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Old    Dan Kampstra (kamper11)      Join Date: Jun 2009       06-26-2009, 4:35 PM Reply   
Greetings all

I have a Limited budget and looking at some local used boats. Ive owned a bunch - malibu, CC, MC etc... in the past (best was a 94 Nautique - with weight and people an awesome ramp). Learned to wake surf in vegas behind a calabria pro boat (yeah - nice wave - spoiled) but dont have a new boat budget - here are the few Im considering that are in my budget range ~$8-9k:

92 and 94 Ski Ray's - one closed bow, other open bow

92 Ski Brendella open bow

92 Ski Supreme medalist 210 open bow

95 Malibu Response closed bow

85 Nautique 2001 closed bow

Any first hand experience for how good a wake I could build with any of these?

Many thanks in advance!

Many thanks in advance
Old    WAlove (masonwakerider)      Join Date: May 2003       06-26-2009, 6:55 PM Reply   
look for a boat with a deep freeboard. This will allow you to add more weight in the back corner without taking water over the side. Most of the boats you have listed are great ski boats but sit pretty low to the water. The late 80's supra's seem to have much higher sides and would work better.
Old    WakeMikey (wakemikey)      Join Date: Mar 2008       06-28-2009, 7:35 AM Reply   
Supra SunSport homie deepest vee and huge surf wave. Wake is great, boat has high freeboard and lots of storage for hidden sacs in DD!
Old    Joe B (sailing216)      Join Date: Oct 2007       06-28-2009, 9:53 AM Reply   
Again for Supra Sunsport. Best old boat wave out there.
Old    Larry Mann (niap101)      Join Date: Jul 2004       06-29-2009, 6:22 AM Reply   
When loaded with too much ballast, the Nautique 2001 has a very nice, but very short wave, both regular and goofy.
Old    WakeMikey (wakemikey)      Join Date: Mar 2008       06-29-2009, 12:18 PM Reply   
I have many pics of the SunSport surf wave. PM me or check this link if you wanna check 'em
Old    Kevin Hoye (wakebrdr38)      Join Date: Sep 2006       06-29-2009, 1:44 PM Reply   
yeah surfing the 2001 is like being right off the swim platform.
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       06-29-2009, 2:01 PM Reply   
Supra Sunsport 2nd. Deep old great boats.
Old    KDA (idaho_hillbilly)      Join Date: Jun 2009       06-29-2009, 11:28 PM Reply   
I learned to waterski behind a 1977 19' Century Arabian v-drive. That sucker had big wake at 35mph, wonder what it would be like with some ballast? Came with Bennett trim tabs so you can do some shaping.

Old    Mikeski (mikeski)      Join Date: Aug 2003       06-30-2009, 1:16 AM Reply   
maybe an older barefoot nautique as well as the Supra Sunsport. There were also some older Malibu sunsetters with a fairly tall freeboard.
Old    Jack Feasel (saltare_inverts)      Join Date: Mar 2009       06-30-2009, 6:10 AM Reply   
You need a Supra saltare. 23 foot boat, huge wake. Same hull as gravity games edition up to 2007.
Old    Daniel (cowwboy)      Join Date: Jul 2008       06-30-2009, 6:24 AM Reply   
So the saltare / pirata is the same as the older gg???
Old    Kevin Hoye (wakebrdr38)      Join Date: Sep 2006       06-30-2009, 7:54 AM Reply   
the saltaire has a huge really big rampy surf wake. With a lot of weight and surfing being your main priority it would be a good choice
Old    Dan Kampstra (kamper11)      Join Date: Jun 2009       07-01-2009, 9:12 AM Reply   
Thanks much for the input - is greatly appreciated!!

Would love to find an older sunsetter or supra (sunsport, pirata etc...) but not so readily available :-)

Locally - Ive found an 89 SN 2001 and an 88 MC Tristar 190 - similar price -

Thought on which one will surf better? Seems they are both surfable based on search on this forum.

Thanks again guys!


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