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Old    Van Cleef (ViejoVanCleef)      Join Date: Apr 2013       04-23-2013, 10:30 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by shawndoggy View Post
Does the Vandal have an english accent in real life like that sons of anarchy guy? Dang man I am glad you posted this because I've totally fallen for his gangstar persona, you are right.
As long as you understand that its entertainment, then you are free to feel whatever emotions you may come across in the process .
Old    Van Cleef (ViejoVanCleef)      Join Date: Apr 2013       04-23-2013, 10:41 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by WakeDirt View Post
Reef stated 'You create a fictional individual and make the public believe that its real'
-Really Bro? Come on...thats the route you're going with it? We are just musically challenged dults that dont understand the musical genius behind this dude? Ok......
I cant teach you how to be cool. I can only show you the door. You have to walk in, all by yourself.
Old     (WakeDirt)      Join Date: Jun 2011       04-23-2013, 11:20 PM Reply   
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I cant teach you how to be cool. I can only show you the door. You have to walk in, all by yourself.
I'm guessing you're a die hard Creed guy. In the cool department you must be a pro.

Last edited by WakeDirt; 04-23-2013 at 11:22 PM.
Old    Van Cleef (ViejoVanCleef)      Join Date: Apr 2013       04-23-2013, 11:33 PM Reply   
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I'm guessing you're a die hard Creed guy. In the cool department you must be a pro.
I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
Lifes Good. Try to Enjoy it,
Old     (WakeDirt)      Join Date: Jun 2011       04-23-2013, 11:36 PM Reply   
This thread has made me laugh more than once....your posts are included. It's odd how many brand new profiles, along with first posts are on this thread....almost creepy.
Old    English (kristian)      Join Date: Nov 2002       04-24-2013, 5:41 AM Reply   
Wasn't going to comment but this thread has made me laugh. I don't see any reason against the first thread being deleted, wasn't really "family friendly".

And Van Cleef....... I have almost 2 decades of experience in the entertainment business working with some of the biggest entertainment establishments in the world, and let me tell you, you're a little off base
Old    David (Luker)      Join Date: Feb 2010       04-24-2013, 9:05 AM Reply   
Wakeworld = Westside4life .... which means you don't bad mouth the king! #Vandall
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Old    Steven Hahn (solo)      Join Date: Oct 2001       04-24-2013, 9:26 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by ViejoVanCleef View Post
What do you say we look at things in a little different perspective. We all have the immediate instinct to judge someone when we see something we don't like, or approve of right? How many of us judgmental individuals are in the entertainment industry, and understand how it works? My guess is very few, if any at all.
Now, lets take the TV show, "Sons Of Anarchy" for example. Really heavy show. Right? Lots of bad language, sex, and violence. "Jax Teller", is the main character along with others who deal guns, kill people, blackmail individuals, make porn, racketeer etc. These guys are as nasty as they come, yet America loves them right? Why? Because its just a television show, and what they do on the show, isn't real life.! In real life, these guys are actors, parents, sporting enthusiasts, etc. They grocery shop, go to the park, take their kids to school, hug their mom and dad, and work in their garden, just like you and I. When Jax Teller is at home, he's not Jax Teller. He's Charlie Hunnam. He goes to work in the entertainment industry, and becomes Jax Teller, The Biker.!
Now picture Charlie Hunnam as an actor in a show that you didn't like. Say he played a slime ball rapist or child molester, and the show was not your cup of tea. You probably wouldn't be a fan of that show right? You would say, "this is crap, that guy sucks" etc.!
Now lets move on to the topic of Randall Harris. Randall Harris is a talented individual. He's a successful athlete who has gained popularity among a particular genre of people, wakeboarders. When held accountable to his wakeboarding, he is nothing but spectacular in your eyes. He is extremely entertaining to watch and he leaves you in awe when he is done doing what he does on the water. As an entertainer, Randall has other enthusiasms as well. He's not only an athlete, but a musician. Now the music entertainment industry is completely different than the wakeboarding entertainment industry. In the music industry, like television and movies, you play a character and play a role. You create a fictional individual and make the public believe that its real. Its entertainment to those who enjoy it, and to those who don't, they have the option of changing the channel and watching something else which suits their particular desires.
Randall didn't make a rap video, so wakeboarders could enjoy it. He made it ,to entertain individuals who enjoy that style of entertainment. People who like Rap.!
To get to the point, when you are musical entertainer, your time on stage, and in videos, is a portrayal of a fictional character you have created for entertainment purposes. Another solid example would be Ozzy Osbourne. He would apparently bite the heads off of birds, and kill puppies on stage but he's actually just a family man. If you don't like what Randall does with his musical entertainment, you don't have to, but if you make the ignorant mistake of co mingling his real person character, with his fictional one, it only makes you seem like someone who cant decipher the difference.
El Viejo Van Cleef signing off.
That was my whole point. I have been a part of this industry for 13 years now. A lot of people were making assumptions about his character. While his video, which I have not seen, may have offended wakeboarders, it was not intended for our industry. While assuming a role in a fictional music video may have not been to your liking, it doesn't change the nature of Randall's character. He's an incredible person. The keyboard cowboys on this site never change. Keep up the good work, at the very least it's entertaining...
Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       04-24-2013, 9:36 AM Reply   
Great post, Viejo.
Old    Shawndoggy (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       04-24-2013, 9:38 AM Reply   
so that was sort of like a flight of the concords kinda thing? It just didn't feel like parody to me... seems like they really "meant" it.

