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Old     (simplej)      Join Date: Sep 2011       05-15-2012, 7:27 AM Reply   
welp, i just downloaded and watched lipsmack, and it blows defy out of the water! its such a fun film that makes me just wanna go out and ride! hope you all get chance to see it.
Old    LR3w8kbrdr            05-15-2012, 7:30 AM Reply   
Where did you download?
Old    Scott T (thescott)      Join Date: Nov 2007       05-15-2012, 8:56 AM Reply   
Not sure where else its available, but it's on iTunes

http://itunes.apple.com/us/movie/lipsmack/id524821405
Old    Dustin Yost (dyost)      Join Date: Jan 2007       05-15-2012, 9:29 AM Reply   
I'm sitting on an airplane right now, just downloaded to iPhone and gonna check it out on my flight. It looks killer from the teasers though.
Old    DirtyCracker (ghettofab)      Join Date: Aug 2008       05-15-2012, 11:08 AM Reply   
Old    SCBrips (scbrips)      Join Date: Mar 2006       05-15-2012, 11:48 AM Reply   
Purchased HD version via iTunes. GREAT film. Very refreshing. Highly recommend.
Old    Erik Jernberg (juniorhawk)      Join Date: Jul 2004       05-15-2012, 1:26 PM Reply   
Who's Ferrari is that?
I have to know.

That video looks incredible. The shot with someone popping out over a kicker, in a backdrop where you see no water and it looks like they are in a motocross field. I have never seen anything like it. Absolutely amazing.

In the trailer, I am amazed at the level of zeach-ness happening at 1:04. I don't know who that is but wow... thaz-sum-zeach if I know what zeach even is (which I may not). Cool exit off the pipe/bar though.
Old    DirtyCracker (ghettofab)      Join Date: Aug 2008       05-15-2012, 1:43 PM Reply   
The Ferrari is a 360 Modena owned by Jeff Mckee's dad.

Stoked you guys like the film.
Old    Zach (fgcuwake)      Join Date: Jan 2010       05-15-2012, 5:14 PM Reply   
I also just got the vid on itunes, and its raw! Really brings back the FUN feeling that older vids used to bring. Soo much creativity and ingenuity! I'd recommend it.
Old    Benj Trogdon (BenjTrogdon)      Join Date: May 2011       05-15-2012, 6:02 PM Reply   
Erik, you dont know what zeaching is. Im pretty sure most wakeboarders use that term way incorrectly....

By the way, I just watched Lipsmack and it was amazing. The rail riding completly blew my mind. How in the world does Nate Perry ollie shoulder high onto a skinny handrail??? I have never seen anything like it before. Banger after Banger after Banger. The riding in this movie is what all wakeboarders should strive for and be inspired by.

Last edited by BenjTrogdon; 05-15-2012 at 6:04 PM.
Old    Matt Coldren (yorwakebordfrend)      Join Date: Aug 2006       05-15-2012, 6:09 PM Reply   
zeaching came from snowboarders and just started getting used by wakeboarders most who dont know what they're talking about. Zeach is when someones all improper and **** on a rail.. like not parallel with the rail on a nosepress or not perfect 90 degrees and front boards and boardslides. spinning while on a rail is zeach too believe that. learn from snowboarding yall dont spin while on a rail... ****s ugly
Old    DirtyCracker (ghettofab)      Join Date: Aug 2008       05-15-2012, 6:14 PM Reply   
Zeaching Smeachinnnng. Last thing we were worried about when filming for Lipsmack was zeach police. We did whatever we wanted and had fun doing that. People are way to serious about wakeboarding sometimes...
Old    Matt Coldren (yorwakebordfrend)      Join Date: Aug 2006       05-15-2012, 6:19 PM Reply   
yeah its all about having fun fahsho.... zeaching is just uglier than proper lol
Old    Matt Coldren (yorwakebordfrend)      Join Date: Aug 2006       05-15-2012, 6:22 PM Reply   
1:04 definitely isnt a zeach thats just pretty much dope
Old     (simplej)      Join Date: Sep 2011       05-15-2012, 6:23 PM Reply   
omg you guys do not properly understand the zeach. the zeach is not a swivel, it is not a crooked nosepress. its when you end up in limbo between a boardslide and 5050, boardslides gotta stay 90, 50 50s on the bolts. anything else is fair game
Old    Matt Coldren (yorwakebordfrend)      Join Date: Aug 2006       05-15-2012, 6:29 PM Reply   
aka exactly what i said
Old    Logan Downer (logan)      Join Date: Dec 2011       05-15-2012, 8:28 PM Reply   
you guys are tool bags, if you don't like what somebody does on a rail then fine but who is the end all be all of what looks good and what doesn't? get bent.
Old    Matt Coldren (yorwakebordfrend)      Join Date: Aug 2006       05-15-2012, 8:42 PM Reply   
spoken like a true zeach master
Old    DirtyCracker (ghettofab)      Join Date: Aug 2008       05-15-2012, 9:29 PM Reply   
Lets not turn this thread into a Zeach debate haha.

