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Old    Jeremy Byrom (wakerider111)      Join Date: Jul 2006       07-08-2012, 2:21 AM Reply   
had some wakeboards in the back of my vehicle (no boat being towed). Park entrance booth operator spotted them and i had to certify they were muscle free. it was quick and easy but unexpected... good on them for having an eye out for all possibilities.

what next...Yes sir, my swim trunks have never been in infested waters.
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Old    James Albertoni (slimjim44)      Join Date: Feb 2009       07-08-2012, 11:01 AM Reply   
Hopefully you don't need the 140F water wash while your trunks are still on.
Old     (Bam6961)      Join Date: Apr 2011       07-08-2012, 11:12 AM Reply   
Dude tahoe lake is the worst, they take it to the extreme. There is a complete decontamination station that you have to go though if they find a single ounce of water in you boat even if its in your life jacket is damp. at the center they flush your engine and compartment or anything else that is wet. One guy had to empty his entire boat... not only that but they charge you so dam much for the decontamination, they dont even do it for free. I believe my friends dad had to pay like 70 bucks just to get his boat in the water, cuz after they charge you 50 for the decontamination they charge an extra 20 for the launch. Its a complete joke...
Old    Hey, You scratched my anchor! (bftskir)      Join Date: Jan 2004       07-08-2012, 11:33 AM Reply   
Its not a joke if they catch you trying to circumvent the inspection...$5000 fine ...no joke
Old    Todd (antoddio)      Join Date: Dec 2006       07-08-2012, 11:40 AM Reply   
Cheers to them if they are able to stop the spread of any invasives. Tax dollars well spent. Those mussels along with Milfoil really suck.
Old    Ryan Duckworth (ryand121)      Join Date: Feb 2007       07-08-2012, 1:45 PM Reply   
Hell ya! I'm glad they're taking it so seriously! Powell is my home lake. And with a houseboat in a slip, I could not imagine how big of a headache it would be in an infested lake. As for the people that don't take it seriously and willingly try to sneak around the checks, I hope they fine the living hell out of you! And honestly, is it really that much trouble to get checked out? At least you know your not part of the problem. If you don't like it, find a different lake!
Old    Jeremy Byrom (wakerider111)      Join Date: Jul 2006       07-08-2012, 3:46 PM Reply   
Powell is my backyard.
glad things are still muscle free here. first time i have ever been asked anything about my gear when not towing a boat. props to the employee for going above and beyond. my stuff never goes anywhere but Powell.

when you got Powell as your home there is no reason to go elsewhere

checking my shorts comment is just a tongue in cheek joke with a side of seriousness
Old     (Bam6961)      Join Date: Apr 2011       07-08-2012, 5:42 PM Reply   
Haha yea, i meant it was joke because of much they charge, in donnor lake they dont charge people 50 bucks to for a decontamination. It should free or at the most 10 bucks. (Free: could be payed with state money). Not only that but it went up from last year, they only charge that much because they can.
Old    Johnny Neves (johnny_jr)      Join Date: Mar 2006       07-08-2012, 8:14 PM Reply   
Spent 3 days in Tahoe last week. Full decon set me back 106 bucks , they flush the engine, bilge, all ballast tanks must be filled and drained, bilge pump MUST be backflushed in reverse, full power wash of trailer and exterior of boat. All done with recycled 140 degree water. Took them 1 hour 45 mins to complete. But Tahoe was worth it, no complaints here, keep it blue and muscle free.
Old    Andy Graham (ottog1979)      Join Date: Apr 2007       07-09-2012, 9:20 AM Reply   
^^ Like the state (of CA) has extra money...
Old    Shawndoggy (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       07-09-2012, 12:33 PM Reply   
LOL, you guys know the difference between muscles and mussels, right? I got tons of muscles in our crew and we never get sweated.

Old    Shawndoggy (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       07-09-2012, 12:59 PM Reply   
When I think of muscle prevention, this is the image that always comes to mind....

Old    Eric (rowdy)      Join Date: Mar 2006       07-09-2012, 1:32 PM Reply   
So they want everything completely dry? I've never been able to get all the water out of my center ballast bag on my V215.
Old    Jeremy Byrom (wakerider111)      Join Date: Jul 2006       07-10-2012, 12:34 PM Reply   
[QUOTE=shawndoggy;1765865]LOL, you guys know the difference between muscles and mussels, right? I got tons of muscles in our crew and we never get sweated.

Haa! right. got me there. oops
Old    John James (johnboyy7)      Join Date: Apr 2011       07-10-2012, 12:46 PM Reply   
so when you pull up they do an inspection and if they see water, they do the hot condensate wash? or wash not matter what?
Old    Peter L (Indyxc)      Join Date: Jul 2011       07-10-2012, 1:21 PM Reply   
What a big fuss. While I admire the attempt at prevention, it almost seems futile. To prevent it you have to eliminate the contamination 100% of the time from a boat. To have it spread, you just have to let it get by once. It's almost seemingly going to happen.

