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Old    Big D (bigdtx)      Join Date: Feb 2005       08-19-2012, 1:07 PM Reply   
No truck nutz?!?!?! This is more serious than I thought.
Old    Troy Deschamps (TroyD)      Join Date: Jan 2012       08-19-2012, 1:23 PM Reply   
Obama is gonzo in a few months....

He'll go down in history as not only the most ineffective president in the history of the union but quite possibly the worst leader of all time in any country, state, union, etc....

"Yes we can...yes we can...!"
Old    Cliff (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       08-19-2012, 3:51 PM Reply   
one of the worst, most dangerous pieces of legislation ever.....

http://news.yahoo.com/dodd-frank-loo...7--sector.html

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...ankruptcy.html


and here is a tidbit of foreign exchange article:
http://news.investors.com/article/62...ven=OutBrainCP
Old    Jo Shmoe (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       08-19-2012, 6:28 PM Reply   
"Somebody invested in roads and bridges, if you have a business, you didn't build that."
If you actually listen to the statement, there is no pause between the word bridges and the word if, so it is actually the same sentence. So, if you still don't believe the that refers to bridges, you are just Intellectually Dishonest.
Old    Jo Shmoe (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       08-19-2012, 6:43 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tucker_McElroy View Post
You didn't build that!!

does it play when you reply?
Old    Tucker McElroy (Tucker_McElroy)      Join Date: Mar 2012       08-19-2012, 7:43 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by joeshmoe View Post
does it play when you reply?
What a dum#*@!!

Joe,
If you want to talk context we can... Put Obama's statement in contest with his ideology. Look at his books, look at his other speeches, look at where he went to church for decades, look at his peers, look at his friends, and when you are through looking at everything, the man-child that is Barack Hussein Obama, you still have:

If youíve got a business -- you didnít build that. Somebody else made that happen.

So, if you still don't believe what he said, you are just intellectually dishonest.

BTW, if you look at the Official White House transcript of the speech, there is a period after the word bridges. After the period in the transcript is a capital I, not a small i. Who is intellectually dishonest again?

I'll save you from the total read of the miserable speech, the quote is near the bottom of the page...
Old    Tucker McElroy (Tucker_McElroy)      Join Date: Mar 2012       08-19-2012, 7:46 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by joeshmoe View Post
does it play when you reply?
BTW, this is the same childish BS that all liberals resort to when they can't win the argument...
Old    Akadirtbikingdad (wakeboardingdad)      Join Date: Aug 2008       08-20-2012, 9:35 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by ord27 View Post
and here is a tidbit of foreign exchange article:
http://news.investors.com/article/62...ven=OutBrainCP
This is the (actually just one of the major ones) problem I have with Obama. His school years are concealed by a cloak of mystery. Did he use a special status to gain acceptance into these schools which he knew would automatically propel him to a grand political career? If so, he is not fit for office as he is dishonest, a liar, a cheat and unethical. It is this reason alone which makes me wonder why so many are swayed by his charisma.
Old    Jo Shmoe (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       08-20-2012, 10:25 AM Reply   
What a dum#*@!!
You haven't listened to what he actually said, without going through the republican filters and Fox telling you what you are hearing.
tucker, you are intellectually dishonest because you listen to Fox and decide what they say is the truth, its not! A period is a pause, there was no pause, therefor there should be no period, can you follow that logic? A true republican that isn't intellectually dishonest would agree that he is talking about bridges and then rip him on context, but only far right republicans(who accept fox as truth) will continue to say the word "that" was for your business.
Old    Tucker McElroy (Tucker_McElroy)      Join Date: Mar 2012       08-20-2012, 11:15 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by joeshmoe View Post
What a dum#*@!!
You haven't listened to what he actually said, without going through the republican filters and Fox telling you what you are hearing.
tucker, you are intellectually dishonest because you listen to Fox and decide what they say is the truth, its not! A period is a pause, there was no pause, therefor there should be no period, can you follow that logic? A true republican that isn't intellectually dishonest would agree that he is talking about bridges and then rip him on context, but only far right republicans(who accept fox as truth) will continue to say the word "that" was for your business.
I read the transcript on the White House website... you dumb#$@!
Old    Jo Shmoe (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       08-20-2012, 1:31 PM Reply   
hey dumbAzz, watch and listen to the actual video! I knew you didn't watch it, just listen to fox, they always tell the truth, Dumb@ss!
Old    Tucker McElroy (Tucker_McElroy)      Join Date: Mar 2012       08-20-2012, 3:39 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by joeshmoe View Post
hey dumbAzz, watch and listen to the actual video! I knew you didn't watch it, just listen to fox, they always tell the truth, Dumb@ss!
I did watch it, listen to it, read it and even considered what he was actually saying and now matter your brainless, dazed, deficient, dense, dim, doltish, dopey, dull, dumb, dummy, foolish, futile, gullible, half-baked, half-witted, idiotic, ill-advised, imbecilic, inane, indiscreet, insensate, irrelevant, laughable, loser, ludicrous, meaningless, mindless, moronic, naive, nonsensical, obtuse, out to lunch, pointless, puerile, rash, senseless, shortsighted, simple, simpleminded, slow, sluggish, stolid, stupefied, thick, thick-headed, trivial, unintelligent, unthinking, witless self tells me, he meant what he said and the punctuation on the White House website proves it. It doesn't matter what you think it he said or what you think he meant.