Back to Lipsmack? Whos seen it? What did you think? What your was your favorite section? Favorite Rider?
Old    Broc Schall (bschall)      Join Date: Jun 2007       05-15-2012, 9:52 PM Reply   
Lipsmack was dope. hella funny when the 2.0 was hooked to the chair. My favorite section was all of the land gaps and how it started off with a crash reel. There needed to be more footy of the yacht/sports fishing boat. that wake looked huge
Old    Matt Coldren (yorwakebordfrend)      Join Date: Aug 2006       05-15-2012, 10:07 PM Reply   
all the shredtown **** was dope..!
Old    Logan Downer (logan)      Join Date: Dec 2011       05-15-2012, 10:10 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by yorwakebordfrend View Post
spoken like a true zeach master
see the funny thing is wake boarding, or any board sport for that matter is about self expression. So there really is no right or wrong way to do anything, but I salute you for being so c0re.
Old    Broc Schall (bschall)      Join Date: Jun 2007       05-15-2012, 10:11 PM Reply   
how long until you think itll take this thread to turn into people getting angry over vestless riders?
Old    Logan Downer (logan)      Join Date: Dec 2011       05-15-2012, 10:16 PM Reply   
or before somebody recommends an MB?
Old    Matt Coldren (yorwakebordfrend)      Join Date: Aug 2006       05-15-2012, 10:20 PM Reply   
im not hating that you like to zeach man no worries thats your thing.. you can grab tindy as well but have fun getting published in a mag
Old    Logan Downer (logan)      Join Date: Dec 2011       05-15-2012, 10:27 PM Reply   
I don't normally let a dip**** have the last word but I'm too tired to argue.

Back to Lipsmack, what does everybody think?
Old    Mark Griffin (cheesydog)      Join Date: Mar 2009       05-16-2012, 1:18 AM Reply   
damn lipsmack looks good! Going to download now

Oh and seriously can the zeach crap just go away and die already? I dont know a single pro rider who is supporting it, it seems to be mainly made up of try hards with nothing better to do than judge other riders.
Old    DirtyCracker (ghettofab)      Join Date: Aug 2008       05-16-2012, 8:40 AM Reply   
Ya cheesy!
Old    Logan Downer (logan)      Join Date: Dec 2011       05-16-2012, 8:59 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheesydog View Post
damn lipsmack looks good! Going to download now

