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Old    Chris Butler (xistential)      Join Date: Jul 2007       05-05-2011, 1:09 AM Reply   
Well Best of Luck to all the other riders that still need to be picked up Tino, Nicola, and Randall

Yeah Dave, and to Justin and his family.

BTW,does anybody know where Tino is and what he is doing??
Old    Matt (MattieK27)      Join Date: Mar 2010       05-05-2011, 6:57 AM Reply   
So let me get this straight, Company is done? Does this effect Remote at all? (Since it was a branch of Company?)
Old    the not so naked chef (electricsnow)      Join Date: May 2002       05-05-2011, 8:12 AM Reply   
Remote is now separate and they're doing their own thing.
Old    mojo            05-05-2011, 8:38 AM Reply   
Nicola will get picked up. She's an amazing rider. Randall will too. Tino IMO, dropped off in his prime for one reason or another. I love his style though and he's a super cool dude so hopefully he finds a home too. I'd imagine there's only a few brands to choose from though bc even if offered a contract by liquid, or any other Kent brands the sour taste is probably still going to be there. I'd like to see them all on ronix.
Old    Chris Butler (xistential)      Join Date: Jul 2007       05-05-2011, 9:18 AM Reply   
I heard back in January already that the Ronix products were selling amazingly well. They don't seem to be affected by all this patent nonsense. Hope it makes them even bigger. Competition is healthy. It stops companies from being complacent and treating their customers like cr@p.

That's why airlines can afford to treat you so badly. You gonna drive 2000 miles in an afternoon??
Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       05-05-2011, 10:51 AM Reply   
I heard Vandall was going Byerly, but that was months ago, and last weekend he still had a Company board in the rack. I'm guessing it didn't go through, or is taking longer than expected. IMO he's a good fit for the Byerly team. He's an OG, just like Byerly himself, and adding Randall would create a diverse team by adding the go-huge west coast style.
Old    Dave (daveronix199)      Join Date: Feb 2009       05-05-2011, 8:18 PM Reply   
Chris Probably does know what is going on with Nicola.. Hands down ... But sometimes you just cant leak that stuff.... Besides... She is one of the best female riders in the world... She will get pick up soon if she already hasn't...
Old    Brian Wynn (quik876)      Join Date: Mar 2010       05-05-2011, 9:14 PM Reply   
While @ Wake Games last weekend, I tried catching a glimpse of what Nicola was riding but couldn't catch it so not sure what the deal is. But I hope this whole S**t business is moving forward rather than bogging everyone down like it has been for the past 8 months or so. It IS gettin' pretty rediculous with all the "speculation" that's been goin' on.
Old    shane mckenna (mckenna)      Join Date: Mar 2008       05-05-2011, 11:08 PM Reply   
wer'nt the company team also working on a movie?

guess wel never see that.
Old    mojo            05-06-2011, 8:17 AM Reply   
Supposedly ronix(square 1) is doing multiple millions in sales annually
Old    Ben Ax (hawkeye7708)      Join Date: Feb 2007       05-06-2011, 9:08 AM Reply   
Shane,

