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Old    SamIngram            07-29-2010, 5:49 PM Reply   
We almost always have room.
Old    SamIngram            07-29-2010, 5:59 PM Reply   
We almost always have room.
Old    Tyler Coleman (ineedaboat)      Join Date: Jul 2010       08-01-2010, 5:57 PM Reply   
im trying to get on the water to board. hit me up if you have room. got gas money for you Tyler 480 202 6872
Old    Tyler Coleman (ineedaboat)      Join Date: Jul 2010       08-06-2010, 12:22 PM Reply   
anyone going tomorrow?
Old    SamIngram            08-06-2010, 7:13 PM Reply   
Yes...
Old    Tyler Coleman (ineedaboat)      Join Date: Jul 2010       08-08-2010, 10:20 PM Reply   
Shoot me a text sam
Old    Brian Johnsen (jlift)      Join Date: Sep 2009       08-11-2010, 5:04 PM Reply   
I'm going out Friday morning to lake pleasant text me if your intrested (623) 236 4121. Boat rules apply. Getting there around 8 am getting off the water when the water gets to choppy. I dont have a wake boat but it does put out a OK wake. 21 ft I/O
Old    Spencer L (r37116)      Join Date: May 2009       08-11-2010, 7:52 PM Reply   
Anyone hitting Canyon or Saguaro early early? 5am? I'm game. Have my own gear and top $ gas money. Spencer text 480-239-5846
Old    Mike Capuzzo (cccbuilders)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-17-2010, 7:13 AM Reply   
http://www.marinemax.com/Page.aspx/p...-Calendar.aspx
Old    Mike Capuzzo (cccbuilders)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-17-2010, 7:14 AM Reply   
oops i forgot..... Dustin and Marine Max launch Malibu!
Old    mcbean7            08-18-2010, 10:50 AM Reply   
Did Action Watersports lose Malibu?
Old    Mike Capuzzo (cccbuilders)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-18-2010, 2:17 PM Reply   
yup
Old    rodney (azwakekid)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-18-2010, 9:22 PM Reply   
i hope marine max hired a couple of the guys from paradise. oh and r.i.p. mastercraft boats of az. u fought a good fight.

also please support your local boat shop. they need our help. i personally like century marine. and u should too

Last edited by azwakekid; 08-18-2010 at 9:27 PM. Reason: i forgot something
Old    Mike Capuzzo (cccbuilders)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-19-2010, 9:03 AM Reply   
i "heard" mc is moving back to their old building..........and marine max is "i heard" hiring some boys back.
Old    SamIngram            08-19-2010, 3:20 PM Reply   
Hey All,
Does anyone want to get a camping trip going to Bartlett or Apache in the near future? I prefer Bartlett. Let me know what you think.

Ryan
Old    rodney (azwakekid)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-19-2010, 6:57 PM Reply   
well thats good that we are not losing another dealer. it always bums me out to hear people are losing there jobs. and im glad marine max will be getting some knowledge in there service department.
Old    Mike Capuzzo (cccbuilders)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-20-2010, 6:30 AM Reply   
Bartlett's water level has gotta drop to get a great camping spot.......as soon as its down we'll be out there camping. Apache always open too....
Old    SamIngram            08-20-2010, 9:07 AM Reply   
Nah.... there are tons of camping spots, even more so if you take the boat to the other side of the lake or up river...
Old    Carl (SugarFree)      Join Date: Aug 2010       08-20-2010, 4:04 PM Reply   
Hello,

Just moved to Phoenix. I would gladly join anyone next time they are going out (i'm a full time student so i have a pretty open schedule). Have $ for gas, will bring beer (if u want), and have my own gear. My dad's got a seadoo boat but it produces the smallest wake ever, and i'm the only one who wakeboards in the family. Itd be great to meet some other wakeboarders, learn some new stuff, and have an all around good time. Thanks for the read, hope to hear from some of you soon.

Carl
Old    SamIngram            08-26-2010, 11:34 AM Reply   
If anyone wants to go this Saturday we have room. Split the cost of gas and food...