Oh and seriously can the zeach crap just go away and die already? I dont know a single pro rider who is supporting it, it seems to be mainly made up of try hards with nothing better to do than judge other riders.
This.
Old    Matt Coldren (yorwakebordfrend)      Join Date: Aug 2006       05-16-2012, 9:05 AM Reply   
plenty of pro riders support it. its just a rule haha if it aint 90 it aint proper. i guess none of yall snowboard or you would understand the concept a lot better
Old    Logan Downer (logan)      Join Date: Dec 2011       05-16-2012, 9:10 AM Reply   
or we just aren't douche bags, back to lipsmack.
Old    Matt Coldren (yorwakebordfrend)      Join Date: Aug 2006       05-16-2012, 9:17 AM Reply   
or just have no respect for the sport or how it's portrayed
Old    Logan Downer (logan)      Join Date: Dec 2011       05-16-2012, 9:26 AM Reply   
enough try hard c0reness, back to lipsmack.
Old    Benj Trogdon (BenjTrogdon)      Join Date: May 2011       05-16-2012, 12:10 PM Reply   
I vote Oli Derome rider of the year
Old    Matt Coldren (yorwakebordfrend)      Join Date: Aug 2006       05-16-2012, 1:28 PM Reply   
how bout the very beginning when i think andrew adams it is comes off to the right on the incline bar and nails that big ass red ball... i was like zaaaaayum
Old    Joe Burbo (jburbo)      Join Date: Sep 2007       05-16-2012, 1:44 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyost View Post
I'm sitting on an airplane right now, just downloaded to iPhone and gonna check it out on my flight. It looks killer from the teasers though.
im going to do the same thing, heading to MI for a demo and it will give me something to watch on the plane!
Old    Logan Downer (logan)      Join Date: Dec 2011       05-16-2012, 5:13 PM Reply   
Any chance this could go on Google Play?
Old    Dustin Yost (dyost)      Join Date: Jan 2007       05-16-2012, 9:08 PM Reply   
Movie was great, really my only negative is that I'm still a big fan of showcasing an individual rider by each having their own segment. Seems recent films arent going that way (Rewritten, DEFY, Lipsmack) though so guess ill have to adjust.... I'm usually very bored with rail vids, but the rail sections in this flick had an awesome variety of creative stuff, plus a lot of monster kicker hits thrown in the mix. I was kinda worried this would be a little rail heavy, but thats not really the case, or at least it's fresh enough that it doesn't feel that way.

Soundtrack was good except for the rap track, good variety of different styles.

Super impressed by Oli's riding and Jeff Mckee's style, don't see enough of these guys on the internet vids. All riders in the vid took some pretty impressive risk with the gaps and rail hits.

