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Old    Joe Umali (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       05-10-2010, 8:08 PM Reply   
http://www.wakeworld.com/news/videos...-big-perm.html

Last edited by wakeworld; 05-12-2010 at 9:34 AM.
Old    DirtyCracker (ghettofab)      Join Date: Aug 2008       05-10-2010, 8:14 PM Reply   
crazy!
Old    Mitch (wakemitch)      Join Date: Jun 2005       05-10-2010, 8:16 PM Reply   
Everybody knows the early pimp gets the perm.

Last edited by wakemitch; 05-10-2010 at 8:18 PM.
Old    Mike Klarenbeek (wakecrzy2000)      Join Date: Apr 2004       05-10-2010, 8:16 PM Reply   
Wow that is crazy, nice work!
Old    Nick Haisch (shredsickgnar)      Join Date: Sep 2006       05-10-2010, 9:07 PM Reply   
Wakeboarding trick names are the gayest things in the world.
Old    Antbug (antbug)      Join Date: Jul 2004       05-10-2010, 9:19 PM Reply   
and big perm is one of the better ones...
Old    BG WCC (bigpapaf1f)      Join Date: May 2005       05-10-2010, 9:20 PM Reply   
mad props to nick not tryn to take anything away at all I he is a rad guy, but I think Brannan Johnson land it years ago (like atleast 10years ago) and named it a "Big Johnson"

Last edited by bigpapaf1f; 05-10-2010 at 9:26 PM.
Old    Gene Williams (gene3x)      Join Date: Apr 2005       05-10-2010, 9:26 PM Reply   
That was just an Ole 7 he did not even go upside down.....
Old    BG WCC (bigpapaf1f)      Join Date: May 2005       05-10-2010, 9:30 PM Reply   
Im tryn to find my Shafted I will check it out. I think that was the video where he does a few.
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       05-10-2010, 9:36 PM Reply   
I am dizzy!!!

Nice work

I mis brandon Johnson........squirt shredder!
Old    Darren Yearsley (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       05-10-2010, 9:43 PM Reply   
That is super impressive, he make it silky smooth. That malibu wake is a thing of beauty.
Old    Mark Griffin (cheesydog)      Join Date: Mar 2009       05-10-2010, 9:47 PM Reply   
very nice, now handle pass it for the 9!
Old    Joe Umali (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       05-10-2010, 9:59 PM Reply   
brannan's big worm on shafted wasn't a 7. not that i know of, anyway.
Old    Jeff Seidenstricker (flydenrict)      Join Date: Nov 2009       05-10-2010, 10:29 PM Reply   
Thats nuts. still trying to go over it in my head.
Old    Nick Haisch (shredsickgnar)      Join Date: Sep 2006       05-11-2010, 12:10 AM Reply   
Mark, that rotation was actually a 1080. If he added another 180 it would be a 1260.
Old    Joe Umali (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       05-11-2010, 12:24 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by antbug View Post
and big perm is one of the better ones...
i disagree. i think "big perm" is one of those names that makes wakeboarding sound lame. but whatever - i didn't invent the trick so i don't have a say in it.

i'm actually surprised that no one's shortened the "big worm" name to "b-dub".
Old    Kyle Linsey (kyle_L)      Join Date: Mar 2010       05-11-2010, 3:52 AM Reply   
This is called a Big Johnson and has been done many many times by the inventor Brannon Johnson.
Old    DirtyCracker (ghettofab)      Join Date: Aug 2008       05-11-2010, 8:30 AM Reply   
me and nick talked about this. Did Brannon Johnson ever have video document of the "big Johnson" ?
Old    Gene Williams (gene3x)      Join Date: Apr 2005       05-11-2010, 9:03 AM Reply   
I meant Ole 1080
Old    Mario (mdaijogo)      Join Date: Mar 2010       05-11-2010, 10:05 AM Reply   
Just reading that trick name reminds of the movie: Friday.

Big Perm. Big Worm.

m-
Old    CWB Board Co. (thedoubleupkid)      Join Date: May 2008       05-11-2010, 10:22 AM Reply   
Congrats to Nick! Yeah someone please stop the madness with these names. Off-Axis Ole 10 or something.
Old    Kyle Linsey (kyle_L)      Join Date: Mar 2010       05-11-2010, 10:23 AM Reply   
DC, i'm sure it is on video somewhere but back then people weren't bringing video cameras out for every set. I don't think he would have named the trick after himself if he never landed it, and for how easy big worms were for him along with his ability to effortlessly land blind, i would definitely not argue with him about landing a big johnson
Old    Henry Gates (captain_vilfo)      Join Date: Apr 2007       05-11-2010, 10:32 AM Reply   
big johnson lol
Old    CWB Board Co. (thedoubleupkid)      Join Date: May 2008       05-11-2010, 10:34 AM Reply   
Just to point out - this is a 1080 rotation. The first 3 is hard to distinguish but it is there - after leaving the wake Nick's body rotates 3 but when looking at the board, it is hard to see. Watch his shoulders.

