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Old    Dustin Nell (dnell)      Join Date: Oct 2011       10-18-2012, 10:38 AM Reply   
I take delivery of my 2013 F21 Friday night. MB out did themselves on this one! Pics to be posted Saturday. If you think you have seen mb's finest, oh buddy!
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Old    D.F.T.R. Josh (downfortheride)      Join Date: Jun 2005       10-18-2012, 11:10 AM Reply   
Alright I wont post another pic of your boat... Share that ****!
Old    Diggs (pdxWAKE) (tyler97217)      Join Date: Aug 2004       10-18-2012, 11:15 AM Reply   
You only got a 2013. My 2014 will be here next week. Ha ha... totally kidding.
Congrats and look forward to seeing pics.
Old    Dustin Nell (dnell)      Join Date: Oct 2011       10-18-2012, 11:46 AM Reply   
Diggs, that's funny!
Old    MICAH HARPER (MICAH_HARPER)      Join Date: Apr 2010       10-18-2012, 1:50 PM Reply   
hey quit teasing...let us see that bass boat...lol...JK...WE NEED MORE PIC
Old    Rob (geistwatersportscom)      Join Date: Dec 2006       10-18-2012, 2:17 PM Reply   
Can't wait to see these pics Dnell!
Old    DC (durty_curt)      Join Date: Apr 2008       10-18-2012, 2:42 PM Reply   
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Alright I wont post another pic of your boat... Share that ****!
Where are these pics?? I'm too eager!!
Old    Dustin Nell (dnell)      Join Date: Oct 2011       10-18-2012, 3:06 PM Reply   
Well since dftr all ready posted this ill share it as well.
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Old    D.F.T.R. Josh (downfortheride)      Join Date: Jun 2005       10-18-2012, 3:18 PM Reply   
AND it begins... I can't wait to see this MB in person!
Old    Darren Yearsley (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-18-2012, 3:28 PM Reply   
Any changes for 2013. Metal flake looks bad arse
Old    Victor Imondi (imondi)      Join Date: Aug 2010       10-18-2012, 4:24 PM Reply   
Soo stoked to ride that thing!!
Old    KEVIN (kko13)      Join Date: Jul 2006       10-18-2012, 4:31 PM Reply   
Ok it has a transom and platform thanx. Metal flake too! Game changer!
Old     (Truekaotik)      Join Date: Jun 2012       10-18-2012, 6:08 PM Reply   
What's so special about this boat? Looks like a normal MB?
Old    D.F.T.R. Josh (downfortheride)      Join Date: Jun 2005       10-18-2012, 6:45 PM Reply   
Maybe it's just owners goggles... It's nothing different then any other new 2013 MB on the market right now. It's really just a color scheme that has never been done before. Has other companies done flake before yes... MB is adding a little flake at a time and this one got the full treatment. So stoked for my bro D Nell to get his new boat and have so much love for it. He's the person that introduced me to MB when I was in the market for a boat and walked away ordering and MB. I think it's awesome to have a ton of stoke when you know NO MB out there looks close to yours. So back to the question
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What's so special about this boat? Looks like a normal MB?
Nothing! Just pure stoke...
Old     (Truekaotik)      Join Date: Jun 2012       10-18-2012, 6:48 PM Reply   
Understand and support that aspect! Would like to see more pics then... Congrats!!