All in all i think it came out great, definitely worth the $12.99 download and I've already watched it three times.
Old    9Drozd            05-16-2012, 9:48 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by yorwakebordfrend View Post
im not hating that you like to zeach man no worries thats your thing.. you can grab tindy as well but have fun getting published in a mag
Old    Matt Coldren (yorwakebordfrend)      Join Date: Aug 2006       05-16-2012, 9:51 PM Reply   
ahaha damn... good look on that one.. dont you just kinda cringe when you see that though
Old    9Drozd            05-16-2012, 9:58 PM Reply   
LOL. For me I like seeing zeaches, but I dont really care if its wrong in someone elses eyes. For me I like seeing the sport as more of ones expression. Right or wrong, I do like seeing stuff like that because its different. I just read through the thread from where i left off yesterday and I sough your comment and it made me think of this mag issue. Its all in good fun.
Old    L W (501s)      Join Date: Feb 2010       05-16-2012, 10:28 PM Reply   
Lipsmack rules. Its seriously a video that the industry needs. Ever trick isn't a 900 or 1080 without a grab. So many of the wakeboarding tricks are slow styled out spins or flips. It seems like every trick is grabbed off the wake. Rail sections are turbo! Its only $12! Get it!
Old    9Drozd            05-16-2012, 10:34 PM Reply   
BTW I loved the video. My only disappointment was that when it got to the end, I wanted more.
Old    KP (tke104)      Join Date: Jun 2010       05-17-2012, 7:12 AM Reply   
For anyone who downloaded it on iTunes, is it all DRMed up? Or can I watch it without iTunes or and iOS device?
Old    Nauti 210 (brett33)      Join Date: Apr 2011       05-17-2012, 7:35 AM Reply   
Bought it yesterday and love it. Tons of creativity, style and sketchy hits. Just the way it should be. Props to these guys, everyone was killing it.
Old    Tom (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       05-17-2012, 7:40 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by yorwakebordfrend View Post
ahaha damn... good look on that one.. dont you just kinda cringe when you see that though
A zeach is when you get stuck between a boardslide and 50-50 or when you cannot hold your boardslide/50-50.... that is not a zeach, it's actually a DOPE nose press. Not every rail trick needs to be EXACTLY straight or 90*. That notion is just ridiculous and hampers the style of riding.
Old    David Eggen (dave23)      Join Date: Nov 2006       05-17-2012, 7:51 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by logan View Post
Any chance this could go on Google Play?
I'm curious if this will happen as well. I'd much rather buy it off of Google Play than Itunes.
Old    Logan Downer (logan)      Join Date: Dec 2011       05-17-2012, 9:03 AM Reply   
I think it is safe to say that Lipsmack is the best representation of wake boarding is truly about, I've never had so much fun watching a wake vid. Thanks to Patrick and Slingshot for showing all the other film makers that you don't need a 3 year project, secret lakes and an stupid budget to make an awesome film. I hope this will bring other brands back in to the wake feature game. Lipsmack is the best wake video I have ever seen, hands down. It makes wake boarding fun, it is as top notch as sling's product. I would expect no less from this group of guys. Great job!
Old    Shredtastic (seth)      Join Date: Sep 2002       05-17-2012, 9:14 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by tke104 View Post
For anyone who downloaded it on iTunes, is it all DRMed up? Or can I watch it without iTunes or and iOS device?
Yeah it is. I was trying to break the DRM last night so I could burn it to DVD and watch on my TV, and I couldnt figure it out. It was the first time I had tried to do something like this. Does anyone recommend a good program to convert DRM?
Old    DirtyCracker (ghettofab)      Join Date: Aug 2008       05-17-2012, 11:26 AM Reply   
Lipsmack will be on Google, Xbox, Netflix, DVD and Playstation + more very soon. We will let you guys know.

Super pumped everyone liked the video so far!

Keep it going. Lets hear your favorite rail or part of the movie!
Old    Nauti 210 (brett33)      Join Date: Apr 2011       05-17-2012, 12:03 PM Reply   
wakesurf drop in off the jet ski.
Old    Logan Downer (logan)      Join Date: Dec 2011       05-17-2012, 12:07 PM Reply   
Naked paddle boarder drive by
Old    L W (501s)      Join Date: Feb 2010       05-17-2012, 9:42 PM Reply   
The DRM is a real bummer. I want to watch it on my TV too, and tried a wack of removal programs with no luck. That is definitley the only complaint, that there is itunes protection. The movie itself, one of the best.
Old    Johnny (johnny_defacto)      Join Date: Sep 2006       05-17-2012, 11:04 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by yorwakebordfrend View Post
ahaha damn... good look on that one.. dont you just kinda cringe when you see that though
nope. That is a legit crooked nosepress. IMO crooked presses look better than a straight press, whether snowboarding or wakeboarding. I do however prefer grabs in between the bindings or at the tip or tail only (no tindy or nelan or tailfish...etc) but I will never spot someone for doing it. I also think board slides look best at 90 when snowboarding or wakeboarding, but I will never "cringe" if it isn't done "proper". My opinion, just like yours, means nothing. I think this zeaching thing is lame, go do the trick the way you want it done and leave it alone.

back to lipsmack, loved it, good mix of boat and rails, and I appreciated all the variety of rails and I loved the gap at the end. sick.
Old     (simplej)      Join Date: Sep 2011       05-18-2012, 6:04 AM Reply   
Shut up about the Zeaxh we aren't snowboarding, zach leach doesn't wakeboard.