- We will leave my house at either 5 or 6 AM (we decide the night before based on weather).
- We stop at the gas station to fill up the truck and boat and then at the grocery store to buy food and drinks.
- Once we get to the lake we will wakeboard till it gets choppy and rough.
- We take a long lunch (sometimes 4-5 hours) eat, hike, swim, etc... lately we have been anchoring by the ramps to watch the entertainment during lunch.
- When the water starts to calm down we then wakeboard till dark or till we run out of gas.
- We wipe down and clean the boat, usually in the dark.
- On the way home we usually stop someplace in Cave Creek, lately it's been The Hideaway, they have great burgers and the cougar hunting is always fun.
- We usually get home late, anywhere from 9-12... We don't do half days and won't drop your butt off at the dock early unless we make you walk the plank... in that case you better have your own life jacket.

Charlie don't surf and neither do we! The boat is an '06 SAN with either stock ballast or with Big Bertha and the Twins on board which frightens some people!
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Old    SamIngram            08-27-2010, 10:09 AM Reply   
Hey! I made the website!
Old    Carl (SugarFree)      Join Date: Aug 2010       08-27-2010, 3:31 PM Reply   
Sam,

I just PM'd you with my info.
Old    SamIngram            08-30-2010, 1:35 PM Reply   
Carl came with us this week... how about a review Carl?
Old    Jeff (Jester327)      Join Date: Aug 2010       08-31-2010, 12:48 AM Reply   
Let me know if anyone needs an extra body on their boat for wakeboarding. I would go out every week if i could find people to go with, so hit me up! email me at jzitsch@yahoo.com. I check it every day. I got my own board vest and rope so no worries there.
Old    Brian Johnsen (jlift)      Join Date: Sep 2009       08-31-2010, 11:53 PM Reply   
Sam(aka Ryan)
Nice job on the mention at century!

Everyone else I'm trying to get a crew together for this Friday at pleasant I get there around 800 to 830 ish and usally get off the lake around 11 or 12. I dont have a wake boat but my boat puts out a decent wake when its loaded m(21 ft open bow I/O) txt me if your intrested 623 236 4121
Old    Chris Metzner (lc47)      Join Date: Jul 2010       09-04-2010, 12:23 PM Reply   
Anybody hit Pleasant up during the week? I live 10 minutes from the lake and would like to do some more mid week Pleasant riding. If so hit me up, willing to cover gas, clean exct, you would also be welcome out at my Bartlett sessions.
Old    Carl (SugarFree)      Join Date: Aug 2010       09-07-2010, 8:29 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by SamIngram View Post
Carl came with us this week... how about a review Carl?

Sorry for the lag on this.

Review:

Fun times all around... from the grocery store in the morning till we got back to your house at the end of the day. It was awesome. I'm a new wakeboarder and the first thing we did was take off my huge fins and by the end of the day i was getting some air, surface tricks, fixed most of the bad habits I had from teaching myself how to wakeboard. I wouldn't have been able to do it without the help of the whole crew. Its been a long time since I've had that much fun. Now I wish people would stop planning my Saturdays for me so I can go out with these guys again. Hoping within the next couple of weeks. Easy enough to follow boat rules, throw some cash down for food and gas, help out with cleaning, and you'll guaranteed to have a great day..

P.S. Sam's boat (correct craft SAN) throws a awesome wake... not that i'd know what to do with it yet... haha
Old    Carl (SugarFree)      Join Date: Aug 2010       09-07-2010, 8:34 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by jlift View Post
Sam(aka Ryan)
Nice job on the mention at century!

Everyone else I'm trying to get a crew together for this Friday at pleasant I get there around 800 to 830 ish and usally get off the lake around 11 or 12. I dont have a wake boat but my boat puts out a decent wake when its loaded m(21 ft open bow I/O) txt me if your intrested 623 236 4121

Please post again if your going out again... i'd gladly join, I would have contacted you about last Friday but unfortunately I was out of town. i'm good for $, help clean, whatever's needed. Plus I live right by Pleasant. Thanks
Old    SamIngram            09-08-2010, 9:41 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by jlift View Post
Sam(aka Ryan)
Nice job on the mention at century!

