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Old    Ken (ghostrider_2)      Join Date: Aug 2004       09-21-2009, 8:21 PM Reply   
Is it?
does the green show up really bright on sunny days?
Old    Jason Pavik (jasonpav)      Join Date: Dec 2008       09-21-2009, 8:52 PM Reply   
Their lines work great from what I've experienced. I'm sure the green is easy enough to be seen.
Old    Anthony Ciardelli (liquidforcefan)      Join Date: Aug 2007       09-21-2009, 9:36 PM Reply   
I've had a problem with my handle sinking.
Old    Roddyrod (wakeslife)      Join Date: Jul 2005       09-21-2009, 9:38 PM Reply   
They're good. And they double as an anchor/seaweed catcher.
Old    Todd (antoddio)      Join Date: Dec 2006       09-21-2009, 9:59 PM Reply   
Yup, always sinks on me. The plastic breaks on the end. On the plus side you rarely have to worry about fouling the rope in the prop when switching riders.
Old    08 Malibu VLX Silva (ksilva)      Join Date: Mar 2008       09-21-2009, 10:46 PM Reply   
Where can you pick one of these up for a good price?
Old    Ken (ghostrider_2)      Join Date: Aug 2004       09-22-2009, 12:50 AM Reply   
don't really care about the handle I really just want the lime green line and its $30 cheaper than the liquid force envy.

http://www.wholesalemarine.com/pc/CWB-84100025/99990033/Connelly-CWB+Water+Sports/LG+Package+with+Neon+Green+Mainline.html#
Old    Ken (ghostrider_2)      Join Date: Aug 2004       09-22-2009, 12:52 AM Reply   
do they seriously suck, or you guys just f'ing with me?
Old    Randy (dudeman)      Join Date: Mar 2005       09-22-2009, 2:36 AM Reply   
Mine sinks like a brick.
Old    Stan Tanner (sbt3)      Join Date: Jun 2002       09-22-2009, 4:29 AM Reply   
It's an awesome handle but it does always sink like a brick. I've had 3 of them now and they all do the same thing. That is the only bad thing I can say about them.
Old    D C (dirwoody)      Join Date: Apr 2003       09-22-2009, 5:35 AM Reply   
Proline will warranty them if they sink
Old    Timothy (timmy)      Join Date: Jul 2001       09-22-2009, 5:39 AM Reply   
http://www.lakeelmosports.com/product.php?productid=220&cat=39&page=1

you could slide one of these on the line...
Old    Todd (antoddio)      Join Date: Dec 2006       09-22-2009, 6:31 AM Reply   
They don't sink when you are moving usually.

Honestly I think I might prefer it sinking. My buddies rope floats and we always have to coil it up when the boat is stopped. This one just goes straight down.
Old    Chris G. (chris4x4gill2)      Join Date: Sep 2009       09-22-2009, 6:35 AM Reply   
Does the Answer handle have the same problem with sinking?

http://www.wholesalemarine.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/CWB-84100002_med.jpg
Old    Chasin7 T (chaser)      Join Date: Sep 2006       09-22-2009, 7:11 AM Reply   
I've had 2 proline LG handles. Both sink. I did stuff pieces of foam noodle into one of the handles and it floats most of the day, but by the end of the day it is sinking a little. That being said, I just ordered my 3rd LG handle because I really like everything else about them. I ordered an 09 cause it was half off. The 2010 handles look really nice.
Old    Chris G. (chris4x4gill2)      Join Date: Sep 2009       09-22-2009, 7:24 AM Reply   
is the sinking due to water getting into the handle? could it be re-sealed with silicone or something similar? Or more trouble than its worth?
Old    David Bell (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       09-22-2009, 7:29 AM Reply   
Yes, water gets into the handle but the 2010 line has solved this issue from what I have heard. $.02
Old    Shawn (helinut)      Join Date: Apr 2007       09-22-2009, 7:32 AM Reply   
The LGS is supposed to float. I'm still waiting for one to come in...
Old    Shawn (helinut)      Join Date: Apr 2007       09-22-2009, 7:32 AM Reply   
http://www.alliancewake.com/goods_details.php?id=5109
Old    Eubanks (eubanks01)      Join Date: Jun 2001       09-22-2009, 8:03 AM Reply   
Sink like a brick. They won't warranty it if it is more than 1 year old BTW. Good feeling grip but quality is a little suspect. I've owned 4 and all of them have torn up within a few uses.