I think my favorite section was the opening wake riding part, the song and all different spots and styles were awesome. The only part I didn't absolutely love was the Germany section, but that was still great, great great film.
Old    Jeff Seidenstricker (flydenrict)      Join Date: Nov 2009       05-18-2012, 8:29 AM Reply   
My two favorite parts were:

The opening wake section when the riders were doing very similar grabs. Like the consecutive shots of them all doing methods, then poked stalefishes, etc.

The innovation with rails (obviously). For too long "innovation" just meant a different combination of up, flat, down sections or length/height of a rail. They complaetley opened the door by building A BRICK WALL and grinding it with wax and a pool set up at an actual stairset and handrail for example. They also mixed up the tricks beyond just different combinations of spinning into and out of tricks. The humpdy hump rail looked so fun, especially when McKee front boards through the whole thing. The whole thing gave off the same vibe as the Raph Derome rail video that came out last year.
Old    DirtyCracker (ghettofab)      Join Date: Aug 2008       05-18-2012, 6:43 PM Reply   
Sick! Stoked on all the response.

We will have a ton left over footage for web videos coming soon.
Old    Logan Downer (logan)      Join Date: Dec 2011       05-19-2012, 1:01 AM Reply   
McKee is way more on my radar after Lipsmack, I think I was most impressed by him. Let's all just say what we haven't yet but have all been thinking, this video absolutely destroys DEFY. I liked DEFY I thought it had some cool editing, but it didn't make me want to ride. Videos for me that have done that are: Relentless, The Truth, Push Process and Welcome. Patrick, you have definitely put your name up there with the big boys after this vid, if we can't get any more Justin Stephens videos for awhile, I'm not going to complain as long as you keep this stuff coming. Now I want one of those hats and a decal where do I buy them!
Old    DirtyCracker (ghettofab)      Join Date: Aug 2008       05-19-2012, 3:25 PM Reply   
I hope everyone gets the chance to check out lipsmack. We need everyone's help to keep more moving coming. Tell your friends tell everyone. Download the movie and help keep wakeboard movies coming in the future. Because right now it's really hard to make these movies happen.
Old     (simplej)      Join Date: Sep 2011       05-20-2012, 7:13 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by logan View Post
McKee is way more on my radar after Lipsmack, I think I was most impressed by him. Let's all just say what we haven't yet but have all been thinking, this video absolutely destroys DEFY. I liked DEFY I thought it had some cool editing, but it didn't make me want to ride. Videos for me that have done that are: Relentless, The Truth, Push Process and Welcome. Patrick, you have definitely put your name up there with the big boys after this vid, if we can't get any more Justin Stephens videos for awhile, I'm not going to complain as long as you keep this stuff coming. Now I want one of those hats and a decal where do I buy them!
Umm i said it crushes defy in my first post
Old    Logan Downer (logan)      Join Date: Dec 2011       05-20-2012, 10:33 PM Reply   
Old    Russell (wiscxstar)      Join Date: Mar 2002       05-21-2012, 12:25 PM Reply   
I agree, Lipsmack is a great vid! I downloaded it last week and I have watched it several times since then, it is really a refreshing look at wakeboarding.
Old    Jeff Seidenstricker (flydenrict)      Join Date: Nov 2009       05-21-2012, 12:40 PM Reply   
Quote:
McKee is way more on my radar after Lipsmack, I think I was most impressed by him.
I've always liked Jeff McKee and am pumped for his sections in any video that comes out. This summer I'm going to learn his switch and regular shifty back 1's (at least try!)

Did anyone else want to see more Jeff House? I can only recall just a couple clips of him but maybe I'm wrong? His knee was all better during filming right? His wrapped noegrab back 5 is unreal
Old    DirtyCracker (ghettofab)      Join Date: Aug 2008       05-21-2012, 12:59 PM Reply   
Jeff blew out his opposite knee on our second film trip in Knoxville riding behind the big boat you see in the movie.

Really sucked to not have him for the entire filming. He went on one trip to Washington but hes doing better now and getting back on the water.