The video was going to be called "Good Company" if I remember right.
Old    Forrest (wazzy)      Join Date: Nov 2001       05-06-2011, 9:56 AM Reply   
>>I heard Vandall was going Byerly<<
That would be sick if Company does go down. Another good choice would be Phalanx (Ricky G's board company). OR rebuild that Gator team from a few years back.....
Old    Kat Laird (wakekat15)      Join Date: Jul 2005       05-06-2011, 10:13 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by quik876 View Post
While @ Wake Games last weekend, I tried catching a glimpse of what Nicola was riding but couldn't catch it so not sure what the deal is. But I hope this whole S**t business is moving forward rather than bogging everyone down like it has been for the past 8 months or so. It IS gettin' pretty rediculous with all the "speculation" that's been goin' on.
You guys may be able to tell what board it is by the shape; this is what she was riding @ Wake Games.
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Old    Jeremy (jsweat)      Join Date: Apr 2007       05-06-2011, 10:56 AM Reply   
it looks like the liquid force wittness/jett shapes
Old    Jeremy (jsweat)      Join Date: Apr 2007       05-06-2011, 10:56 AM Reply   
that would be a slap in the face to justin to go straight to liquid force as they are the ones putting company out of business
Old    Mathias (mathias)      Join Date: Mar 2009       05-06-2011, 10:59 AM Reply   
yes that is definitely a witness or jett
Old    Dave (daveronix199)      Join Date: Feb 2009       05-06-2011, 9:04 PM Reply   
At the end of the day it's all about money... I'm sure Every single one of you would take a sponsorship from LF
Old    Kat Laird (wakekat15)      Join Date: Jul 2005       05-07-2011, 6:14 AM Reply   
You are probably right, Dave...but, if LF was sponsoring her, I'm sure the graphics would not have been painted over. Perhaps they plan to, but haven't inked the deal yet?!? What kind of bindings are those?
Old    Brian Deegan (irishrider92)      Join Date: Jun 2009       05-07-2011, 7:25 AM Reply   
They kinda look like the Co. Pro's from last year
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       05-07-2011, 7:43 AM Reply   
Sure looks like a Witness to me. Has me thinking being that its all blacked out maybe Nicola is just riding that board but has not inked a deal yet and she just sprayed it black.
Old    Chris Butler (xistential)      Join Date: Jul 2007       05-07-2011, 10:23 AM Reply   
As far as Justin goes, in spite of the problems he was facing, he did everything he could to find homes for his team riders. Huge respect and admiration for that, as self preservation is normally peoples number one priority when the roof is caving in. I don't think anybody involved with Company is going to willingly "slap him in the face" so to speak.
Old    Dave (daveronix199)      Join Date: Feb 2009       05-08-2011, 8:17 PM Reply   
Or Nicola is on a prototype board... Most prototypes are just a fiberglass deck with no graphic..
Old    Alex Yermolenko (alexair)      Join Date: Oct 2008       05-09-2011, 8:27 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by daveronix199 View Post
I'm sure Every single one of you would take a sponsorship from LF
It isn't the best your thought about people
Old     (hyperliterider90)      Join Date: May 2010       05-15-2011, 9:56 PM Reply   
how is the 2009 recruit board and the 2009 company co bindings? (the one with the lace garage)
Old    WaterBullDawg (WaterBullDawg)      Join Date: Mar 2010       05-27-2011, 9:54 PM Reply   
Well, I guess it is finally official, unless I missed it somewhere else.

You guys following them on Twitter?

Out of the horses mouth Company Wake "had to officially wind things down in March of this year".....

Sucks.... Been hearing the rumors since last year...
Old    Brian Deegan (irishrider92)      Join Date: Jun 2009       05-28-2011, 5:26 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by hyperliterider90 View Post
how is the 2009 recruit board and the 2009 company co bindings? (the one with the lace garage)
I rode the bindings last year and liked them. Held up pretty well too and only broke after quite a crash.
Old    WaterBullDawg (WaterBullDawg)      Join Date: Mar 2010       05-28-2011, 6:33 AM Reply   
I never had a chance to ride in their gear but heard nothing but good things about it. It is definitely another sign of how tough of a racket this industry is to break into. They had vets running the show over there, had decent riders, a cool and solid upcoming brand, but couldn't get it to work for one reason or another. I am sure some of it was internal, but you can bet that competing against the giants had something to do with it as well.

Wish all of them the best.
Old    Adam Levitt (alevitt)      Join Date: Aug 2006       05-29-2011, 11:19 AM Reply   
Here's the Twitter feed pieced together from the other night.