Everyone else I'm trying to get a crew together for this Friday at pleasant I get there around 800 to 830 ish and usally get off the lake around 11 or 12. I dont have a wake boat but my boat puts out a decent wake when its loaded m(21 ft open bow I/O) txt me if your intrested 623 236 4121
Don't forget I still have that wetsuit thing of yours!
Old    Tyler Nichols (tylernchls)      Join Date: Mar 2010       09-09-2010, 1:41 PM Reply   
Hey guys,

if anyone is riding during the week or weekend at bartlett or any other local lakes here in phoenix let me know. Im always down to shredd whenever

call or text me

Tyler 616-723-1439
Old    SamIngram            09-10-2010, 8:31 AM Reply   
We will have room... we currently have 3 or 4... let me know if you want to come... See description above the picture for details...
Old    Tyler Coleman (ineedaboat)      Join Date: Jul 2010       09-20-2010, 12:04 PM Reply   
any early morning durning the week canyon people? I need a pull. got gas and down to clean. tylerattuninggruppe@gmail.com
Old    Carl (SugarFree)      Join Date: Aug 2010       10-01-2010, 1:14 PM Reply   
We're going out Saturday to Bartlett all day.

if u wanna join hit me up

9542058793
Old    Aaron Henry (Slideways)      Join Date: Apr 2010       10-09-2010, 12:08 PM Reply   
Ok guys, the Scottsdale wake and surf meetup thing is shut down, so I need to find others to ride with.

9196190748

Aaron, Thanks!
Old    SamIngram            11-09-2010, 3:33 PM Reply   
Anyone else want to go on Saturdays? We still go every Saturday...
Old    SamIngram            11-10-2010, 9:03 AM Reply   
I have been getting a lot of texts and emails about where to buy a wetsuit/drysuit in Arizona over the last week or so.

The only places that I know that carries anything for watersports (wakeboarding) is either:

Century Marine
3302 East Main Street
Mesa, AZ 85213
(480) 835-9134

or

El Mar Diving Center
2245 West Broadway Road
Mesa, AZ 85202
(480) 833-2971

I know that in past years Century has carried both the O'Neill Boost and the Bare drysuits. I would suggest the Boost unless you are tall and have a long torso like me. The boost will not fit me (XL at least) because it rides to high in my crotch and when I bend over or fall I feel like I'm going to rip it. The Bare is less money and in my opinion is not near as good as the O'Neill in construction or materials. I think Century also carries O'Neill wetsuits too. For a wetsuit I know Durty Curt likes the Psycho II and says that you have to welded seams, not taped or just flat lock sewn, or water will leak in. I have a Henderson that was meant for scuba diving and it leaks like crazy. I would not get a wetsuit without welded seams - period! Mine is way to cold! A surfing or wakeboard oriented suit is a must, the others just don't seem to work very well for being partially in and partially out of the water all the time.

El Mar Diving Center probably has the largest selection of wetsuits of any place in the valley but the majority of them are for scuba diving which don't seem to work well for wakeboarding, most don't have the welded seams. They do have at least some O'Neill suits though that you could try on and at least figure out what size you wear in an O'Neill suit.

Other than the O'Neill Boost or the Hybrid (This is what I wear in a XL) the only other drysuit that I have tried is the Barefoot International Drysuit. It was very good quality, probably better than the O'Neill or very close (I doubt it will leak on a fall) but the size I tried on was also to small like the Boost. I would like to try an Ocean Pyro suit, but haven't found anyone that carries them yet.

If you know of any other places in Arizona to buy/try on wetsuits or drysuits please post it up here so everyone knows and what brands they carry.
Old    Brian Johnsen (jlift)      Join Date: Sep 2009       11-11-2010, 3:58 PM Reply   
Sam
I'm down for next weekend, got a new board wanting to try it out. Your not going to like it but it was the right price dirt cheap. I'll txt you next week to firm up.
Old    Zack Bale (Fourspeednup)      Join Date: Apr 2010       11-11-2010, 4:31 PM Reply   
I'm up for riding this Saturday. Newer to the wakeboard scene but have several yrs of boat owning/driving experience. I'll send you a text to the # you posted earlier (480-226-362nine) in a few min
Old    JACINTO MENDOZA (hoss)      Join Date: Jan 2010       11-12-2010, 8:50 PM Reply   
anyone ride on the river in the yuma az. i know of some good spots and just lookin for anyone else who wants to ride out there. im from cali n going to b out there for a few months.
Old    SamIngram            11-29-2010, 8:47 AM Reply   
What's the deal? We were the only wakeboat on the lake on Saturday... hit me up if you want to come next week!