What else can I say? You sir, are an idiot! End of discussion.
Old    Cliff (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       08-20-2012, 4:17 PM Reply   
can't you guys just get along?

here is a funny article:

http://news.yahoo.com/president-obam...-politics.html

Obama actually says, "you can't just make stuff up"......bahahahaha

he claims that his campaign isn't negative.......bahahaha.
Old    Jeremy (wake77)      Join Date: Jan 2009       08-20-2012, 5:10 PM Reply   
^It's what effective campaigning has become. Both sides are guilty of it.

"Obama is gonzo in a few months...."

Only people that aren't paying attention make statements like this.

"His school years are concealed by a cloak of mystery."

This has just become the "birther" issue of 2012. It didn't work in 2008, I don't suspect it will work this year. And what is your opinion on the "mystery" of Mitt's tax returns??
Old    Cliff (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       08-20-2012, 7:38 PM Reply   
I really don't think that there is a mystery with his returns. I honestly believe that his accounting team prepared a legal return that minimized his tax payout. That's what I do. That's what most on this board do. I think that it is a good talking point for the left. They are smart to realize that low income Joe Bob and his family will take offense to the returns. I think that they would take offense to every politicians returns.

I am growing really weary of the negatives from both sides. I find myself pointing out things that I find offensive about the actions of the current administration (and his wife) and I justify it as a counter punch or just as survival tactics for "my side".

I wish that this weren't the case. The two sides of the isle are SO far apart now, that it would make a great election season if they just ran on accomplishments, ideology , and solutions both long term and short term. But, we know that that's not going to happen.

I can only speak for myself. I am genuinely afraid for our country if Obama gets re-elected. That's not a talking point or an angry rant. That's a true feeling coming from my gut. It seems like having some fear is looked on as a joke or with ridicule. That's to bad. It has really turned me off on the entire system.
Some on here would attribute that to "Fox News" brainwashing. I find that both humorous and insulting. I am plenty capable of deciphering which news stories are over the top and which ones aren't (from all of the stations)

I did just finish the book "The Great Destroyer". The last 100 pages are footnotes backing up the author's claims that he makes through out the book. He paints a very convincing and compelling picture of just how Obama governs. Most of his assertions are extracted from Obama's exact words and the words of his administration (actions included).

I invite you Obama supporters to get past the title, get past who the author is (I'm kind of waiting on the ridicule with this one), and read the thing. It would be nice to discuss some of the highlights with someone with an opposing set of beliefs.

play nice
Old    Jo Shmoe (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       08-20-2012, 8:21 PM Reply   
FU tucker, you are intellectually dishonest, you don't even know the truth, End of discussion
Old    Tucker McElroy (Tucker_McElroy)      Join Date: Mar 2012       08-20-2012, 8:37 PM Reply   
Quote:
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FU tucker, you are intellectually dishonest, you don't even know the truth, End of discussion
Now that may be the funniest post of the decade... What a tool..
Old    Cliff (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       08-20-2012, 8:41 PM Reply   
so much for nice.......
Old    Tucker McElroy (Tucker_McElroy)      Join Date: Mar 2012       08-20-2012, 9:09 PM Reply   
He didn't build that either...
Old    Paul (psudy)      Join Date: Dec 2003       08-21-2012, 7:07 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by joeshmoe View Post
FU tucker, you are intellectually dishonest, you don't even know the truth, End of discussion
LMFAO. Boohoo.
Old    Big D (bigdtx)      Join Date: Feb 2005       08-21-2012, 9:16 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tucker_McElroy View Post
You didn't build that!!

