wake (if you've never weighted one right you haven't seen its tru potential)
- drives really easy (weighted too)
- awesome interior design
- looks bad ass
- you can buy two of these for the price of one... Well you know
- oh and did I mention the wake is killer
- and they look bad ass

... Other than that nothin good about em hahaha
Old    RB (boardman74)      Join Date: Jul 2012       08-12-2013, 7:57 PM Reply   
Is it just me or does the "V" of the bow not go all the way to the front?

We don't have any MB's here in the Midwest so all I keep hearing about is how good they are for how little money. Be interested to see them. What is cheap? Cheaper than an Axis? Cheaper than a Tige R20 or Mommba 20V? We talking mid 30's?

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