"The last 4-5 years for me has been life changing. These 4-5 years didn't roll out exactly the way I originally intended, however in the end they actually turned out for the better. These years brought me my time with @companywake, and @remotewkskates ... Two of my largest accomplishments of my career. The reason why though is because of the people that came together for these brands...Inside and out. There were a lot of people that gained, broke even, and lost because they rolled the dice with me on these projects / brands. And regardless of how things rolled out, these people collectively are my heroes. Due to conditions outside of my/our control, we had to officially wind things down with @companywake in March this year. However @remotewkskates continues to operate under the direction of Silas Thurman & Ben Horan, and are in better hands than ever before. I fought hard for @companywake. Harder than anything I have ever fought for. Having unfinished business/vision for the brand has been hard. Pretty much lost everything. Here's the things though, I believe we made a dent, and the people involved in @companywake will continue to innovate in their own ways. You will continue to see the effects of the vision and hustle through these people, but just in different ways. I really believe that. These people have inspired me to keep my head up. To push forward. To stay close to my passions. So to everyone out there reading this, who loved and supported @companywake ... I thank you. You have all changed me, inspired me, and made me better... #grateful. Whats next? Good question I will def keep you all posted as making things right and moving forward is #onthebrainconstantly #FF Round 2: @remotewkskates @SlingshotWake @Logosz1 @Ronix. Thank you all for listening to me rant tonight. Have a great weekend. #loveyouall."

True class, in my books. We need more people in wakeboarding like Justin Stephens. Hell, the world needs more people like Justin Stephens.
Old    Dwight Kinley (beretta5spd)      Join Date: Jan 2010       05-29-2011, 4:12 PM Reply   
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True class, in my books. We need more people in wakeboarding like Justin Stephens. Hell, the world needs more people like Justin Stephens.
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Old    Nick Schrein (wakeboardern1)      Join Date: Aug 2007       05-29-2011, 5:02 PM Reply   
After this whole fiasco, I really wish that I had grabbed a Company board and at least tried it.
Old    Justin Lamoureux (lives2wake)      Join Date: Apr 2002       05-29-2011, 7:20 PM Reply   
Loved Company Wake's products from day one and began repping for them when WakeWorld posted that they were looking for help. Thank you Justin for your putting trust in some random guy from Canada. It was a lot of fun working with you and the rest of the Co. crew. All the best in your future endeavors.
Old    Josh Robinson (sideswipeproductions)      Join Date: Jun 2009       05-29-2011, 7:41 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by alevitt View Post
True class, in my books. We need more people in wakeboarding like Justin Stephens. Hell, the world needs more people like Justin Stephens.
No doubt.
Old     (hyperliterider90)      Join Date: May 2010       05-29-2011, 9:38 PM Reply   
just wondering but is gator in this too? their website has their 2011 boards up but there is noway to purchase them
Old    Jeremy Byrom (wakerider111)      Join Date: Jul 2006       05-29-2011, 10:39 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by hyperliterider90 View Post
just wondering but is gator in this too? their website has their 2011 boards up but there is noway to purchase them
Don't think Gator got hit
the-house.com caries a good supply of Gator
i love the looks and style of Gator boots for some reason.

speaking of boots and moving back to Company. i thought thier hardware connection was one of the most innovative things to hit boots in a while. they truly were the best at preventing the most amount of heel lift of the boot itself (based on a hands-on test at a boat show). also the way they allowed the boot to be placed almost anywhere was neat too. only way to have made them better i think was to make the teeth in the tracks durable for life. metal and or larger teeth. hopefully someone can make hardware just as effective. Co. was on to something with that one IMO
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       05-30-2011, 8:09 AM Reply   
I got an official press release about 2 months ago that Company was closing up shop. I wish that I could have posted it, in fact I did, then I have Mr. Williams immedialty remove my post as I decided it was not my place to blow the whistle on Company. I feel super bad for the team and Justin. Good Luck to all those involved.
Old    mojo            05-30-2011, 8:33 AM Reply   
You're so cool. We all wish we could be like Andy. Shut up and go ride
Old    Matt (MattieK27)      Join Date: Mar 2010       05-30-2011, 1:23 PM Reply   
Reading through this thread, the history of wakeboarding from various articles, and hearing comments from people in the industry, I can never again bring myself to support anything under the Kent umbrella. (Hyperlite, CWB, Byerly, Liquid Force, Obrien, etc) Their strong arm tactics are hardly unique in the business world, yet it seems different in the close knit industry of wakeboarding. These types of moves hinder creativity and ingenuity, both short term and long term.