Jeff Mckee also had back surgery in the middle of filming for lipsmack so he was on the hurt list for a while.

So stoked on all the response so far. Not one bad comment.
Old     (MrPeepers)      Join Date: Aug 2011       05-21-2012, 1:20 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by ghettofab View Post
So stoked on all the response so far. Not one bad comment.
Looks Gouda.
Old    Zach (fgcuwake)      Join Date: Jan 2010       05-21-2012, 3:06 PM Reply   
O dirty cracker, will you tell us who you are beneath your scraggly beard and wife beater? jk but seriously, just curious with all your inside scoops on slingshot.
Old    DirtyCracker (ghettofab)      Join Date: Aug 2008       05-21-2012, 3:24 PM Reply   
@FGCUWake I'm Patrick Wieland. I might of made Lipsmack or something.
Old    Logan Downer (logan)      Join Date: Dec 2011       05-21-2012, 3:31 PM Reply   
^^ still no hats!
Old    DirtyCracker (ghettofab)      Join Date: Aug 2008       05-21-2012, 8:05 PM Reply   
Logan email me. I got you. Patrick@alliancewake.com
Old    David Eggen (dave23)      Join Date: Nov 2006       05-22-2012, 9:58 AM Reply   
What's the ETA for when this might come to Google Play? I want to buy this, but I don't want to go through iTunes or get a physical copy.
Old    DirtyCracker (ghettofab)      Join Date: Aug 2008       05-22-2012, 11:17 AM Reply   
David ill try to find out.

For everyone else interested Slingshot will have Lipsmack Hats, Shirts and other swag up on their site soon. As well as just Slingshot hats.
Old    Justin (newmy79)      Join Date: Jun 2005       05-22-2012, 12:43 PM Reply   
Just watched the film on my lunch break and enjoyed it. Nice job.
Old    Rob (geistwatersportscom)      Join Date: Dec 2006       05-22-2012, 1:50 PM Reply   
Patrick........Great Wakeboard Video.....awesome soundtrack! After watching this several times now I have really committed to get some more "legit" grabs worked into my bag of tricks!
Old    Preston Schenkel (Prestoooooo)      Join Date: Jun 2011       05-22-2012, 2:00 PM Reply   
Did anyone see the orange or blue rads that shredtown and mckee were wearing? Do you think slingshot just made some special edition boots for the riders or do you think they could have dyed them somehow? I watch the video everyday before I ride, or atleast a few parts of it.
Old    DirtyCracker (ghettofab)      Join Date: Aug 2008       05-22-2012, 3:48 PM Reply   
They actually spray painted the RADs different colors. Prestoooo

Thanks Geist and Newmy!
Old    Jeremy Byrom (wakerider111)      Join Date: Jul 2006       05-24-2012, 10:38 PM Reply   
got an email about a premier showing that was titled "Lipstick premier..."
we all make our share of spelling mistakes, but i thought it was great for laughs
Old    Kyle Linsey (kyle_L)      Join Date: Mar 2010       05-26-2012, 4:08 PM Reply   
well DC for all of the years of arguments we had on WS.com, I bow my hat to you buddy!! Well done sir, well done!! Been on a hiatus from riding for the past year or so because of work but it is time to get back out and shred. I cannot believe i am saying this but Patrick Wieland has inspired me!
Old    Adam Silcio (adamsilcio)      Join Date: Oct 2007       05-26-2012, 8:09 PM Reply   
i've watched this movie about 20 times so far.
Old    Zach (fgcuwake)      Join Date: Jan 2010       05-27-2012, 12:11 PM Reply   
kudos patrick! I am responding to your response a few up. I always enjoy your short edits and you were due a full one!
Old    Chris (Frozenwhite)      Join Date: Jun 2011       05-27-2012, 5:02 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by ghettofab View Post
David ill try to find out.

For everyone else interested Slingshot will have Lipsmack Hats, Shirts and other swag up on their site soon. As well as just Slingshot hats.
Will they ship to the UK?

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