Old    Mark (biggator)      Join Date: Jul 2010       10-19-2012, 7:14 AM Reply   
Looks nice. I don't think I've ever even seen an MB on my lake - they just don't have them here (no dealer in this state).
Old    Bill Smeltzer (runin90lx)      Join Date: Sep 2009       10-19-2012, 7:23 AM Reply   
welcome to the MB world of badass boats! i just got my 2013 B53 23 about a month ago.
Old    Bruizza (bruizza)      Join Date: May 2009       10-19-2012, 7:48 AM Reply   
Looks like it is going to be pretty sick.
Old    Steven W (SteveW)      Join Date: Jun 2011       10-19-2012, 9:24 AM Reply   
Very nice. The cool thing is that once you get done boarding you can head over to the cove and drop a fishing line in the water and fit right in with the bass boats.
Old    Dustin Nell (dnell)      Join Date: Oct 2011       10-19-2012, 8:51 PM Reply   
2013 F21 tomcat loaded up. Metallic dark grey on white.
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Old    Dustin Nell (dnell)      Join Date: Oct 2011       10-19-2012, 8:52 PM Reply   
Pics
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Old    Dustin Nell (dnell)      Join Date: Oct 2011       10-19-2012, 8:53 PM Reply   
Pic
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Old    Dustin Nell (dnell)      Join Date: Oct 2011       10-19-2012, 8:54 PM Reply   
More pics
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Old    Dustin Nell (dnell)      Join Date: Oct 2011       10-19-2012, 8:55 PM Reply   
More
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Old    Dustin Nell (dnell)      Join Date: Oct 2011       10-19-2012, 8:57 PM Reply   
1 more
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Old    Dustin Nell (dnell)      Join Date: Oct 2011       10-19-2012, 8:58 PM Reply   
Ok 1 more this is the 410 indmar.
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Old    Dustin Nell (dnell)      Join Date: Oct 2011       10-19-2012, 8:59 PM Reply   
Last one
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Old    Rance Taylor (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       10-20-2012, 6:05 AM Reply   
Love the boat. Nice color scheme. Which motor is that?
Old    Dustin Nell (dnell)      Join Date: Oct 2011       10-20-2012, 6:57 AM Reply   
It's the 410 indmar
Old    L W (501s)      Join Date: Feb 2010       10-20-2012, 8:06 AM Reply   
That tower is a huge improvement over last years..... Boat looks great. Very classic interior.
Old    Dustin Nell (dnell)      Join Date: Oct 2011       10-20-2012, 8:14 AM Reply   
@ SteveW I may not be fishing for bass, but I can guarantee ill be trolling for something, lol.
Old    D.F.T.R. Josh (downfortheride)      Join Date: Jun 2005       10-20-2012, 8:35 AM Reply   
Right on D Nell, STOKED! Your interior is more like what I would choose, surprised you would go with that much white. I'm going to stash up some Boat Bling interior sauce when I come and get that interior dirty. Can't wait to see how the 410 with the ACME 2079 prop will be. Now let's see that boat unpacked and in the sunshine, or better yet let's get it on the water tomorrow!
Old    GD (diamonddad)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-20-2012, 9:37 AM Reply   
Nice - dig the dark grey metallic -- I wanted this for the "X" on my 2012 but it was not available.