I'll be the first to say BJ is/was a killer old school legend so I salute his riding. Whether BJ was the first to land this or not - it is somewhat irrelevant in today's terms. Nowadays w/ FB, Twitter, instant social networking - video is king. So let's give Nick Jones a hi-5 for letting us all see this move first hand. Thanks buddy!
Old    schooledrider (rmcronin)      Join Date: Aug 2002       05-11-2010, 4:25 PM Reply   
On the slo mo, the rotation is easy to follow. Hands down, Ole 1080, no need for another name. Wish I could do it, sweet!
Old    Nick Tomsyck (sidekicknicholas)      Join Date: Mar 2007       05-11-2010, 4:26 PM Reply   
Awesome!
Old    Kat Laird (wakekat15)      Join Date: Jul 2005       05-11-2010, 4:33 PM Reply   
Awesome trick. Interesting that Alliance has the description of the video as a Big Johnson vs. big perm. I could have sworn the link called it a Big Perm earlier when I checked it.
Old    John Marshall (JohnM)      Join Date: Apr 2010       05-11-2010, 4:52 PM Reply   
Wow crazy trick!

I don't see how this is a 1080 rotation?

Is a Whirly now an ole 7 and a Whirly 5 an ole 9?
Old    Joe Umali (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       05-11-2010, 6:27 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
I don't see how this is a 1080 rotation?
not tryin' to be a smart ass, but did you not watch the slo-mo version of it at the end of the video?
Old    Jos (jtnz)      Join Date: Sep 2007       05-11-2010, 9:28 PM Reply   
Was that an invert? Jaw droppingly impressive I wish I could do that, or even half of that, but looks like an OA 1080 to me. He didn't get upside down really.
Old    LEE DANEILS (hyperlite)      Join Date: May 2009       05-12-2010, 3:58 AM Reply   
Nick is a really impressive rider. Have had a couple chances to ride with him and Robbie Carter a while back and it was a lot of fun. Halarious guys. Amazing riders. Nice to see some NW boys coming into their own and making some noise
Old    John Marshall (JohnM)      Join Date: Apr 2010       05-12-2010, 8:59 AM Reply   
Joe,

For the sake of argument:

I see 720 degrees of FS spin plus a toeside front roll invert. If you break the trick down it is a toeside frontside 180 into a switch whirly five.

Are Whirlys no longer considered inverts?

I just do not understand the push for a change in terminology. People wanting to call crow mobes and HS Backroll Mobes Ole 720's.

Is it to relate better to snowboard terminology?

If you did a mute crow mobe into the wrap and a mute TS FS OA ole 720 in a contest would they count as different tricks?

I remember when Watson first started doing the mutes crows and mute HS backrolls Ole style and remember how unique it made his riding look.

Last edited by JohnM; 05-12-2010 at 9:02 AM. Reason: add detail
Old    John Marshall (JohnM)      Join Date: Apr 2010       05-12-2010, 9:03 AM Reply   
Phillip Soven Melan Crow 720
Old    Landan Luna (landowakettu)      Join Date: Nov 2009       05-12-2010, 9:30 AM Reply   
John,

I can see where they get the 1080 rotation but I also can see where you are correct as well. I think we need to stop arguing semantics for the sake of arguing.



This trick is in fact Big Perm/Big Johnson whatever the correct way to call it. You can't count his "TS frontroll" as one of his rotations.

Last edited by landowakettu; 05-12-2010 at 9:30 AM. Reason: contradicted myself
Old    John Haile (waterdork88)      Join Date: Aug 2005       05-12-2010, 9:37 AM Reply   
I don't get it the change in terminology either. We're really splitting hairs again. The day I hit my first backroll to revert I hope my boys aren't like "Ummm actually, that was a hs ole 5" ... maybe Parks never hit a double half cab roll nor a double mobe. Maybe they're really double cork 9 and double cork 10
Old    Ryan Allison (devildog_ra)      Join Date: Jun 2007       05-12-2010, 10:02 AM Reply   
John i did the math and broke down the trick into an equation which will clearly end this discussion for good.
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Old    Ryan Allison (devildog_ra)      Join Date: Jun 2007       05-12-2010, 10:02 AM Reply   
As you can all see this ends in an endless loop so the final answer is that it is in fact an awesome trick.

Last edited by devildog_ra; 05-12-2010 at 10:05 AM. Reason: sp
Old    John Marshall (JohnM)      Join Date: Apr 2010       05-12-2010, 10:11 AM Reply   
Agreed

I'm going to go do some parkour now.
Old    Mark Griffin (cheesydog)      Join Date: Mar 2009       05-13-2010, 12:14 AM Reply   
ryan that actually made sense to me
Old    A-dub (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       05-13-2010, 7:49 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by dakid View Post
not tryin' to be a smart ass, but did you not watch the slo-mo version of it at the end of the video?
I did, and saw a scarecrow, with then an overhead 540. Ole scarecrow 7 in my mind, or a Big Johnson/Big Perm. Stuck that landing!

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