Ryan
Old    SamIngram            11-30-2010, 8:02 PM Reply   
Old    SamIngram            11-30-2010, 8:03 PM Reply   
That's the music we play on the boat, unless you bring your own...
Old    Ty (wakeandsnow27)      Join Date: Jun 2004       12-02-2010, 1:29 PM Reply   
hahaha, why am I not surprised?
Old     (lgdrills)      Join Date: Nov 2010       12-05-2010, 10:13 AM Reply   
Hey Sam I'm Louie from so cal. What's the water temp like where u guys are riding at? We went out yesterday it was 55 degrees.
Old    SamIngram            12-05-2010, 4:48 PM Reply   
We ride at Lake Titicaca in AZ.

The water temp was 58 this week and the high air temp was 73. Still plenty warm for a wetsuit or a drysuit...
Old    Carl (SugarFree)      Join Date: Aug 2010       12-26-2010, 9:01 PM Reply   
Hope everyone has a good New Year!!
Old    Matt Coldren (yorwakebordfrend)      Join Date: Aug 2006       12-26-2010, 10:06 PM Reply   
fresh to ride from acl rehab whos riding all winter lets shred
Old    Carl (SugarFree)      Join Date: Aug 2010       12-27-2010, 12:53 PM Reply   
I'm pretty much down whenever... except im going to Cali for vacation from the 30th til the 9th... Only thing is I have no boat... but if you ever need a third let me know.
Old    SamIngram            12-27-2010, 3:10 PM Reply   
As soon as the Golden Calf gets back I will let everyone know! It's not scheduled to be back until March.
Old    Carl (SugarFree)      Join Date: Aug 2010       12-27-2010, 4:03 PM Reply   
Ryan,
Thanks for the heads up... hopefully we can figure out a way to get out on the water before that... theres nobody on the lake and its all glass.
Old    SamIngram            12-29-2010, 8:08 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by SugarFree View Post
Ryan,
Thanks for the heads up... hopefully we can figure out a way to get out on the water before that... theres nobody on the lake and its all glass.
I'll probably spend most of the time shooting, hunting, and camping up north.
Old    Carl (SugarFree)      Join Date: Aug 2010       12-29-2010, 7:36 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by SamIngram View Post
I'll probably spend most of the time shooting, hunting, and camping up north.
Ahh preppin for the ol' defication hits the oscillation scenario... well if you want company on a trip let me know, I'm a decent shot, but thats bc Carlos Hatcock taugh me everything he knows lol... u know me im game for just about anything
Old    SamIngram            12-30-2010, 8:20 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by SugarFree View Post
Ahh preppin for the ol' defication hits the oscillation scenario... well if you want company on a trip let me know, I'm a decent shot, but thats bc Carlos Hatcock taugh me everything he knows lol... u know me im game for just about anything
That's Hathcock to you or Lông Trắng du Kich! LOL!
Old    SamIngram            12-30-2010, 8:28 AM Reply   
Next Lunch Time Break

I have two 100 foot static lines...
Old    Carl (SugarFree)      Join Date: Aug 2010       12-30-2010, 9:19 AM Reply   
woops i forgot the h... haha hat cock... Hathcock*

Quote:
Originally Posted by SamIngram View Post
Next Lunch Time Break

I have two 100 foot static lines...
Ohh man.. if we could pull that off it would be epic... Can you think of any spots where we could set up a rig like that?

I've heard about those guys from shreddy times... Ryan from Phoenixwinch.com was tellin me about them when we went snowboarding on tuesday... he's joining them on a snowboard trip later in the season...
Old    M. Brooks (wakebrooks)      Join Date: Feb 2010       03-01-2011, 12:45 PM Reply   
Who's all going out this weekend? It's gonna be nice out for once. It seems all winter it would be nice on the weekdays and then turn to crap on the weekend.
Old    Ty (wakeandsnow27)      Join Date: Jun 2004       03-01-2011, 4:21 PM Reply   
Ahhhhh- sunshine and nearing the 80s. 'bout time!
Old    Carl (SugarFree)      Join Date: Aug 2010       03-01-2011, 7:57 PM Reply   
it is looking very nice out lately... if anyone needs a third let me know!