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Old    Markj (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-20-2012, 9:59 AM Reply   
I thought that MB always used PCM. When did that change? Do you have a choice?
Old     (simplej)      Join Date: Sep 2011       10-20-2012, 10:29 AM Reply   
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@ SteveW I may not be fishing for bass, but I can guarantee ill be trolling for something, lol.
Just don't let em swallow the hook!
Old    Dustin Nell (dnell)      Join Date: Oct 2011       10-20-2012, 10:33 AM Reply   
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I thought that MB always used PCM. When did that change? Do you have a choice?
No, I think it's indmar now. My 2012 had the PCM.
Old    Markj (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-21-2012, 1:51 PM Reply   
Hmm. Their website says PCM.
Old    Ron (Nordicron)      Join Date: Aug 2011       10-21-2012, 3:03 PM Reply   
Guessing they are trying to keep their costs down by dropping PCM. Just think 2011-12's prob be more sought after and worth more than the 13's. I think it was not a good move by MB.
Old    Rance Taylor (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       10-21-2012, 3:51 PM Reply   
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Guessing they are trying to keep their costs down by dropping PCM. Just think 2011-12's prob be more sought after and worth more than the 13's. I think it was not a good move by MB.

Why do you say this? I have a '12 and it has the PCM, but have never heard this before. Hope it's true. I had an Indmar in my Axis and had no problems.
Old    Dustin Nell (dnell)      Join Date: Oct 2011       10-21-2012, 5:56 PM Reply   
So having a 2012 with the PCM 343 and using a 2013 with the indmar 343. My opinion is that they are both amazing engines! However I do think that the indmar has a bit more torque. It just seamed to get up and go quicker. I can't report on the indmar 410 as of yet, but when I do I'll make sure to wright something about it.
Old    Matt (MattieK27)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-21-2012, 9:32 PM Reply   
PCM historically has had a better marine package. (Water pump design and mounting methods are two examples) Indmar is no slouch though. I have always preferred PCM, but the Indmar in my new boat has impressed thus far.

I am guessing once MC went to Illmor, Indmar was heavily recruiting boat manufacturers to make up for the lost units. MB might have made the switch for financial reasons, passing the savings onto the customers. This is all speculative though.
Old    J D (jeff_mn)      Join Date: Jul 2009       10-22-2012, 5:30 AM Reply   
Love it..
Old    BTV (BTV)      Join Date: Jul 2010       10-22-2012, 6:53 AM Reply   
Awesome boat!
Hows the bimimi on new tower? Got any pics with it up?
Old    Mark (FunkyBunch)      Join Date: Jun 2011       10-22-2012, 7:08 AM Reply   
Not sure about the financials of the switch to Indmar for 13 but I did learn a few things about the switch none of which I can confirm yet. As I understand it one effect of the switch is that the new MB's are much quieter with the dual exhaust. Maybe Josh and Dustin can confirm that.
Old     (simplej)      Join Date: Sep 2011       10-22-2012, 7:42 AM Reply   
...?
Something that PCM touts is how much quieter they are than any other brand, my tige is wayyyyyyyy quieter than my buddy's x25 and star both with indmars and is ridiculously more quiet than my friends x25 with ilmor
Old    Mark (FunkyBunch)      Join Date: Jun 2011       10-22-2012, 8:05 AM Reply   
(simplej) That has always been my understanding as well.

Just something that I overheard nothing I have confirmed. I think Josh and Dustin could do this pretty easy.

From experience my Indmar is way quieter than any of the new Tige's I have been around. Could be just the Tige's I have been around but there is an RZ2 that I could swear had cutouts on it at my lake until I saw another one at a different part of my lake sound exactly the same basically sounded like a cigarette boat. That being said the Nautiques are really quite.

Something else that I have read about on the MBOwners site is the resonator and exahaust bypass on the MB's was to help combat this engine volume. I don't remember when this was implemented. There used to be some pics of this on the site but I can not find them right now.

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Old    Ron (Nordicron)      Join Date: Aug 2011       10-22-2012, 8:14 AM Reply   
Yeah I think MB had a good thing going with PCM. I think having a PCM is why many consider buying a tige. Don't the cheaper brands like moomba,axis,Sanger all feature indmar.
Old    Mark (FunkyBunch)      Join Date: Jun 2011       10-22-2012, 8:21 AM Reply   
Sanger uses Mercruisers, Axis and Mailibu I think are rebranded Indmars, and Supra and Moomba use Indmars.
Old    Tom (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       10-22-2012, 8:56 AM Reply   
I really like the new tower
Old    L W (501s)      Join Date: Feb 2010       10-22-2012, 9:06 AM Reply   
I had an Indmar 340 on My moomba for 4 years and 400 hours. Not a SINGLE issue. I have the Ilmor 5.7 on my X-30 and it has 85 hours and has been absolutley flawless. I will say that the Ilmor is a little louder/meaner sounding but I can honestly say I have noticed it puts out more power then my Indmar did. The Ilmor 5.7 pushes a 4800lb boat with 2500lbs of ballast no problem.
Old    D.F.T.R. Josh (downfortheride)      Join Date: Jun 2005       10-22-2012, 9:25 AM Reply   
As far as sound I thought the 2013 Indmar was louder than my 12' with the PCM. BUT we need to get both together to really test this! My 12' has a smaller upper hole/vent that I thought was to make it quieter but not sure it really does. Dustin is sure the 13' is quieter compared to his 12' that he just sold. My 12' has the turn down pipe and his 12' had the straight out pipe... Either or I have played with both engines but its hard to compare since the PCM had the Acme 1433 and the Indmar had the Acme 2079 as far as performance.
Old    Mark (FunkyBunch)      Join Date: Jun 2011       10-22-2012, 9:40 AM Reply   
Thanks Josh I think you covered just about anything I have read or heard in the last few months about all the changes.
Old     (simplej)      Join Date: Sep 2011       10-22-2012, 10:26 AM Reply   
mark, yes the marine power tige's are SUPER loud, much like the new ilmor's, maybe even louder