And if they really meant it, even if it's all "just acting", isn't there some hazard in doing so? From the backlash that ted danson got dressing up in blackface at woopie's frier's club roast to the "never go full retard" admonition in Tropic Thunder, I think it's pretty clear that the entertainment consuming public will, for right or wrong, judge "entertainers" based on their work.

FFS do none of you remember the backlash Ice-T got from "Cop Killer?" But hey, it turned out OK for Ice, eventually. Maybe there'll be a law n order franchise for RH in another couple decades.
Old     (WakeDirt)      Join Date: Jun 2011       04-24-2013, 10:09 AM Reply   
Solo, I think more people were:
A. Laughing at the toolishness of the video.
B. Curious why was removed from WW.
C. Wondering why HE REMOVED the video from youtube. If in fact it were a parody

D: I have an alternate link to the video, but dont want to get arrested for sharring it.
- I dont think he is a bad person, nor has he offended me in any way. I'm just a normal guy that is amazed at the Super Try Hard Mode theses dudes are in. I'm from Cali, and find true humor in this.

-I would post it in the 2013 playlist thread, along with some of the other "potty mouthed" songs that are listed, but I think that would be pushing it and you guys would see the end of wakdirt on WW

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Old    Justin Harrelson (skiboarder)      Join Date: Oct 2006       04-24-2013, 10:33 AM Reply   
I understand rap music (don't laugh). If rappers did half of what they claim as flagrantly as they claim, most would be in jail for life. It is an art form and particular styles glamorize drugs, sex and violence. You can rap about "Thug Life" without being a thug. Look at TuPac. He was a formally trained dancer not a gun toting gangster. I don't have a problem with white kids rapping about the hard life and honestly not all of the rhymes were half-bad.

The problem is that Randall has been hocking boards and boats from the high road for a while now and people have been swallowing it hook, line and sinker. You can't profit from your testimony and also profit from glamorizing a life of sin. I am happy to pretend (because I really don't know differently) that the gun, purple drank and ski mask was an act, but it is in direct conflict with the "firey-pheonix raised from the ashes" mythology his second go-round (or third) has been based on.
Old    Steven Hahn (solo)      Join Date: Oct 2001       04-24-2013, 10:46 AM Reply   
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Solo, I think more people were:
A. Laughing at the toolishness of the video.
B. Curious why was removed from WW.
C. Wondering why HE REMOVED the video from youtube. If in fact it were a parody

D: I have an alternate link to the video, but dont want to get arrested for sharring it.
- I dont think he is a bad person, nor has he offended me in any way. I'm just a normal guy that is amazed at the Super Try Hard Mode theses dudes are in. I'm from Cali, and find true humor in this.

