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Old    Bevan (stxr_racer)      Join Date: Jun 2006       07-08-2011, 11:03 PM Reply   
Here's a vid of my lil man working on his TS5. Just wanting some critique on his cut, body position, take off, handle position and timing of rotation, along with some feed back on what he needs to work on to land this trick. Looks like he's already off axis before starting his rotation

Sorry for the poor quality...was shot with a crappy point & shoot on a rainy day.

Old    Peter T (deltawake)      Join Date: Sep 2004       07-09-2011, 8:32 AM Reply   
It looks to me like he is leaving the wake early. This causes him to maintain that same axis in the air which keeps him off axis for his spin. On a positive note, it doesn't look like he is spinning off the wake. i.e. he waits until he is in the air to initiate his spin.
His body position is very straight up and down as he approaches the wake, and the handle position appears pretty high. That's another factor that keeps him off axis when he pulls to initiate the spin.
I would suggest coming into the wake with knees bent a lot more. Push off the top of the wake, and keep the handle low.
Watch the video at about :33 seconds where he does the toeside jump. He comes off the wake with the wrong axis, which he is able to correct in the air by lowering the handle and bringing his knees up. He still lands flat, tending towards heel heavy, instead of landing on his toe edge.
If he could approach the wake with knees bent and handle lower, spring off the top of the wake, keep the handle low- never above the waist, he'll be landing that in no time. After he lands it, these same fundamentals will make it easier to start grabbing it.
Old    Andrew Proses (drewproses)      Join Date: Oct 2008       07-09-2011, 9:50 AM Reply   
All he needs to do is get his front (right) hand back on handle for the landing, this will finish his rotation. On every attempt after the handle pass, his right arm goes up in the air rather than reaching for the handle. Have him practice toeside frontside 180s before attempting the 5. He will stomp this trick very soon!
Old    Andy Nintzel-NautiCurl Wake Shaper (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       07-09-2011, 10:06 AM Reply   
Good Points here so far. Getting the right hand on the rope is good and good training to take the 5 to 7.

I would also add that he is taking his head out of the spin early, he is spotting his landing at 360, this is causing his hips to stop rotating. The lack of hip rotating is why he is muscling around the spin so much. If you can get you head, shoulders, and hips into a spin you money. If you look at the vids his head and shoulders are spinning faster than his hips once he gets the 360 mark, that's because he is spotting his landing early. I had this problem going from TS 540 to TS 720. You have to think about the 540 as a 540 not a 360 with another 180 at the end, this will help loads. Tell him to try and just jump onthe ground (not the water) and do a 540, if you spot your landing at 360 jumping on the ground your rotation is done instantly. This will force him to think 540 instead of 360, all he needs to do then is apply this rotation to the water. I hpe this helps and makes sense. When I was learning ts 7s I would spot my landing at 540 then try and muscle the last 180 around. Finally a buddy of mine who is a pro snowboarder, pointed that out to me and said keep your head in the spin, think 720 not 540+180. I landed the next one i tried!

Good luck, post some videos of him stomping that thing.


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