Can't speak for the line.
Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       09-22-2009, 8:17 AM Reply   
Love mine, haven't ridden with anything else since they were first made. I've had 2 of them in 4 seasons. Mine have lasted.

Mine sinks a little I guess, I've never understood how that mattered. I grab the line, eventually the handle comes around....hit it. No big deal.
Old    Todd (antoddio)      Join Date: Dec 2006       09-22-2009, 8:39 AM Reply   
The plastic/vinyl on the end cracks letting in water. I think mine was either cracked when I got it or on first use. It's def a design problem. Even if you get it warratied, i highly doubt the next one wouldn't do that same thing. You could prob glue the end and it wouldn't sink, but then again I like when it sinks.
Old    Josh (romes)      Join Date: Sep 2006       09-22-2009, 8:48 AM Reply   
just fill it up with some expanding foam insulator and it wont sink
Old    Jeff Baker (innov8)      Join Date: May 2005       09-22-2009, 8:59 AM Reply   
Only handle I will use, I have tried others, but nothing compares to an LG IMO.
Old    C.I.E... AL Bischofbee (allen)      Join Date: Apr 2005       09-22-2009, 9:57 AM Reply   
My 10 LGS doesn't sink
Old    Josh (romes)      Join Date: Sep 2006       09-22-2009, 10:01 AM Reply   
aren't you special...

(Message edited by romes on September 22, 2009)
Old    C.I.E... AL Bischofbee (allen)      Join Date: Apr 2005       09-22-2009, 10:12 AM Reply   
No not really!! Just answering a question above about the 2010 stuff.
Old    Caleb Rountree (dlwsrider)      Join Date: Apr 2007       09-22-2009, 10:15 AM Reply   
I owned the handle for about 4 months. The grip wrapped up so much id have 6 to 8 blood blisters at a time on my hands after I rode.

Wait till late October. Ronix is releasing some handles that will blow your mind.
Old    Josh (romes)      Join Date: Sep 2006       09-22-2009, 10:27 AM Reply   
no need for i wasnt cuttin you up...you are lucky i keep tryna warranty mine and they keep sending me the '09 one that twists in 2 sets
Old    Chuck (zeketheplumber)      Join Date: Sep 2007       09-22-2009, 10:44 AM Reply   
Is the LG available in different diameters or are they all the same. When I bought mine it seemed large but I got used to it. I didn't know if it is just a wake vs. ski handle difference.
Old    C.I.E... AL Bischofbee (allen)      Join Date: Apr 2005       09-22-2009, 11:08 AM Reply   
The LG comes in many different diameters and grip patterns. Not quite sure how many. My LGS has a square pattern stitched into it. It is also the thickest handle I have ever had. Works great for me. I just switched this year and now I am wondering why I waited so long.
Old    C.I.E... AL Bischofbee (allen)      Join Date: Apr 2005       09-22-2009, 11:10 AM Reply   
green shows up pretty good
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Old    Josh B (joshugan)      Join Date: Apr 2005       09-22-2009, 11:20 AM Reply   
Sink like a brick? That is some gross hyperbole from you folks.

I've had the LG handle and thought it was great. It sank but certainly not like a brick. And it isn't hard to get it. Boat comes around, grab the line, and you end up with the handle in your hand.