-I would post it in the 2013 playlist thread, along with some of the other "potty mouthed" songs that are listed, but I think that would be pushing it and you guys would see the end of wakdirt on WW
A. I can understand people not liking the video or it's content.
B. Dave had every right to delete a post if it had offensive language in it.
C. The video was not posted by him or taken down by him.
D. I'd still like to see it.
Old    Stuart (Dustfarter)      Join Date: Jun 2010       04-24-2013, 11:06 AM Reply   
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Solo, I think more people were:
A. Laughing at the toolishness of the video.
B. Curious why was removed from WW.
C. Wondering why HE REMOVED the video from youtube. If in fact it were a parody
Exactly! Considering that it was taken down he obviously cares what the wake boarders think....
Old    Stuart (Dustfarter)      Join Date: Jun 2010       04-24-2013, 11:14 AM Reply   
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The problem is that Randall has been hocking boards and boats from the high road for a while now and people have been swallowing it hook, line and sinker. You can't profit from your testimony and also profit from glamorizing a life of sin. I am happy to pretend (because I really don't know differently) that the gun, purple drank and ski mask was an act, but it is in direct conflict with the "firey-pheonix raised from the ashes" mythology his second go-round (or third) has been based on.
This is so true. I've always found the hypocrisy of it to be super annoying.

Solo. I can't help but feel that you're perhaps a little biased as you have to buddy up to these guys to gain shooting access.
While he may well be a great guy one on one we don't know that thus are amused/ judging him on his public persona.

Wakeboarding is a conservative family sport. Sure there are a bunch of kids that would look up to and try to emulate this kind of behavior.
The problem is the the significant bills that come along with the sport are almost always taken care of by more conservative middle aged parents. People who likely didn't behave this way and are thus successful enough to pay the said large bills.
No one wants their kid to look up to or act the way RH is currently behaving. That's why this is all relevant and should not have been removed.
Old    Steven Hahn (solo)      Join Date: Oct 2001       04-24-2013, 11:28 AM Reply   
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This is so true. I've always found the hypocrisy of it to be super annoying.

Solo. I can't help but feel that you're perhaps a little biased as you have to buddy up to these guys to gain shooting access.
While he may well be a great guy one on one we don't know that thus are amused/ judging him on his public persona.

Wakeboarding is a conservative family sport. Sure there are a bunch of kids that would look up to and try to emulate this kind of behavior.
The problem is the the significant bills that come along with the sport are almost always taken care of by more conservative middle aged parents. People who likely didn't behave this way and are thus successful enough to pay the said large bills.
No one wants their kid to look up to or act the way RH is currently behaving. That's why this is all relevant and should not have been removed.
First of all, after working in this industry for over a decade, I don't buddy up with people to gain access to them. I choose to call Randall my friend because of the support I've gotten from him and his family over the years. I agree that wakeboarding is a conservative family sport. It always has been. The video was not posted by him nor taken down by him. As a parent myself I respect your opinion but I also teach my children not to judge a book by it's cover.
Old    SCBrips (scbrips)      Join Date: Mar 2006       04-24-2013, 12:26 PM Reply   
Live by the gun, die by the gun.
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Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       04-24-2013, 12:54 PM Reply   
This thread is great. we have not had an all out battle rooooooooyyyyyyalllll in a bit!