Hopefully the team that ran Company can land on their feet. Unfortunately, another Kent alternative is gone...
Old    Nick Schrein (wakeboardern1)      Join Date: Aug 2007       05-30-2011, 2:06 PM Reply   
Mojo, that was incredibly unnecessary. Wow.
Old    DEFIANT Wake (DEFIANTwake)      Join Date: Jan 2011       05-30-2011, 2:58 PM Reply   
"True class, in my books. We need more people in wakeboarding like Justin Stephens. Hell, the world needs more people like Justin Stephens. "

Adam you hit the nail on the head there.
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       05-30-2011, 3:07 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by mojo View Post
You're so cool. We all wish we could be like Andy. Shut up and go ride
That's great that you think I am cool, I think I am pretty cool. And if you want to be like me you just need to eat right, work out and wakeboard a lot. Thanks for the kind words. Your a true class act. And for what its worth I have been riding all day, since My last post in this thread, ahh modern technology you can blog from you boat! How Neat. Keep it up Mojo some day you will be as cool as me.
Old    Adam Levitt (alevitt)      Join Date: Aug 2006       05-30-2011, 3:21 PM Reply   
It also appears we will get more details about what happened. More from Justin's Twitter feed:

"Working on a personal statement to kick out to everyone about @companywake's status. This is something that I have tried to do multiple times, but have not been at liberty to do for technical / legal reasons. So instead of it coming from the business, it will come from me personally... #workingonitnow"

And for what it's worth Andy, I thought your post came across as a little "cool guy" as well. Lives2Wake would have had the same info as you and me, but it didn't come across as Mr Know-it-All. Just my $0.02
Old    BIZZ (bizz)      Join Date: Jun 2008       05-30-2011, 3:41 PM Reply   
I would like to personally thank everyone who supported Company. I know I personally worked extremely hard to get Company to where it was, and Justin worked 100 times harder. We had a great crew of people that I was extremely blessed to be able to work with. Unfortunately like Justin said we had a lot of ideas for innovation that never got to surface. We worked hard to make the best product possible for THE RIDERS. Thank you again for everyone who supported us or had kind words for the work we put in. It means a lot to all of us.

Jaret Brantley
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       05-30-2011, 7:04 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by alevitt View Post
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And for what it's worth Andy, I thought your post came across as a little "cool guy" as well. Lives2Wake would have had the same info as you and me, but it didn't come across as Mr Know-it-All. Just my $0.02
THNKs Man I really was not trying to come off that way.
Old    Mark Griffin (cheesydog)      Join Date: Mar 2009       05-30-2011, 7:21 PM Reply   
good lord stop bitching people, I dont think there was anything wrong with Andy's post at all

Anyways, yea this whole saga leaves a bad taste in the mouth, Company was ramping up to launch some killer products this season and it literally is a crime that they were not able to get the product out due to BS lawsuits, patent infringements my ass...

good luck to all the Company crew, hope we see some more innovation from them wherever they choose to go from here.
Old     (hyperliterider90)      Join Date: May 2010       05-31-2011, 3:30 PM Reply   
Im about to buy the 2009 company boots as i found them online for $148. I heard they run small because of the liners.. should I go with a size 11 if i normally wear a 9.5/10 ?
Old    Russell Lowry (somebuddy)      Join Date: Jun 2009       06-20-2011, 2:02 PM Reply   
Has Company come out with an official statement yet? The website still looks the same to me. This whole thing really pisses me off.
Old    nEwJ_HoSeR (tinytdubb)      Join Date: Jul 2007       06-20-2011, 4:07 PM Reply   
Its a shame if they truly are closing up shop. They had some creative marketing. I remember when R. Harris left Gator for Co. It was like Derek Jeter going to the Red Sox or something.
Old    shane mckenna (mckenna)      Join Date: Mar 2008       06-20-2011, 4:14 PM Reply   
bring on the team movie anyways... surely there is enough footage for some youtube vids atleast.
Old    A-dub (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       06-20-2011, 4:31 PM Reply   
Official statements seem to come from twitter. Posts further up the page should answer your question.
Old    Adrock (Moose99)      Join Date: Jun 2011       06-20-2011, 6:47 PM Reply   
It sounds like all of their riders have got new board sponsors except Randal. Does anybody know what he's going to do?
Old    gangstar (joe_crawley)      Join Date: Jan 2007       06-20-2011, 7:00 PM Reply   
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It sounds like all of their riders have got new board sponsors except Randal. Does anybody know what he's going to do?
wait, when did Nicola get picked up and by who?
Old     (apf)      Join Date: Dec 2010       06-20-2011, 7:27 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by somebuddy View Post
Has Company come out with an official statement yet? The website still looks the same to me. This whole thing really pisses me off.
this was from last month..
http://www.sbcwakeboard.com/news_article?news_id=627v
Old    Russell Lowry (somebuddy)      Join Date: Jun 2009       06-21-2011, 8:59 AM Reply   
Where is Tony Finn? Where is Liquid Force? Are they not going to defend themselves? Are they really the evil empire? Everything I read points to... "Yes!" I am not buying or supporting anything from that company or the parent company if all of the allegations are true and if they don't have the decency to step up and state why they did what they did.
Old    Jeremy Byrom (wakerider111)      Join Date: Jul 2006       06-21-2011, 9:20 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by somebuddy View Post
Where is Tony Finn? Where is Liquid Force? Are they not going to defend themselves? Are they really the evil empire? Everything I read points to... "Yes!" I am not buying or supporting anything from that company or the parent company if all of the allegations are true and if they don't have the decency to step up and state why they did what they did.
or rather why they went about it the way they did to specify the question to get better results than... "we (they) have a right to protect intellectual property" or something to that extent

