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Old    JD (OneMoreSet)      Join Date: Aug 2011       02-22-2012, 8:08 AM Reply   
Considering a 24v/24ssv for my next boat.
I usually like to ride between 21.5-22.

I do have beginners and kids that ride, so wondering at what speed the wake cleans up with varying levels of ballast & wakeplate?
Anyone have pics at varying speeds and ballast?

Also, is the hull of the 242 the same as the 24v/ssv??

Cheers!
Old    Jon Allen (jon_a)      Join Date: Feb 2003       02-22-2012, 8:18 AM Reply   
First, the 242 and 24V/24SSV are different hulls.

On the 24V/SSV, the wake will clean up with no ballast at around 21.5 mph. Keep in mind that the wake with no ballast is still REALLY nice. Wakeplate should probably be around 50%, depending on the rider preferences. As you add more ballast, the more you will need to speed up. With full stock ballast (nearly 2000 lbs), you will need to run at around 23 mph for a clean wake. You can play with the plate a bit to tweak it some but I like it around 60% when the ballast is completely full.

The 242 is a whole different beast as far as getting the wake set up. I will say that loaded with around 2500 lbs, it is definitely one of my top 3 wakes. Plus it surfs amazing!
Old    Diggs (pdxWAKE) (tyler97217)      Join Date: Aug 2004       02-22-2012, 9:22 AM Reply   
What Jon said!!!
Old    BLAIR BARHAM (jonblarc7)      Join Date: Jul 2006       02-22-2012, 9:29 AM Reply   
+2^^^^
Old    Mark (FunkyBunch)      Join Date: Jun 2011       02-22-2012, 9:33 AM Reply   
What Jon said x3

IMO generally Supra's no matter the size take a little more speed than others to clean up and they are more weight sensitive as well.
Old    JD (OneMoreSet)      Join Date: Aug 2011       02-22-2012, 11:12 AM Reply   
Thanks for the input guys!
Jon, looks like youve got a great handle on these hulls and wakes..

How does the 24v handle weight - is it fairly scalable - does the shape change a whole lot with weight or does it just get bigger.
How is the 24v for surfing? I take it not as good as the 242..

I didnt realize that the 24v was a whole lot different than the 242 -thanks for pointing that out.
What are some of the difference in characteristics in the two wake boarding wise - size, shape, etc

I'm looking for a really solid wakeboard wake - something that has great shape - I prefer more rampy and long transition, but not "super" mellow..

Budget doesnt allow for new, so i'm looking at '05+ 24ssv, 05+ vlx & lsv, old SAN (abit too vert for my pref though), x1, new 07 SAN (210) - decisions, decisions. One drawback on the 24v is its "big" especially for towing around and jaming it on my driveway!

Thanks for all the help!
Old    Mark (FunkyBunch)      Join Date: Jun 2011       02-22-2012, 11:48 AM Reply   
The 2008 is the oldest review I can find on a 24ssv. I think but am not sure that it is the same hull as 05. There should be some good reading there for you. The section titled The Wake, and the pictures should be a decent idea of what your looking at.
http://wakeboardingmag.com/boats/200...h-24-ssv-2008/


Same for a 2008 LSV
http://wakeboardingmag.com/boats/200...r-23-lsv-2008/
Old    BLAIR BARHAM (jonblarc7)      Join Date: Jul 2006       02-22-2012, 12:10 PM Reply   
I own a 06 24v

The more people and ballast you add the bigger it gets. It is more of a rampy transition but there's nothing mellow about it.

Wakesurf wake is good with just 750 in the back corner.

When running beginers, that just barely can jump I leave the front 1100 sac full and put the wake plate all the way down. This lets me pull them right around 21.5 with a clean wake that is more than most can handle.
Old    Kevin Kimball (Kjkimball)      Join Date: Mar 2011       02-22-2012, 3:17 PM Reply   
I have a 242 and in one year, we put 300hrs on it. We have kids that have progressed from beginners to a point where the tricks are starting to come to them. We wakeboard, wake skate and wake surf with the 242. We can have a nice clean wake at 65 off and 18mph and no ballast using the plate to set it. We can also have a fantastic wake at 85 off 24.5mph and 2500lb water in the boat. We have had 9 people, 60 gal fuel and 2400lb in it and with the stock prop and the 340 engine, 31 seconds to plane. I switched to the TZ5 5 blade prop from OJ and instantly dropped the fully loaded time to 24.5 to 16 seconds! Half the time. Great prop and we get better mid range fuel economy too. For surfing, we run 750 in the rear and does well for riders 165lb or less on a variety of boards. For 200-220lb riders, we need more weight like 6 bodies in the boat on that side to get a good wave. Next week the 750s come out and 1100s go in so we can have better surf wakes without a full boat. We often ride with just the family of 4. With the 1100s, we will run 1100 on the surf side, 400 other side, 700-800 center. This will get same attitude of the boat but stretch the wave a bit from what we have now. Our lakes are shallow, 8-15ft everywhere, so we have to contend with wave/bottom interference. Half of us ride goofy, half regular so it is great to have the programable dash to change fast.

Feel free to hit me up for any more 242 questions you may have.
Old    Jon Allen (jon_a)      Join Date: Feb 2003       02-22-2012, 5:15 PM Reply   
Onemoreset,

I have spent quite a bit of time behind and in both a 242 and 24ssv.

The 24V surfs good. We ran a 750 on the surf side and the front full at around 11 mph. It was a great wake but fairly steep. I personally like the 242 better because the pocket is longer and more mellow. It is actually my favorite surf wake and I have ridden behind A LOT of boats. However, the 242 does require more weight.

Both the 24v and 242 have a longer transition for the wakeboard wake, with the 242 being a little longer. Both still have that signature Supra kick at the top. Both wakes are really big when loaded. I've never heard a complaint on either wake when set up correctly.

We run our boats pretty heavy but here our setups for a really nice wake (note that these boats don't need this much weight but we have some pretty good riders in our crew that likes the little extra) both for the 24V and 242:

24V-stock front 1150 lb bag full, 750's on both sides of the engine, 300 lbs of lead under the bow seats, and a 500 lb bag in the floor in front of the rear seat (when we didnt have a lot of people in the boat). Ran at 24.2 mph, wakeplate at 50%, 80 ft rope.

242-1150 lb long bags on each side of the engine, 150 lbs of lead on each side of the engine furthest toward the back as possible, and the hard tank full in the middle. We ran the plate at 25% at 24.5 mph with 82.5 ft rope length. If I were to do it over, I would run Enzo sacks on both sides of the engine and then fill both the hard tank and bag in the playpen.

The 24V is big but one thing it will do that the other boats you named won't...that is the rough water ride. The other boats you named will beat you to death in chop but the 24 V handles it really well, especially with the adjustability of the wakeplate.
Old    MD (monroeyd)      Join Date: Jun 2006       02-22-2012, 10:26 PM Reply   
We have an '06. 40/60 weight ratio works good. Our typical setup is center 1150 full, 450 in bow lead and water, back sacs full enough to get platform
just under water port side and at water level starboard (500 lbs each side), plate all the way up, 23 mph, at 80'. Wake is pretty good. Gotta watch the nose though. Towing's not too bad.

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