I dont know who said it but I second the notion! That video was not made for wakeboard fans. Its was made for Rap fans. I have a good buddy from Minnesota who has made pretty bigt name for himself in the rap game -- (think "god loves ugly.") At any rate, he would be the first to tell you that 75% of rap is made up, taking on a persona just like an actor does in a role.

enough from me, back to my pop corn! I still got mad respect for randall, hell I still got mad respect for THE SCUD Shaprio. Lets not make him the Michael Vick of wakeboarding!
Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       04-24-2013, 1:15 PM Reply   
Are you saying that you're friends with Atmosphere? Because that's one hell of a name drop, Andy! :-)
Old    Jason Smith (snowslider76)      Join Date: Mar 2002       04-24-2013, 2:14 PM Reply   
Duh everyone in Minnesota is friends with Slug
Old    Jason Smith (snowslider76)      Join Date: Mar 2002       04-24-2013, 2:15 PM Reply   
And a pro wrestler/governor/navy seal/actor
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       04-24-2013, 2:27 PM Reply   
And Prince!
Old    Shawndoggy (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       04-24-2013, 2:46 PM Reply   
but what about Morris Day?
Old    Eubanks (eubanks01)      Join Date: Jun 2001       04-24-2013, 2:54 PM Reply   
I love the logic "don't judge or draw conclusions about Randall based on this video"! Sure, you should never associate a person and/or their character based on their own words, actions, or decisions. That would be judging a book by its cover.

So while we are at it, let's make sure we don't judge the Boston bombers as terroists, killers, or anything else negative as they might be great guys that just had a momentary lapse in judgment. We can't judge them based off of one day's events.
Old    Mase (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       04-24-2013, 3:52 PM Reply   
I think people are more upset than Randall has done so much to rehab his life and image and separate himself from drugs and the lifestyle he used to lead and then out of nowhere the guy that was preaching to kids Jesus is talking about doing opiates and being demonically possessed... He seemed like a great guy when I met him and we all have our flaws and make mistakes, that being said I hope he just was trying to create a rap persona and is not back on drugs.
Old    Mase (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       04-24-2013, 3:53 PM Reply   
*That... I cannot spell today
Old     (pprior)      Join Date: Jan 2012       04-24-2013, 4:05 PM Reply   
The comments on the youtube video were about 90% positive vs. 10% negative before it was taken down. So if we all are supposed to understand that a rap "persona" is an act, and the video was received positively by those that seem to enjoy such "personas" then again, why did he take it down?
Old    Nick Schrein (wakeboardern1)      Join Date: Aug 2007       04-24-2013, 4:12 PM Reply   
Why is it that everyone here seems to have such a hard idea with the concept that music videos do not equal real life? The artists and people in them act out a part in said music video. It is on a completely different level from your absurdly over the top remarks Eubanks.

This music video was made for rap fans, not wakeboarders. Was it a good video? No, not really. But I don't particularly care for most rap videos, so maybe in that culture it was decent.

But based on your guys' logic, Calvin Harris and Ellie Goulding are a couple;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtKZKl7Bgu0

Gorillaz endorse a girl in a mask shooting down planes and exploring an ocean full of trippy jellyfish;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04mfKJWDSzI

and Chevelle is, whatever this relatively unrelated video means

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQeHSC-kwlk

I mean come on. They made a music video that matches to the lyrics, Randall Harris was involved. Boo freaking hoo. Get over it. It was a crappy video, Dave pulled the thread down after the primary author of the video pulled it down on YouTube The thread became irrelevant and it was turning into a flame war over content that was not available anymore. Half of you haven't even seen the video and you're speculating about Randy Harris abusing cough syrup. COME ON. Normally threads like this would get nuked as well (they're technically against the board's policies, or at least the ones listed in the previous iteration of WakeWorld) but Dave is clearly willing to leave it open for discussion.