Great handle, imo!
Old    nick farrell (nickdakoolkat)      Join Date: Sep 2005       09-22-2009, 11:27 AM Reply   
i like they way they feel, but none of mine held up very well... i had it warrantied 3 times but the outter layer always tore off from the handle where i gripped it
Old    CWB Board Co. (thedoubleupkid)      Join Date: May 2008       09-22-2009, 11:56 AM Reply   
•Sealed 7075-T6 aluminum bar is 25% lighter, stronger and watertight
•Buoyant without the use of floats that can get in the way
•Stitched and glued directly to EVA for extra durability
•Diamond, Square, or Parallel stitched
•Quilting effect creates more surface area and increases traction/friction
•Tacky synthetic leather, an industry leader in grip technology
•Soft EVA foam inner core blends comfort with function


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All the LGS handles are in stock please contact your local Proline dealer to order!
Old    Billy Boozer (bboozer)      Join Date: Apr 2007       09-22-2009, 11:57 AM Reply   
Mine was good for a while and late in the day the handle would start to sink, but not like a brick. I bought some Great Stuff foam, and pulled the caps off and shot a little in each end, and the problem was solved. But, after 3 years, mine is worn out on the grip and I am going to get a '10 one for Christmas...
Old    CWB Board Co. (thedoubleupkid)      Join Date: May 2008       09-22-2009, 12:09 PM Reply   
Look for the new 2010 Proline LGS ad in your next Alliance!

I've done my best to perfect the LG w/ the LGS. The new bar is super light. Hold a 09' vs an 10' and you can feel the difference in weight. This has helped w/ the sinking issue. Also, I have sealed the bar so it is bouyant. Using foam/floats etc weighs your handle down. The stitching has not only added extra texture and friction it has made the grip super durable. No more bunching problems which lead to rips in the LG material. The EVA and LG are stitched together, not just glued, like everyone else! I first I thought it could be a warranty problem, after about of year of testing, the stitching has added more life to the handle. I hope this helped. Thanks - Casey @ Proline
Old    CWB Board Co. (thedoubleupkid)      Join Date: May 2008       09-22-2009, 12:13 PM Reply   
2010 LGS diameters from large to small: Parallel, Square, Diamond.
Old    Eubanks (eubanks01)      Join Date: Jun 2001       09-22-2009, 12:21 PM Reply   
What happened to my new handle Casey you were sending me after Expo?
Old    WakeMikey (wakemikey)      Join Date: Mar 2008       09-22-2009, 12:36 PM Reply   
Hey thedoubleupkid! I just got an 08 LG-Triangle! I really like it and the shape is great. It does slowly sink but it isn't a big deal.

My question: Does Proline have any thoughts on anti-roll handles or any other method of making the handle support bars stiff? I notice this is a common trend for other companies but the LGs are noodle armed. Again not a bad thing - just curious to your thoughts and others thoughts! Thanks!
Old    Stan Tanner (sbt3)      Join Date: Jun 2002       09-22-2009, 12:49 PM Reply   
The sinking handle may not be a problem for most of you who ride deep, weed free lakes. Where I ride the bay is 10-15 feet deep and the weeds are 5 feet below the surface so between rides if you don't pull the handle in right away it's got about 5lbs of weed all full of zebra muscles attached to it. It really sucks.
Old    Ken (ghostrider_2)      Join Date: Aug 2004       09-22-2009, 12:57 PM Reply   
allen thanks for the picture of "in use" thats what I needed, as I said I have my favorite hande, Accurate-Murray-white and very plush, getting old but I think it still as another season or 2 left.
Old    RileyBangerter (steezyshots)      Join Date: Feb 2008       09-22-2009, 1:07 PM Reply   
The Orange was SUPER bright too!
Old    D.F.T.R. Josh (downfortheride)      Join Date: Jun 2005       09-22-2009, 1:15 PM Reply   
We ride the shallow water from 10 - 6' and never had a problem with the handle. We make it a point (no matter which line and handle) to bring in the handle if the rider is done with his/her set. Bringing the handle back to the rider is no problem and the handle stays on top of the water. LG is a sick set up and it's crazy bright!