Yay!
Old    Big D (bigdtx)      Join Date: Feb 2005       08-21-2012, 9:17 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tucker_McElroy View Post
You didn't build that!!

Hello!
Old    Big D (bigdtx)      Join Date: Feb 2005       08-21-2012, 9:18 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tucker_McElroy View Post
You didn't build that!!

Oops!
Old    Big D (bigdtx)      Join Date: Feb 2005       08-21-2012, 9:31 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tucker_McElroy View Post
You didn't build that!!

Woot!
Old    Tucker McElroy (Tucker_McElroy)      Join Date: Mar 2012       08-21-2012, 9:33 AM Reply   
Loser!
Old    Big D (bigdtx)      Join Date: Feb 2005       08-21-2012, 9:40 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tucker_McElroy View Post
You didn't build that!!

Love this video.
Old    Tucker McElroy (Tucker_McElroy)      Join Date: Mar 2012       08-21-2012, 10:03 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by bigdtx View Post
Love this video.
Loser!
Old    Tucker McElroy (Tucker_McElroy)      Join Date: Mar 2012       08-21-2012, 10:05 AM Reply   
Old    Tucker McElroy (Tucker_McElroy)      Join Date: Mar 2012       08-21-2012, 10:05 AM Reply   


Hi loser!
Old    Tucker McElroy (Tucker_McElroy)      Join Date: Mar 2012       08-21-2012, 10:06 AM Reply   

I would seem as though you liberals are nothing but losers...
Old    Tucker McElroy (Tucker_McElroy)      Join Date: Mar 2012       08-21-2012, 10:07 AM Reply   


Loser!



Loser!
Old    Tucker McElroy (Tucker_McElroy)      Join Date: Mar 2012       08-21-2012, 10:07 AM Reply   
What's that?



Oh.. it's you again loser...



Now take your ball and go home...
Old    Big D (bigdtx)      Join Date: Feb 2005       08-21-2012, 10:07 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tucker_McElroy View Post
You didn't build that!!

Is there an echo in here?
Old    Tucker McElroy (Tucker_McElroy)      Join Date: Mar 2012       08-21-2012, 10:14 AM Reply   




































Old    Scott (magicr)      Join Date: May 2004       08-21-2012, 11:22 AM Reply   
Tucker, so glad that you keep a Shat load of Pink bunnies on the ready. I'm thoroughly impressed.

Great way to fill up the page, bravo!
Old    Tucker McElroy (Tucker_McElroy)      Join Date: Mar 2012       08-21-2012, 3:03 PM Reply   
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Yup! I have lots of pink bunnies... I raise them for the liberals that lose arguments with me...
Old    Jeremy (wake77)      Join Date: Jan 2009       08-21-2012, 4:46 PM Reply   
I'm not trying to fan the flames, but aren't there many small business owners that received small business loans with a low interest rate set by the Fed? Does that really fit the claim that they "built it on their own"? What about the surgeon that benefitted from receiving govt-back student loans and learned their trade in schools and hospitals that count on govt funds to operate? Is this really doing it on your own?
Old    Jeremy (wake77)      Join Date: Jan 2009       08-21-2012, 4:57 PM Reply   
And how come when someone wins an achievement award, sporting event, etc. they never say, "I don't want to thank anyone. I did this on my own"?
Old    Cliff (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       08-21-2012, 7:44 PM Reply   
he implied and somewhat said, that working hard, being smart, and having an entrepreneur spirit accounts for nothing.......

if you study his other speeches and writings, it's easy to see that he was pandering to people who don't own businesses and who possibly don't work, to make them feel that if they elected him, he would make sure that the government helped them succeed. He was/is trying to give them hope that they too can be a success. Again, he did this by completely discounting ALL of the traits that make a small business owner's business successful.

It is meaningless to argue over the syntax of that one sentence. Who cares where the period or coma goes or doesn't go.
Old    Barry Waste (barry)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-21-2012, 7:51 PM Reply   
I certainly can't speak for anyone but myself and my wife, but we built our business without any loans, government intervention, or help from anyone.
Old    Akadirtbikingdad (wakeboardingdad)      Join Date: Aug 2008       08-22-2012, 6:41 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdtx View Post
Is there an echo in here?
Yeah. It says...

Do

Dou

Douc

Douch

Douche

Douche

ouche

uche

che

he

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Old    Jason G (jason_ssr)      Join Date: Apr 2001       08-22-2012, 6:46 AM Reply   
The point of the speech was to justify taxing the successful (the rich) an unreasonable percentage over the common man because the infrastructure provided by the whole is used to facilitate their success.