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Those are the rules. Deal with it. If you need to, you can call the wahmbulance, the number is 9-wah-wah. I'm sure they can help you with your overt fears of censorship on a privately owned forum.
Old    Evan Miller (mtownrydr)      Join Date: Apr 2008       04-24-2013, 6:55 PM Reply   
Man Vandall spits so hard hes got death on his breath dawg...dude's verse sounded like some garbage the fat dude from insane clown possee would rap about. You can really tell he thought it was seriously nice too was def not a joke to him. I just find it funny in the video the dude's want to display a complete Don't give a F attitude then the video gets made private when the wrong people start watching it. That's what is fake and fictional to me. I thought he was smarter than that isn't he like 30 something years old? Maybe the purp sizzurp is to blame??
Old    Henry Gates (captain_vilfo)      Join Date: Apr 2007       04-24-2013, 7:21 PM Reply   
Eubanks I didn't know making a bomb and strategically placing it in a crowded public event was a just considered a "momentary lapse of judgement"
Old    Henry Gates (captain_vilfo)      Join Date: Apr 2007       04-24-2013, 7:22 PM Reply   
That literally might be the most retarded post I have ever read on wakeworld and I've been trolling the discussion section for about 6 years.
Old    Eubanks (eubanks01)      Join Date: Jun 2001       04-24-2013, 7:48 PM Reply   
Henry - It is called an analogy. Yes, an extreme one to iterate a point. The point of how silly I think it is that some people say that this video Randall participated in is not a reflection on him or his character. How can it not be who he is when he is volunteering to drop some questionable lyrics, flip the bird, and point a gun at his head? As others have said, I don't think people would care much if it weren't for what and who he claims to represent. Sorry I had to explain my point in greater detail for you.
Old    Delta Force (wakebordr11)      Join Date: May 2001       04-24-2013, 7:50 PM Reply   
I realize Eubanks was being sarcastic and making a dumbf*ck analogy, but that still is a retarded thing to say, and very ill-timed and insensitive.

I noticed his favorite rider is his wife.... who also happens to be my favorite rider
Old    Eubanks (eubanks01)      Join Date: Jun 2001       04-24-2013, 8:00 PM Reply   
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I noticed his favorite rider is his wife.... who also happens to be my favorite rider
Wow buddy. My apologies I hurt your feelings. That was not my intention.

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Old    Henry Gates (captain_vilfo)      Join Date: Apr 2007       04-24-2013, 8:17 PM Reply   
Lmaoooooooo
Old    Alek Emery (acerock88)      Join Date: May 2008       04-24-2013, 9:14 PM Reply   
Best. Thread. Ever. I have honestly had the biggest laughs reading through this.
Old    Lee Griffith (LeeG23)      Join Date: Feb 2013       04-24-2013, 10:22 PM Reply   
I've trolled this site for yrs. gotta say this is the best post ever! I literally read every Lon post. This beats that for me

I'm very rational guy so can see both sides of the argument. Plz keep it coming better than anything on TV!
Old    Nick Kondylas (homedawg678)      Join Date: Jan 2007       04-24-2013, 10:25 PM Reply   
I don't know about you guys but actual wakeboarding excites me more than this crap
Old    Alek Emery (acerock88)      Join Date: May 2008       04-24-2013, 10:53 PM Reply   
It is still too cold to board where I live. So this is the next best wakeboarding related entertainment available now haha.
Old     (WakeDirt)      Join Date: Jun 2011       04-24-2013, 11:41 PM Reply   
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I've trolled this site for yrs. gotta say this is the best post ever! I literally read every Lon post. This beats that for me

I'm very rational guy so can see both sides of the argument. Plz keep it coming better than anything on TV!
I wish for nothing more than LON's opinion on this video....90% sure he is actually cameoed in it.
Old    Erik Jernberg (juniorhawk)      Join Date: Jul 2004       04-25-2013, 8:40 AM Reply   
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D: I have an alternate link to the video, but dont want to get arrested for sharring it.
- I dont think he is a bad person, nor has he offended me in any way. I'm just a normal guy that is amazed at the Super Try Hard Mode theses dudes are in. I'm from Cali, and find true humor in this.
Spill it. I'll make an edit of it and beep curse words out.

