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Old    Dan (gtrcs)      Join Date: Apr 2010       04-06-2010, 6:01 PM Reply   
Hi guys interested in the MB sports, how do the 220 V and the B-52(smaller one compare)?
thanks in adance guys
Old    Ian Brown (wakereviews)      Join Date: Sep 2006       04-06-2010, 6:13 PM Reply   
It's the exact same boat, just different gel and standard options.
Old    Alan Slabaugh (alans)      Join Date: Aug 2005       04-06-2010, 6:49 PM Reply   
Yep. What years are you looking at?
Old    Dan (gtrcs)      Join Date: Apr 2010       04-06-2010, 7:47 PM Reply   
Thanks Ian.

Hi Alan, I was thinking 05, I have heard they are better from 04 and newer although I dont know how true this is.
Old    Jim Young (jyoungusa)      Join Date: Sep 2009       04-07-2010, 5:58 AM Reply   
I have an 08 220V with most of the standard options that a B52 has except sub-woofer - great boat. In a lot of cases the difference is the styling/scheme in the gel coat - classic lines vs tribal pattern. My 08 has a 45 gal tank, 343HP PCM, 1800lbs of pumped ballast (wish MB had introduced the Pure Vert System as year earlier). There can be differences in the Skylon Towers - how they fold down / design on board racks etc...
Old    Alan Slabaugh (alans)      Join Date: Aug 2005       04-07-2010, 7:31 AM Reply   
The '08 has about 3" taller free-board, shorter engine hatch, better ballast pumps, a mild engine upgrade, different tower, and different rear hull design from the '05. There are basically rolling changes every year from '04 to '10 on that boat.
Old    Dan (gtrcs)      Join Date: Apr 2010       04-07-2010, 5:26 PM Reply   
So the '05 is the same bottom as the '09
Old    Alan Slabaugh (alans)      Join Date: Aug 2005       04-07-2010, 6:26 PM Reply   
95%. The newest version has "built in trim tabs." At least that is the easiest way to describe it.
Old    Dan (gtrcs)      Join Date: Apr 2010       04-07-2010, 7:18 PM Reply   
Thanks Alan, your info shoulkd help me alot.
Old    Mattt (motorcitymatt)      Join Date: Feb 2007       04-07-2010, 8:25 PM Reply   
"Built in trim tabs"............. HUH???? Please explain.

Thanks
Old    Alan Slabaugh (alans)      Join Date: Aug 2005       04-07-2010, 9:23 PM Reply   
Here is a little rundown of what is different from '03 to '08.
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Old    Alan Slabaugh (alans)      Join Date: Aug 2005       04-07-2010, 9:47 PM Reply   
I am such a nerd
Old    Mike (ponyh8r)      Join Date: Dec 2004       04-08-2010, 3:27 AM Reply   
Haha..nice work Alan. Mike should consider giving you a job.
Old    Alan Slabaugh (alans)      Join Date: Aug 2005       04-08-2010, 6:38 AM Reply   
I would do it in a heartbeat, unfortunately i need to make money, Not so easy to do in the boat business, believe me, I have tried.
Old    Mario (mdaijogo)      Join Date: Mar 2010       04-08-2010, 10:59 AM Reply   
Alan-

This built in trim tab is not present in my 09 Tomcat. Is this "feature" only on the 220V?

Mario-
Old    Alan Slabaugh (alans)      Join Date: Aug 2005       04-08-2010, 11:58 AM Reply   
Specific to the 220V. It is not really a "trim tab", but it does have a slight bit of "hook" in it. No your 09 Tomcat does not have it. It was really just a mild redesign to assist the boat in getting on plane faster. It also gives the stern a little extra "lift" at higher speeds, which actually make the 22'er a decent slalom boat at speeds over 30 mph.
Old    Chris Halfmoon (moon)      Join Date: Oct 2008       04-08-2010, 12:34 PM Reply   
We have an 03 220V and for a first time boat owner I'd have to say I'm pretty pleased with it. I'm not really sure how the 05 is any different then the 03, Alan could you give me a little run down?

Moon
Old    Alan Slabaugh (alans)      Join Date: Aug 2005       04-08-2010, 1:13 PM Reply   
As far as I can remember, the only differences between 03 and 05 is that the spray pockets are removed. Oh and I think the ballast pump system was re-engineered.
Old    Chris Halfmoon (moon)      Join Date: Oct 2008       04-08-2010, 2:31 PM Reply   
Why does my 03 have spray pockets and newer models don't? What was the purpose of the spray pocket?

Thanks,
Moon
Old    Ray M (wakeborder5)      Join Date: Jun 2002       04-08-2010, 6:28 PM Reply   
I don't know what exactly the purpose of spray pockets were, but they have been noted for causing spray that washes out the wake I believe.
Old    Alan Slabaugh (alans)      Join Date: Aug 2005       04-08-2010, 8:10 PM Reply   
They definitely cause a bit of a notch in the wakeboard wake. What is interesting to me is that the best hulls from MC and CC have them.
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Old    Dan (gtrcs)      Join Date: Apr 2010       04-08-2010, 11:50 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by alans View Post
Specific to the 220V. It is not really a "trim tab", but it does have a slight bit of "hook" in it. No your 09 Tomcat does not have it. It was really just a mild redesign to assist the boat in getting on plane faster. It also gives the stern a little extra "lift" at higher speeds, which actually make the 22'er a decent slalom boat at speeds over 30 mph.

what yr model has this hook Alan? as we dont mind the ski now and then.

Is the '02 the same bottom other than the splash pockets being taken away?
Old    Alan Slabaugh (alans)      Join Date: Aug 2005       04-09-2010, 4:35 AM Reply   
2007 was the first year that has the extended hull surface.

2004 was the first year that the spray pockets were eliminated
Old    Dan (gtrcs)      Join Date: Apr 2010       04-09-2010, 6:34 AM Reply   
so would you reccomend the '07 and later for the ski wake?
Old    Alan Slabaugh (alans)      Join Date: Aug 2005       04-09-2010, 7:09 AM Reply   
Most of the skiers that I took out in the '07 and later were very impressed with the wake at slalom speeds, for a 22' v-drive. No, I can't comment on pre-'07 or pre-'04 because I just can't remember.

For anyone else reading this thread, everything above only pertains to the 220 or B-52 hull. Not the 230v, B-52 V23, B-52v 21 TWB, F21 Tomcat, or F23 Tomcat.

Last edited by alans; 04-09-2010 at 7:15 AM.

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