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Old    Timothy (timmy)      Join Date: Jul 2001       09-22-2009, 1:31 PM Reply   
Again, it would be super simple to slide on the float that I linked earlier on to the rope. It would look like this:

http://www.waterskiworld.com/skihandlesropes/Masterline_WaterSki_Ropes/a_EVAWakeSlalom-copy_resize.jpg

Problem solved.
Old    Jarrod Corby (showmedonttellme)      Join Date: Mar 2008       09-22-2009, 1:49 PM Reply   
Most handles sink, thats why you grab it when the boat comes around lol. All the CWB guys had the LGs out this weekend and I thought they were dope!!!
Old    CWB Board Co. (thedoubleupkid)      Join Date: May 2008       09-22-2009, 1:53 PM Reply   
I'm ok w/ anti-roll, and I have it locked in for 2011. Does everyone feel the difference between AR and not? Do you ride better? Honestly, I don't know - zero team guys demand it. W/ the resurgence of wrapped handles you dont want AR/fixed bars to get in the way. I go thru the mags each month and look for photos w/ AR - and it's easily less than 20% more like 10%. I try to focus on (#1) -> grips, bar shapes, weight, and overall function. Your first impression is everything and as you grab for the handle off the shelf - if it feels comfortable, tacky, super light, and does what you want, then I have succeeded.
Old    Shawn (helinut)      Join Date: Apr 2007       09-22-2009, 2:09 PM Reply   
Don't make me call you a liar Casey. My board shop has been waiting for them for 3 weeks! :-) He's calling you now! :-)
Old    CWB Board Co. (thedoubleupkid)      Join Date: May 2008       09-22-2009, 2:19 PM Reply   
Sure thing - have your dealer call 425-775-5416! Ship them all! 2010 LGS, MX, LGT, LG, Faction, Essential, Synergy in stock!
Old    Eagle Jackson (eaglejackson)      Join Date: Oct 2004       09-22-2009, 2:42 PM Reply   
Casey, which LGS diameter is similar to the LG1? Which pattern would that be?

Also, is the black LG1 the same diameter as the white LG1? I would have thought so but... We've been riding with a white one but it died (twisted grip, bunched, and then tore). We switched to a new black LG1 but it felt a little smaller in the hand, so switched back to an older white LG1 I had. I haven't measured the two to see if there is really a difference or not.
Old    CWB Board Co. (thedoubleupkid)      Join Date: May 2008       09-22-2009, 3:10 PM Reply   
LGS Green/Black or Blue/White Diamond. White or Blk should not make a difference in dia.
Old    WakeMikey (wakemikey)      Join Date: Mar 2008       09-22-2009, 3:16 PM Reply   
I meant to say 09 LGT and personally I can't say I really notice a difference. Great point on wrap tricks. Thanks!
Old    Codi Northam (bogartsomeday)      Join Date: Mar 2009       09-22-2009, 5:12 PM Reply   
When will I be able to buy the new 2010 CWB bindings????
Old    Shawn (helinut)      Join Date: Apr 2007       09-22-2009, 5:52 PM Reply   
Meant to put a smiley face in there but was on the phone at the same time. Just giving u a hard time Casey. :-) hope to see my new handle soon.
Old    DRA-its Lifestyle (deltariderscom)      Join Date: May 2007       09-23-2009, 6:59 AM Reply   
2010 CWB bindings will be available in Mid to Late October. Most of the line is available now except for the High end boots.
Old    Codi Northam (bogartsomeday)      Join Date: Mar 2009       09-23-2009, 1:57 PM Reply   
DRA-
Thanks man! Do u know if it'll be strictly available online? or will some shops have it depending on if they wanna get it this early in the game? Cause idk if i want the AA's or the Factions so i need to try 'em on!

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