Also, wow "Super Try Hard Mode" is a great term. I had never heard that before and I love it.
There are other riders I would say that term applies to though. Wow.
Old    L W (501s)      Join Date: Feb 2010       04-25-2013, 10:05 AM Reply   
Were any of them on a really bad TV show? LOL. That's what I think when I hear "Super Try Hard".

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Spill it. I'll make an edit of it and beep curse words out.

Also, wow "Super Try Hard Mode" is a great term. I had never heard that before and I love it.
There are other riders I would say that term applies to though. Wow.
Old     (WakeDirt)      Join Date: Jun 2011       04-25-2013, 10:27 AM Reply   
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Spill it. I'll make an edit of it and beep curse words out.

Also, wow "Super Try Hard Mode" is a great term. I had never heard that before and I love it.
There are other riders I would say that term applies to though. Wow.
So "hypothetically" If someone were to 1: Edit the cuss words, and 2: Edit the gun to the guys head...it would be ok to repost? There is some drinking in the video, but I have seen many of threads with drinking ie. Ice Luge pouring booze down people's gullets.....
Old    Steven Hahn (solo)      Join Date: Oct 2001       04-25-2013, 11:04 AM Reply   
Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       04-25-2013, 11:19 AM Reply   
Amazing. WWers need something new to debate and whine about so that this thread can finally die.
Old    Erik Jernberg (juniorhawk)      Join Date: Jul 2004       04-25-2013, 11:28 AM Reply   
TK & Junedocc is the name to google, there is a mixtape on datpiff:
http://www.datpiff.com/JUNEDOCC-X-TK...pe.394827.html
Old    Erik Jernberg (juniorhawk)      Join Date: Jul 2004       04-25-2013, 11:39 AM Reply   
Can I link to a google search that has the video as a result? So that it's not an embedded thing?

This is frigging ridiculous. Whatever.

Can I link to a tumblr page that links to a tinyurl that links to the video? There is an extended cut and MAAAAN... It's fire.
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So "hypothetically" If someone were to 1: Edit the cuss words, and 2: Edit the gun to the guys head...it would be ok to repost? There is some drinking in the video, but I have seen many of threads with drinking ie. Ice Luge pouring booze down people's gullets.....
There is too much to edit out and I don't want to commit account suicide on here but in the extended thing there is a gold mine. Shotgun in it and stuff. Ugh.

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Old     (WakeDirt)      Join Date: Jun 2011       04-25-2013, 12:32 PM Reply   
I knew you would enjoy the editor's cut
Old    Tracktor (tracktor)      Join Date: Sep 2005       04-25-2013, 12:42 PM Reply   
I watched the vid and thought it was amusing. Mostly because, as a fan of hip-hop, it wasn't very good. That said, I am a huge Swollen Members fan and many of their early videos are pretty bad also................I have always found it amusing that actors get a pass on personas but musicians do not. Maybe because music hits us closer to the heart?.................
Old    Wacko Jacko (melan_mobe)      Join Date: Mar 2005       04-25-2013, 12:48 PM Reply   
Interesting Youtube channel, is that Steve Wahlman at 7:35 in the Por Vida one? Sure looks like him.
Old     (pprior)      Join Date: Jan 2012       04-25-2013, 5:21 PM Reply   
Old    Steven Hahn (solo)      Join Date: Oct 2001       04-25-2013, 6:02 PM Reply   
Hate! Hate! Hate! Hate!

I hate you, I hate you and I especially hate you!

I miss Dave Chapel.... LOL!