We have them on my lake, as do most lakes in Michigan. They are annoying for sure as they are sharp like to grow on things. Strangely they dont seem to like to grow on my pontoon boat or boat lifts, which is good.

On the flip side they filter the water like crazy and make the lake a lot cleaner, which is nice.
Old     (nitrousbird)      Join Date: Sep 2008       07-10-2012, 5:32 PM Reply   
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On the flip side they filter the water like crazy and make the lake a lot cleaner, which is nice.
Hmmm, I'd like to see some of these in Ohio to clean up some of our nasty water.
Old    - (Txjole)      Join Date: Dec 2011       07-10-2012, 7:03 PM Reply   
How do they stop and inspect every bird flying into the lake is my question?
Old    Murphy Smith (murphy_smith)      Join Date: Dec 2005       07-10-2012, 7:07 PM Reply   
I thought this had to do with Lance Armstrong and his doping scandal.
Old    Adrien Snell (adrien)      Join Date: Oct 2009       07-11-2012, 1:40 AM Reply   
Think up a way to safely inoculate an infected lake and the idea will be worth at least a BILLION $$$$$$$$$$$.
Old    Scott Wood (SuperSacR)      Join Date: Jan 2014       04-23-2014, 11:14 AM Reply   
There is a new filter system for ballast tanks that will let you by-pass the decontamination of your ballast tanks if you have it installed on your boat. It was developed with the TRPA and was tested and approved by them and the Western Regional Panel, they will be available as an option on some brands on 2015 boats and as a retro-fit kit this summer.
see www.wake-worx.com for more information.
Old    Shawndoggy (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       04-23-2014, 11:18 AM Reply   
Scott, what's the price on that?
Old    Dave Diaz (wakebrdr94)      Join Date: Jul 2010       04-23-2014, 4:39 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by shawndoggy View Post
When I think of muscle prevention, this is the image that always comes to mind....

dude you need to put this on the crew, hilarious
Old    Greg Scharf (obriengotwake)      Join Date: Feb 2003       04-23-2014, 5:28 PM Reply   
I agree with my michigan rider. We have had them for years. Cleaned up the lakes. This has created better growing of plantation and weeds which gives fish a place to live. Over the years I have noticed that the population of zebra muscle decreased ten fold. As the lake clears they lose food and start to die off. Never had clogging issues with any of our lake fed pumps. They did how ever like the boat lift. But like is said the last five years not one on the lift anymore. A lot of money is spent to delay the inevitable.
Old    Jordan Maxymek (Jmaxymek)      Join Date: Feb 2012       04-23-2014, 9:05 PM Reply   
If they're good for the water quality and eventually die off, why is there such a huge push to get keep them out? Yes they're sharp and smell when they're on shore, but can't rocks be sharp and animals smell in the national forests all the time.
Old    Hey, You scratched my anchor! (bftskir)      Join Date: Jan 2004       04-23-2014, 11:03 PM Reply   
Here's why:
It is imperative to prevent zebra and quagga mussels from spreading further, and to keep new invasive species out of the Great Lakes. NWF supports stronger ballast water regulation as well as improved methods of ensuring recreational boats are cleaned of invasive species before moving between bodies of water.

Zebra and quagga mussels harm native fish populations, ruin beaches and attach to boats, water intake pipes, and other structures causing the Great Lakes economy billions of dollars a year in damage.

They devastate native species by stripping the food web of plankton, which has a cascading effect throughout the ecosystem. Lack of food has caused populations of alewives, salmon, whitefish and native mussel species to plummet.

Zebra and quagga mussels promote water clarity by filter feeding. Clearer water allows sunlight to penetrate to the lake bottom, creating ideal conditions for algae to grow. In this way, zebra and quagga mussels have promoted the growth and spread of deadly algae blooms. Algae foul beaches and cause botulism outbreaks that have killed countless fish and more than 70,000 aquatic birds in the last ten years.
Old    Scott Wood (SuperSacR)      Join Date: Jan 2014       04-24-2014, 12:17 PM Reply   
The pricing is still preliminary, but I expect as an option on a new boats it will be under $900. Retro-fits probably be closer to $600 for 3 ballast tanks.
Old    FENCE SENCE (fence_sence)      Join Date: Jul 2008       04-24-2014, 12:30 PM Reply   
Quote:
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The pricing is still preliminary, but I expect as an option on a new boats it will be under $900. Retro-fits probably be closer to $600 for 3 ballast tanks.
How does it affect water flow into the bags? It seems like a fairly constrictive setup.
Old    Scott Wood (SuperSacR)      Join Date: Jan 2014       04-28-2014, 9:07 AM Reply   
It slows fill times about 15% so if it took 8 minutes to fill a tank it would take 9 minutes.

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