He doesnt understand the concept of freedom and risk/reward. Freedom to succeed come siwth the freedom to fail. Business owners took a risk that non-business owners did not. Their membership fee should not be a greater percentage just beczuse their risk paid off.

Its like you and I both got rooms for 5 days at the Bellagio for $300 a night to do some gambling. We both take $3000 to spend on rooms and gambling. At the end of 5 days I lose my $1500 gambling money and expect to pay my $1500 for the room. At the end of 5 days, you have won $5000 so you have a total of $8000. When we check out they discount my room to $0 a night since I lost and I take home $1500 only down $1500. Your room triples in cost since you won costing your $4500. You take home $3500 up $500

You complain and they tell you, "look! You Won!! your taking home 7X what your buddy is!"

"I know, but we had identical rooms, you shouldnt charge me more for mine just because I won."

"well, you didnt win that on your own. The losers are the ones who keep the casino in business which facilitated your opportunity to win. So you have to pay their bill for their part in your winning. "

"But we took the same risk and had the same opportunity!"

"Welcome to America!"
Old    Big D (bigdtx)      Join Date: Feb 2005       08-22-2012, 7:21 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by wakeboardingdad View Post
Yeah. It says...

Do

Dou

Douc

Douch

Douche

Douche

ouche

uche

che

he

e
Old    Tucker McElroy (Tucker_McElroy)      Join Date: Mar 2012       08-22-2012, 9:06 AM Reply   
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Yup! I have lots of pink bunnies... I raise them for the liberals that lose arguments with me...
I think he was talking about you Big Douche from Texas...
Old    Tucker McElroy (Tucker_McElroy)      Join Date: Mar 2012       08-22-2012, 9:07 AM Reply   
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You didn't build that.
Old    Tucker McElroy (Tucker_McElroy)      Join Date: Mar 2012       08-22-2012, 9:07 AM Reply   
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Big Douche from Texas has never built anything...
Old    Tucker McElroy (Tucker_McElroy)      Join Date: Mar 2012       08-22-2012, 9:08 AM Reply   
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I would seem as though you liberals are nothing but losers...
Hi Big!

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Originally Posted by Tucker_McElroy View Post

I would seem as though you liberals are nothing but losers...
Old    Tucker McElroy (Tucker_McElroy)      Join Date: Mar 2012       08-22-2012, 9:09 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by Tucker_McElroy View Post

I would seem as though you liberals are nothing but losers...
This means you Big...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tucker_McElroy View Post

I would seem as though you liberals are nothing but losers...
Yup You!

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Originally Posted by Tucker_McElroy View Post

I would seem as though you liberals are nothing but losers...
Old    Danny Smylie (smylie)      Join Date: Jun 2002       08-22-2012, 10:57 AM Reply   
Dave, can you shut this thread down? Tucker is showing how childish and incompetent he really is.
Old    Someone Else (deltahoosier)      Join Date: Jun 2002       08-22-2012, 11:44 AM Reply   
You mean childish as constantly re-posting links that they know auto start over and over??????????? I think that is at the top of childish.
Old    Big D (bigdtx)      Join Date: Feb 2005       08-22-2012, 12:15 PM Reply   
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You mean childish as constantly re-posting links that they know auto start over and over??????????? I think that is at the top of childish.








Old    Brett W (brettw)      Join Date: Jul 2007       08-22-2012, 12:20 PM Reply   
This thread was crap from the start and has gone nowhere since.
Old    Tucker McElroy (Tucker_McElroy)      Join Date: Mar 2012       08-22-2012, 12:32 PM Reply   
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This thread was crap from the start and has gone nowhere since.
Almost 6,000 views.... yup, that's crap...
Old    Big D (bigdtx)      Join Date: Feb 2005       08-22-2012, 1:11 PM Reply   
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Almost 6,000 views.... yup, that's crap...










Old    Josh Robinson (sideswipeproductions)      Join Date: Jun 2009       08-22-2012, 8:47 PM Reply   
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Almost 6,000 views.... yup, that's crap...
Thats like judging the outcome of a car crash by how many people slow down and look.
Old    Tucker McElroy (Tucker_McElroy)      Join Date: Mar 2012       08-22-2012, 10:42 PM Reply   
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Thats like judging the outcome of a car crash by how many people slow down and look.
Just so you know, you didn't build this thread... I made that happen..

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