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Old    Jay Simmo (JayManAR)      Join Date: Dec 2012       04-25-2013, 6:11 PM Reply   
You had me at "huge swollen member."
Old    DeeCee (jaybee)      Join Date: Aug 2007       04-26-2013, 5:25 PM Reply   
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..I have always found it amusing that actors get a pass on personas but musicians do not. .
I don't know about other genres but hip hop was not created for a bunch of actors to pretend how hardcore they are. We have NWA (yeah some of them really lived that life but we all know DRE for sure didn't) to thank for that. My biggest problem with this video is it just plain embarrassing for hip hop and makes it look as ignorant as the national media displays it. Sad thing is Randall is my favorite rider due to the fact I really admired the way he turned his life around and for how huge he goes.
Old    Nick Kondylas (homedawg678)      Join Date: Jan 2007       04-26-2013, 6:50 PM Reply   
Do people think someone like Rick Ross actually has however many kilos of coke in his beamer? ....eh im gonna say no
Old    Chase Tillett (tn_rider)      Join Date: Dec 2009       04-27-2013, 1:25 AM Reply   
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Do people think someone like Rick Ross actually has however many kilos of coke in his beamer? ....eh im gonna say no
Ehh I'm gonna have to disagree lol. Last year Rick Ross was supposed to do a show in Memphis Tennessee. Before his plane landed they had to cancel she show because he was so effed up he was having seizures. He may not have kilos lol but I guarantee he has something LOL.
Old    Henry Gates (captain_vilfo)      Join Date: Apr 2007       04-27-2013, 9:19 AM Reply   
@tn_rider yeah he's got diabetes
Old    Ben Ax (hawkeye7708)      Join Date: Feb 2007       04-27-2013, 10:39 AM Reply   
How I feel reading this thread... lol
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Old    Josh M (dvsone79)      Join Date: Dec 2012       04-27-2013, 11:04 AM Reply   
Now I really want to see the video!
Old    Mike (slowwwflowww)      Join Date: Mar 2011       04-27-2013, 6:20 PM Reply   
And now Rick Ross has to worry about the real gansters he offended,(Deciples)
Old    alan plotz (alanp)      Join Date: Apr 2001       04-27-2013, 6:47 PM Reply   
van whatever= 4 posts, all on this thread= too ashamed to really say who you are, good job.

randall, valla(misspelled) con dios,= irrelevant to the sport at this point. yes yes i know, at 85 feet and 46 mph doing BIG backside 180's into the flats he's god but at life he's a little more earthly.

its a shame discussion boards have to censor his activities b/c he doesnt have the common sense to use good taste.
Old    Tommy (Readyaimfire)      Join Date: Jun 2012       04-28-2013, 12:10 AM Reply   
Good Taste to whom? I personally didn't find it offensive. I don't see the need pro wakeboarders to be saints. I don't hear anyone objecting to BroStock, which is basically a self admitted alcohol fueled double up contest/party. I've seen photos and videos of many under age pro riders at said event holding beverages with the word "not beer" posted over them, yet there is no thread condemning these guys for there actions. So if they posted a black censorship bar reading "not a gun" over the gun in the video, would that be acceptable? Just a thought.
Old    Nick Kondylas (homedawg678)      Join Date: Jan 2007       04-28-2013, 2:07 PM Reply   
I couldn't find the full song but back when Blue Octane did a whole album featuring pro wakeboarders

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXxaBWl0o_M

this girl is talking over it but they fade back in to Randall's part at :56, I kinda liked it personally, the full song is on iTunes

I guess I appreciate it more because he plays more on his wakeboard persona than some stupid gangster one like in the video
Old    Bizzuck (bizzuck)      Join Date: Nov 2005       04-28-2013, 5:53 PM Reply   
My favorite part of this entire thread are all of the fan boys (yes, you too Solo) suggesting that it is immoral to dislike or comment on a crappy rap video because the idiot with the gun to his head is an excellent wakeboarder. Also amusing is the 'nobody makes you watch it' line. You people have caught one too many toe edges.

A close second is Dave. Canning a WW thread for those stated reasons should win him an award. Convincing some of you idiots that it is unrelated to those entities in the banners should win him something else.... maybe a black cooler that keeps ice "not wet" for a long time?

