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Old    Petr (hawaj)      Join Date: Aug 2005       09-07-2009, 5:34 PM Reply   
well so this is my second board

plan ... this time I was inspired with Strech shape which I like, but this board is shorter - 4'8" / 20" / 2"
I design my shapes in PC in Adobe Illustrator where I can perfectly control all curves and then print them in 1:1 scale on laser printer

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cutting with my new japan style saw

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ready to shape

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just simple hand shaping - no powertools this time - its quiet and clean
I put big cardbox (from some ikea stuff) on shaping rack to catch all EPS mess so it don't fall on someones others balcony

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Old    Petr (hawaj)      Join Date: Aug 2005       09-07-2009, 6:05 PM Reply   
My first board was totally flat at bottom, but this time I tried to make single concave to slight double concave. It was uneasy. I have to cut stringer then sand foam. At first it was slow then I got more deeper then I wanted and so on. Geometry starts to chaning and I started to be unsure about what I am doing. Then I found some youtube video where they are shaping concave with planer so it helped a bit. Result is not perfect and even but its ok and smooth. Still learning.
Now when I look at other boards I can see thing I have no idea before.

stringer is masked with thin 3mm Scotch plastic masking tape and board is sealed with microballs

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Old    BOARDS MADE IN USA (brewkettle)      Join Date: Jan 2009       09-07-2009, 6:28 PM Reply   
looks awsome , need some pics on the water after you get threw
Old    Petr (hawaj)      Join Date: Aug 2005       09-07-2009, 6:45 PM Reply   
Paint job was pretty tricky this time. I wanted nice black rails, signal yellow bottom and slight turquoise iris on top where I want to partly put teak veener. Last time work with spray cans was unperfect, hardly controlable and expensive so I decided to buy airbrush gun with small compressor which I got very cheaply. But I have to go thru whole process of to learning which colors to choose, how to thin them, what is right consistency (should be like milk), how to work with gun, how to clean it etc. etc. It was fun but very time consuming plus time with masking etc. Then I found that I should did lighter colors first instead of black ... Whatever, working with colours is fun, I like it especilaly when are water soluble and dont smell so badly

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Old    Petr (hawaj)      Join Date: Aug 2005       09-07-2009, 6:56 PM Reply   
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spraying rails with small airbrush gun (0.3mm dia) was so so, but for big area like bottom you need bigger gun so I used spray cans. One was half empty another havent enough gas, third has bad nozzle... damned :-(

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Old    Petr (hawaj)      Join Date: Aug 2005       09-07-2009, 7:04 PM Reply   
done, except that glue on masking tape ripped some EPS beads from rails so I have to retouch it with black. It was probably because I left mask on board for couple days.

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Trying to airbrush logo but result is not clean - another retouching with white color. Top stringer tape is still left

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Old    Petr (hawaj)      Join Date: Aug 2005       09-07-2009, 7:13 PM Reply   
Bottom ... whoa so colorfull

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Old    Petr (hawaj)      Join Date: Aug 2005       09-07-2009, 7:23 PM Reply   
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Top coloring - he he first try, you know it - keep your breath and spray ..... oh sh...!! X(
result - too wide, very uneven spraying, hehe ... ok next time

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Old    Petr (hawaj)      Join Date: Aug 2005       09-07-2009, 7:40 PM Reply   
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And now is time for some fun - splotching some color
... nice touch ... at least one thing which made me happy!! Yea its adventure ...........under board you can see Zebrano and Teak veneer

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Old    Jeff Walker (surfdad)      Join Date: Sep 2004       09-07-2009, 8:27 PM Reply   
Nice! I love the splatter effect. What are your plans for the veneer?

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Old    mobster            09-08-2009, 8:39 AM Reply   
you guy's are starting to make some nice boards keep it up
Old    James Harold (jdjjamesz)      Join Date: Mar 2008       09-08-2009, 9:20 AM Reply   
thats a nice one peter looks like my shape. I like .
Old    BOARDS MADE IN USA (brewkettle)      Join Date: Jan 2009       09-08-2009, 10:57 AM Reply   
Petr ,
just dont vac bag it or you w1ll get resin runners and will have to sand back down .
Old    dtw. (notsobueno)      Join Date: Dec 2004       09-08-2009, 10:59 AM Reply   
All this on a small balcony? Thanks alot. Now I have NO excuses left.

Old    Scott Banks (bankssa)      Join Date: Mar 2003       09-08-2009, 11:59 AM Reply   
Any chance you could send me the Illustrator file.... I'd like to try one but don't have a reasonable template to start from....
Old    Petr (hawaj)      Join Date: Aug 2005       09-08-2009, 6:26 PM Reply   
Jeff - I just wanted to put some teak wood veneer on top because I like it's texture (but only 14" wide or so)... and becase I like to experiment as much as I can with every new board.
I will try to vac-bag it but I'm not sure if it's better to put some light glass under it to glue it directly on foam?

J.L., James - Oh thanx, I'm glad YOU like it!

Jim - You are right. I think I will try to put some vinil tape aroud.

dtw. - Yep very small room aroud. So now is your turn, go and buy some foam you can play with

Scott - Ok I will send you my template so you can enjoy all that foam fun with us
Old    calix2rider (dmontandon)      Join Date: Jul 2006       09-09-2009, 8:23 AM Reply   
I'd love to make one as well, this would be our first board, please advise what specific tools are required and any tricks of the trade?