Ryan any news on the golden calf?
Old    SamIngram            03-02-2011, 1:47 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by SugarFree View Post
it is looking very nice out lately... if anyone needs a third let me know!

Ryan any news on the golden calf?
The Golden Calf is officially getting detailed...

On another note! All Arizona Correct Craft Owners should PM me, I have bad news!
Old    DC (durty_curt)      Join Date: Apr 2008       03-02-2011, 9:57 PM Reply   
ah yes.. the az thread is once again alive. too bad you guys are missing out on the winter riding.
hey bocephus, when ya gonna send some more boat detailing pics?
Old    M. Brooks (wakebrooks)      Join Date: Feb 2010       03-03-2011, 6:34 AM Reply   
I have hardly missed a weekend yet this winter. I'm just tired of being cold! Rain or shine I boad, only thing that stops me is wind and man I hate wind.
Old    SamIngram            03-03-2011, 8:09 AM Reply   
I think this year will be very calm at the lakes. I doubt a lot of people will have money to wakeboard...
Old    Aaron Henry (Slideways)      Join Date: Apr 2010       03-03-2011, 10:43 AM Reply   
It's supposed to be nice this weekend, like 80's or so. I'm available Sunday to be a third and ride.
Old    Carl (SugarFree)      Join Date: Aug 2010       03-03-2011, 12:36 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by SamIngram View Post
The Golden Calf is officially getting detailed...

On another note! All Arizona Correct Craft Owners should PM me, I have bad news!
Sweet! ... too bad I didn't even get to justify the purchase of my dry suit... maybe next year.

Whats the deal with CC?... or is it secret squirrel CC owner stuff?
Old    Mike Capuzzo (cccbuilders)      Join Date: Jun 2007       03-03-2011, 7:24 PM Reply   
heres a big hint http://www.actionwatersportsaz.com/
Old    SamIngram            03-04-2011, 7:37 AM Reply   
I'm very sad.
Old    Zack Bale (Fourspeednup)      Join Date: Apr 2010       03-04-2011, 8:25 PM Reply   
Thinking about riding Bartlett Sunday if we can put a crew together. Probably down for next weekend too Sat or Sun. Weather is too nice to pass up after the last few nasty weekends

Hit me up if anyone's interested.

-Zack 602-881-752nine
Old    Nick (bushtree)      Join Date: Jul 2005       03-05-2011, 7:15 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fourspeednup View Post
Thinking about riding Bartlett Sunday if we can put a crew together. Probably down for next weekend too Sat or Sun. Weather is too nice to pass up after the last few nasty weekends

Hit me up if anyone's interested.

-Zack 602-881-752nine
I'd love to join you guys.. Have my own board, gas money, can drive a boat, etc.. Just looking to get back on the water after a couple year drought... Had to sell my SAN 210 TE back in '07 and haven't been wakeboarding since

saturday or sunday work for me. - Nick 602-345-zerothreeninefive
Old    Shawn (sbronco68)      Join Date: Mar 2011       03-11-2011, 7:47 PM Reply   
Hi guys
Just joined the site today!!! Learned to wakeboard last year and just got got done yesterday fixing up a 23ft V-Drive I bought a few months ago. Thinking of going to Bartlett tomorrow anyone else going?
Old    Carl (SugarFree)      Join Date: Aug 2010       03-16-2011, 11:43 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by sbronco68 View Post
Hi guys
Just joined the site today!!! Learned to wakeboard last year and just got got done yesterday fixing up a 23ft V-Drive I bought a few months ago. Thinking of going to Bartlett tomorrow anyone else going?
Welcome to wake world dude!... didn't see your post until today. 954 205 879three... gimme a call or text next time you go out if u need a third or just want an extra person around to help cover gas $.
Old    Spencer Coon (spencercoon)      Join Date: Mar 2011       03-23-2011, 2:36 PM Reply   
Finally. . . a place to meet other rider's in AZ aside from just giving each other the finger as we ride by (I really don't give anyone the finger, it just seems like there is a lack of friendliness among riders) . Anyway my purpose here is to either join or form a crew of riders. I would prefer to ride at least once a week all year round but it seems my friends and family now have different interests. I currently have access to my dads 02 SAN. I try to go every Saturday morning or late afternoon. I do have time Friday early mornings as well. My dad would prefer that I not use his boat so much so It'd be nice to be able to trade off weekends on other boats. I mostly ride at Saguaro or Canyon, but I am not opposed to making the drive to Bartlett to be a 3rd.
Old    Shawn (sbronco68)      Join Date: Mar 2011       03-27-2011, 7:12 AM Reply   
Any one want to hit Bartlett today?
Old    Brian Johnsen (jlift)      Join Date: Sep 2009       03-28-2011, 9:35 PM Reply   
Hey everyone havent posted in awhile, and wanted to say whats up. Rode with Zack a couple of Sundays ago and the water although nippy wasnt to bad.