I am actually quite surprised at how different each brand is under the Kent umbrella. its like a king who has allowed his several sons to rule individual parts of his land the way they want (and one son is particularly prideful) ... or an apple tree that produces multiple colors and flavors of apples. kinda impressive but kinda odd. i don't understand the details and politics of it all though.

but like you i tend to shy away from it too
Old    A-dub (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       06-21-2011, 9:50 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by wakerider111 View Post
or rather why they went about it the way they did to specify the question to get better results than... "we (they) have a right to protect intellectual property" or something to that extent

I am actually quite surprised at how different each brand is under the Kent umbrella. its like a king who has allowed his several sons to rule individual parts of his land the way they want (and one son is particularly prideful) ... or an apple tree that produces multiple colors and flavors of apples. kinda impressive but kinda odd. i don't understand the details and politics of it all though.

but like you i tend to shy away from it too
there are plenty of businesses, organizations and corporations that run that way. All report in general to one body, but they are free to go about their business as they see fit so long as it doesn't jeopardize any of the other "units". Some are called SBU's, some are called totally different companies.

This is business. Patents get upheld, and anyone with a patent has the right to make sure it is not infringed upon, and if it is, then they can seek damages. This is the daily world in most industries, you file patents and you make sure the product you're designing does not infringe upon current or pending patents. Patents also pressure for further technological advancement, because you're supposed to design around a patent, not outright copy it. Hence the major increase in non-CC Flight Control Tower type towers, they do not fall under CC's tower patent.
Old    Joel Fields (2010Axis)      Join Date: Jul 2011       04-13-2012, 12:14 PM Reply   
Slingshot Wakeboards = Made In USA! Keep your $200K in our own country LF!
Old    Jordan Maxymek (Jmaxymek)      Join Date: Feb 2012       04-13-2012, 5:24 PM Reply   
That was quite an impressive bump!
Old    Henry Gates (captain_vilfo)      Join Date: Apr 2007       04-13-2012, 5:55 PM Reply   
no this thread needs to die.
Old    Logan Downer (logan)      Join Date: Dec 2011       04-13-2012, 6:32 PM Reply   
close it down.
Old    Justin Lamoureux (lives2wake)      Join Date: Apr 2002       04-14-2012, 2:10 PM Reply   
I had never seen those pictures of the bindings on page 5...wish I could rock a pair of those on water.
Old    DC (durty_curt)      Join Date: Apr 2008       04-14-2012, 2:24 PM Reply   
Holy cow those are cool! reminds me of the black n white air Jordans
Old    Logan Downer (logan)      Join Date: Dec 2011       04-14-2012, 6:02 PM Reply   
Can we please cancel this thread! We don't need to be tortured by what we can't have!

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