Please send me a PM with the info..
Old    Wotan (wotan)      Join Date: Jul 2008       09-09-2009, 12:09 PM Reply   
I'm not sure how you guys are building these boards, but doesn't this one still need to be glassed? Or is it a foam-top? What else needs to be done before you can ride it and won't a regular foam-top just break right away?
Old    Petr (hawaj)      Join Date: Aug 2005       09-09-2009, 6:12 PM Reply   
Calix - if you search older Surfdad's threads in archive you will find nearly all you need and even more. Surfdad is our shaping guru.
Also look at youtube, there are tons of surboard shaping, glassing, glosscoating, sanding, fin instalation, airbrushing videos.
My first board - hotwiring etc.
http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/559019/613683.html?1219436311
http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/559019/620714.html?1220578686

I also use some info about shaping from http://www.greenlightsurfboards.com/
watch that DIY timelapse video

shaping tips
http://www.greenlightsurfsupply.com/shaping_tips.html

pdf instructional templates
http://www.greenlightsurfsupply.com/templates.html
download shaping stand, glassing stand, boxyrailbands, kniefyrailbands pdf

BOARD BUILDING TIPS from Foamez
http://www.foamez.com/page_4.html

Epoxy Board Building Guide pdf - EPS shaping, sealing, laminating (very helful) + all fin instaltion manuals
http://www.foamez.com/page_2.html

(Message edited by hawaj on September 09, 2009)
Old    Petr (hawaj)      Join Date: Aug 2005       09-09-2009, 6:23 PM Reply   
Robert - you are right, this is just painted sealed final shape from EPS. Not foam top.

Next will be instalation of finboxes, glassing, glosscating and sanding - after all that small itchy, sticky, dusty mess I can go for ride

Only hope I dont glue my pants to my ass like Surfdad
Old    Petr (hawaj)      Join Date: Aug 2005       09-12-2009, 3:54 PM Reply   
fin instalation with homemade jig

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Old    Petr (hawaj)      Join Date: Aug 2005       07-20-2010, 2:05 PM Reply   
finally time for gloss coat ... yea its been long time
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Old    Scott (scottnaz)      Join Date: Feb 2008       07-20-2010, 3:03 PM Reply   
Please tell us it hasn't been sitting this entire time, and in fact you have been ridin' it and now you're just catching up the thread?

What was your process for the veneer? - thx
Old    Petr (hawaj)      Join Date: Aug 2005       07-20-2010, 3:17 PM Reply   
Sorry it was sitting this entire time

I glued veneer with vacu hope it will keep for a while.
First time airbrushing first time vacu bagging its a thrill

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Old    Shane Miller (hematoma)      Join Date: Jul 2008       07-20-2010, 3:29 PM Reply   
Looks good Petr, I like the veneer look. Some balsa or mahogany and maybe some walnut would look cool as hell also. Hmmm ideas?
Old    Petr (hawaj)      Join Date: Aug 2005       07-20-2010, 3:41 PM Reply   
Teak this time
Old    Scott (scottnaz)      Join Date: Feb 2008       07-20-2010, 6:27 PM Reply   
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Sorry it was sitting this entire time
Wow, that sucks. At least you're working on it again.
I must say, this thread, along with your 1st build thread were great sources of information and inspiration for my build, so it'll be great to see this board get finished.
Old    BOARDS MADE IN USA (brewkettle)      Join Date: Jan 2009       07-20-2010, 6:41 PM Reply   
Looks real good Petr
Old    jan (bartj)      Join Date: Oct 2007       07-21-2010, 1:53 AM Reply   
beauty, i can't wait to have a ride
Old    Jeff Walker (surfdad)      Join Date: Sep 2004       07-21-2010, 5:38 AM Reply   
The veneers add such a great look!
Old    Petr (hawaj)      Join Date: Aug 2005       08-20-2010, 1:15 PM Reply   
finish line ... I am stoked!
I surf if today and it was blast, now Im going to celebrate it with few good czech beers ... yeah!
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Old    Petr (hawaj)      Join Date: Aug 2005       08-20-2010, 1:22 PM Reply   
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yea its freaky gloss finish ... heh why not, just for fun
And because it works great with wood, otherwise I will ended with regular matt finish. I really enjoy waterdrops runing zigzag over my teak veneer when I surf
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Old    Petr (hawaj)      Join Date: Aug 2005       08-20-2010, 1:30 PM Reply   
holy moly I really did it!
Old    Scott (scottnaz)      Join Date: Feb 2008       08-20-2010, 7:52 PM Reply   
Awesome!! and Congrats!!
But..... you do realize we don't belive you...... so post up some ride pics!!!

Old    jan (bartj)      Join Date: Oct 2007       08-22-2010, 3:08 PM Reply   
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But..... you do realize we don't belive you...... so post up some ride pics!!!
hey scott, i'm a witness, the board rides just fine
and i think that stills from the video are also on the way.
Old    Akadirtbikingdad (wakeboardingdad)      Join Date: Aug 2008       08-22-2010, 7:36 PM Reply   
Man, that really looks great! Kind of hated dulling the sheen with some wax I bet!
Old    Petr (hawaj)      Join Date: Aug 2005       08-22-2010, 7:49 PM Reply   
proof
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Old    Petr (hawaj)      Join Date: Aug 2005       08-22-2010, 7:58 PM Reply   
yea touching that perfect shiny surface with wax was so nasty, but there is a plenty of surface for your viewing pleasure

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