The worst part of this thread are those of you who feel it necessary to say, in a whiny little five year old voice, "it's Dave's site! he can do whatever he wants! loogit the policy statement *link*" Seriously... that's next level nerd game.
Old    David Williams (wakeworld)      Join Date: Jan 1997       04-28-2013, 6:20 PM Reply   
I'm nerdy!
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Old    David Williams (wakeworld)      Join Date: Jan 1997       04-28-2013, 10:29 PM Reply   
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A close second is Dave. Canning a WW thread for those stated reasons should win him an award. Convincing some of you idiots that it is unrelated to those entities in the banners should win him something else.... maybe a black cooler that keeps ice "not wet" for a long time?
Since you are so knowledgeable about how I (err...my sponsors) run WakeWorld, perhaps you can enlighten us on why I have allowed this thread to continue.
Old    Bizzuck (bizzuck)      Join Date: Nov 2005       04-29-2013, 7:51 AM Reply   
Sure thing, Dave. The three most obvious resasons are:

1. Now that the video is no longer embedded it doesn't really matter. The two threads are apples and oranges.

2. Perhaps you were concerned about losing some remaining credibility? Nah... that can't be it. Seeing how the first thread was deleted for language and the title of this thread is WTF Wakeworld. Silly me.

3. This thread contains more "VANDALL IS AWESOME" than the last thread.
Old    David Williams (wakeworld)      Join Date: Jan 1997       04-29-2013, 8:04 AM Reply   
Dammit, you got me all figured out!! 15 Years of integrity down the tubes. Well, we had a good run, but I guess I knew eventually some genius would crack the code. I think I'm gonna start a golf website and see if I can pull the wool over everybody's eyes for another 15 years.

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Old    Antbug (antbug)      Join Date: Jul 2004       04-29-2013, 9:47 AM Reply   
Another reminder of why I stopped coming to this site.......
Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       04-29-2013, 11:03 AM Reply   
Can we implement a new policy where we can vote to kick off members that bitch and whine and suck?
Old    Paul (psudy)      Join Date: Dec 2003       04-29-2013, 11:13 AM Reply   
I agree. I have been a member here since 2001 and it seems lately there are new guys that drag the entire site down.
Old     (JetRanger)      Join Date: Feb 2013       04-29-2013, 11:17 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by antbug View Post
Another reminder of why I stopped coming to this site.......
You stopped coming to this site?
Old     (JetRanger)      Join Date: Feb 2013       04-29-2013, 11:56 AM Reply   
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Can we implement a new policy where we can vote to kick off members that bitch and whine and suck?
You know what doesn't suck? Jet Rangers.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_206
Old    "G" (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       04-29-2013, 12:44 PM Reply   
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Can we implement a new policy where we can vote to kick off members that bitch and whine and suck?
I agree. LET THE BANNING BEIGIN!
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Old    Hate2party (slipknot)      Join Date: Aug 2001       04-29-2013, 1:10 PM Reply   
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Can we implement a new policy where we can vote to kick off members that bitch and whine and suck?
I agree, but does the owner? I can think of a few who would go today
Old    David Williams (wakeworld)      Join Date: Jan 1997       04-29-2013, 3:23 PM Reply   
No, I don't mind whining and/or a good healthy discussion as long as it abides by the rules. It's pretty rare, but occasionally I boot somebody just because they don't contribute anything but negativity. The thing that has always amazed me about this forum is that the quality of members is so high that most negativity and the majority of douchy posters are flushed out pretty quickly. This discussion board is an amazingly efficient machine!
Old     (simplej)      Join Date: Sep 2011       04-29-2013, 3:47 PM Reply   
Until an xstar vs. g23 thread or tige vs Malibu thread shows up.
Old    David Williams (wakeworld)      Join Date: Jan 1997       04-29-2013, 4:04 PM Reply   
^^^Would you mind explaining what that means??
Old     (simplej)      Join Date: Sep 2011       04-29-2013, 4:08 PM Reply   
The claws tend to make their way out in those threads, that's all!

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