indmar makes a good engine. is it a PCM, no but it would not make or break buying a boat if it had an indmar or pcm...
Old    Joe (ilikebeaverandboats)      Join Date: Jul 2007       10-22-2012, 10:57 PM Reply   
I dig it! Tower is headed the right direction. The way it mounts looks killer. above it, eh, still could have some work.

interior looks decent, too many curve with the vinyl though, not a fan of that, looks kinda tacky.
Old    Ian Brown (wakereviews)      Join Date: Sep 2006       10-23-2012, 7:17 AM Reply   
i think if they changed the curvy s thing between the tubes on the tower to more of an X theme that matches the x on the boat that would be pretty dope. Great looking boat though for sure. Might have to go back to a bunch of flake for next year
Old    Murphy Smith (murphy_smith)      Join Date: Dec 2005       10-23-2012, 7:27 AM Reply   
Great looking boat and I hope that MB continues to keep their boats simple as far as electronics go.

For years we never had a decent MB dealer in North Texas and that always was a concern of mine in regards to service and re-sale. We recent purchased a 2011 Malibu VLX and love it - but if I was in the market again, I'd certainly give the MB and spin and see what I thought.

I know that the MB has started to put pressure on the V-ride series to become even more competitve in price.
Old    Tampa Wake (tampawake)      Join Date: Mar 2008       10-23-2012, 8:34 AM Reply   
Man that is sweeeeeet. Please MB get a deeper freeboard and taller seat basis then it would be the perfect fit for me. Well a perfect fit in about 4 lightly used years haha
Old    Brett Yates (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       10-23-2012, 9:43 AM Reply   
Tampa, what do you mean deeper freeboard? Freeboard is the measurement from the waterline to the top of the deck. They have tons of freeboard. I agree with you somewhat on the deeper interior though. They must have the floor raised pretty high to allow the amount of ballast they have which makes the inside somewhat shallow, at least compared to the amount of freeboard.
Old    Tampa Wake (tampawake)      Join Date: Mar 2008       10-23-2012, 1:52 PM Reply   
Trust me I think these boats are great not knocking them at all. I feel like Tige has the best freeboard you just sit down in it like sitting on my couch. Would not keep me from buying one hope this did not come across as a slam. CC also has a more shallow feel to them which is one thing I dont like about them.
Old    Shawndoggy (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-23-2012, 2:16 PM Reply   
I think the 23'ers are about three inches shallower in the interior than a malibu 247 (top of gunnel to floor under seat). The shallow interior was noticeable for me for the first day or two we owned ours and now it feels totally natural. In fact I sorta don't like the deeper interiors anymore because it is like a car with a high beltline... like the windows come up to your neck.