On a side note "The System Bindings are incredible."

Ryan: heard about your injury hope it heels fast, and its cool you got the calf back from FL. when we gettin her back on the water? And cant wait to play the game thats sweeping the nation?????? "its a game of errosion!!!!!"

Spencer: Yeah majority of the boarders are pretty BRO-ISH but theres a few good crews.

Last edited by jlift; 03-28-2011 at 9:38 PM.
Old    SamIngram            03-29-2011, 10:02 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by jlift View Post
Hey everyone havent posted in awhile, and wanted to say whats up. Rode with Zack a couple of Sundays ago and the water although nippy wasnt to bad.

On a side note "The System Bindings are incredible."

Ryan: heard about your injury hope it heels fast, and its cool you got the calf back from FL. when we gettin her back on the water? And cant wait to play the game thats sweeping the nation?????? "its a game of errosion!!!!!"

Spencer: Yeah majority of the boarders are pretty BRO-ISH but theres a few good crews.
It's not actually back yet... word is they finished detailing it but haven't found a truck yet to deliver it...

The finger is good, I just wonder what I'm going to break this year...
Old    Zack Bale (Fourspeednup)      Join Date: Apr 2010       03-31-2011, 6:40 PM Reply   
Going to Bartlett Saturday and should have room for a couple more. A few people have hit me up over the past few weeks so if you haven't heard from me, don't be shy just invite yourself! So long as you aren't cross-eyed, have an infectious skin disease, or nauseating odor we'll likely accept you

Sam/Ryan/Ingram: Glad to hear the "detail" is done and she's just waiting on a ride back out West.
Old    Amber            04-04-2011, 3:52 PM Reply   
Hey y'all
My friends at Lake Shasta told me about WakeWorld. I've been wakeboarding with them intermittently for the past few years (annual houseboat trip). I finally made it wake to wake at the end of last season... I can surf forever, and no, I don't get board with it (but everyone else in the boat usually does). Every once and a while, I'll get wild and attempt a 360, but usually stick to hanging 10 or doing the robot.
I have a pretty open schedule, and I'm always down to get out on the water. So if you need a 3rd, or just need a girl around, lemme' know

Amber
Old    SamIngram            04-04-2011, 7:59 PM Reply   
It's official! Aaron is finished detailing The Golden Calf and it's on it's voyage home!! Hopefully it will be here by Saturday.

Amber, if the boat ain't full you are more than welcome to come... Just text Durty Curt.
Old    Spencer Coon (spencercoon)      Join Date: Mar 2011       04-05-2011, 10:33 PM Reply   
Would like to head out to saguaro or Canyon early Saturday morning. May need a 3rd or 4th anyone interested & willing pitch in for gas/tonto pass send me an email spencercoon85@gmail.com.
Old    Craig Michael Brown (craigbrown)      Join Date: Jun 2008       04-07-2011, 1:32 PM Reply   
I'd like to get a crew together for regular Thursdays and Fridays between 9 - 1. I'm also available to ride. Id like to get a lot of boarding in this year. Last year I got jipped!
Old    SamIngram            04-07-2011, 1:47 PM Reply   
Craig,
If the Federal Government Shuts-down the only place we can go is Lake Pleasant.

Government Shut-down thread

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