But I totally know what you mean. It does seem weird at first. Sangers are the same way... maybe even a touch lower in the seat base.
Old    Drew Richardson (surffresh)      Join Date: Jun 2010       10-23-2012, 2:38 PM Reply   
I was tied up to a new Bu 23 at Wake the Lake event in Charlotte back in Sept. in the same 2012 MB 23 that you saw in Tampa, the top deck sides on the MB were 5 inches higher than the Bu, the floor in the Bu may be lower, we played with it and really could not tell much if any difference, after all there is a lot going on under the floor of the MB, 64 gal gas tank and 2300lbs of ballast
Old    D.F.T.R. Josh (downfortheride)      Join Date: Jun 2005       10-23-2012, 9:38 PM Reply   
D Nell ~ I think it's time for some on the water shots... Come on sunshine!
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Old    Tampa Wake (tampawake)      Join Date: Mar 2008       10-24-2012, 8:24 AM Reply   
Like I say no problem at all with MB these boats are fantastic looking and build quality is top notch from what I have seen. Just felt like I was sitting much closer to the floor than on other boats. Very true lots going on under the deck for sure!!! I know your doing well with the line Drew.
Old    David (dhorton)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-25-2012, 8:50 AM Reply   
OK Dustin I know you have this boat in your possession now... how about some on the water pics? Or at least some more detailed on the trailer pics!
Old    D.F.T.R. Josh (downfortheride)      Join Date: Jun 2005       10-25-2012, 8:56 AM Reply   
No trailer pics... Let's get this bad boy in the water! Heal that knee Horton, with the snow flying our season just started...
Old    Dustin Nell (dnell)      Join Date: Oct 2011       10-25-2012, 10:31 AM Reply   
Ok David! So what's the point of me taking pics in the snow? And dftr you know the winter Cre is going to kill it this season.
Old    Scott Murphy (muurph84)      Join Date: May 2010       10-26-2012, 11:38 AM Reply   
does the new tower still fold down below the windshield on the 21? just wondering if it will still fit into a low garage door?
Old    Drew Richardson (surffresh)      Join Date: Jun 2010       10-26-2012, 1:44 PM Reply   
yep the windshield is still the tallest point, but the new ones fold forward over the steering wheel
Old    Dustin Nell (dnell)      Join Date: Oct 2011       10-29-2012, 3:32 PM Reply   
Well we finally got her on the water. Get better ones later.
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Old    Dustin Nell (dnell)      Join Date: Oct 2011       10-29-2012, 3:33 PM Reply   
One more
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Old    D Hill (dhill)      Join Date: Aug 2010       10-29-2012, 3:48 PM Reply   
love it on the water!!! congrats!
Old    D.F.T.R. Josh (downfortheride)      Join Date: Jun 2005       10-29-2012, 6:50 PM Reply   
Looking sweet D Nell... I can't wait to see it in person. Man I miss my MB since its sleeping for the winter.
Old    Absolutely (NOBODY)      Join Date: Apr 2011       10-29-2012, 7:08 PM Reply   
Butt Ugly!!!

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Old    Dustin Nell (dnell)      Join Date: Oct 2011       10-29-2012, 7:26 PM Reply   
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Butt Ugly!!!
Oh please explain your comment, I would love your opinion.
Old    Delta Force (wakebordr11)      Join Date: May 2001       10-29-2012, 7:32 PM Reply   
Relax Dustin, I think his acct got hacked, or he's a kook. He's had 3-4 crazy posts in a row just now
Old    Brett Yates (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       10-29-2012, 7:42 PM Reply   
Can we please kick this absolutely bum off wakeworld. He is a worthless troll. Probably Troy Deschaumps or something.
Old    TigeMike (chpthril)      Join Date: Oct 2007       10-29-2012, 7:50 PM Reply   
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Relax Dustin, I think his acct got hacked, or he's a kook. He's had 3-4 crazy posts in a row just now
Nope, thats just Nobody being....well, Nobody
Old    Skippabcool (skippabcool)      Join Date: Mar 2011       10-29-2012, 8:05 PM Reply   
Yep that is just regular Nobody
Old    Dustin Nell (dnell)      Join Date: Oct 2011       10-29-2012, 8:06 PM Reply   
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Relax Dustin, I think his acct got hacked, or he's a kook. He's had 3-4 crazy posts in a row just now
Oh its all in good fun right? I know not everyone will like my boat, that's not the point now is it. I am so happy with the way this one came together. Hell its my third one, i sure hope i got this one right.
Old    Skippabcool (skippabcool)      Join Date: Mar 2011       10-29-2012, 8:07 PM Reply   
Nice looking boat. Is that Utah Lake? Who and where is the dealer?

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