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Old    AMO (amo)      Join Date: Jan 2009       06-04-2009, 7:19 PM Reply   
Is there an unwritten rule some where that says I can "accidentally" run over a jet skier for being a jacka$$ and screwing up my nice riding day?
Old    Joe Umali (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       06-04-2009, 7:21 PM Reply   
is there an unwritten rule that says the water is all yours?
Old    AMO (amo)      Join Date: Jan 2009       06-04-2009, 7:33 PM Reply   
Joe are you always here to play devils advocate, especially when you don't know the whole story? You must be a lawyer, or a jet skier......or worse yet a jet skiing lawyer!

Maybe I bought that part of the lake

I had a nice piece of lake picked out. It was very windy today and the only other calm shoreline was taken by another wakeboarder. Because I'm not one of those guys who poaches another dudes spot I went to this area. NOW, dude on a jet ski has the whole lake to himself besides 2 people wakeboarding and he decides to pull figure 8's in my line for a half hour F-ing up my nice line. Where I come from that is called being an A-HOLE!!!!
Old    michaelspsp (michaelspsp)      Join Date: Sep 2007       06-04-2009, 7:38 PM Reply   
agreed. i have the same problem in ny. 9 mile lake. they always end up by me even if the entire rest of the lake is empty. they are water cockroaches ..
Old    Nick Tomsyck (sidekicknicholas)      Join Date: Mar 2007       06-04-2009, 7:46 PM Reply   
they don't bother me unless they get right behind our boat, which they usually do.

Its unsafe and just plain stupid. Last time out, two kids jumping the 1st roller behind the main wake, back and forth.... I seriously had to wait to do tricks because I was afraid if I fell I was getting destroyed.

Eventually I did fall, they slowed down and waited for us to start again.... I motioned for them to shoo away, they did for about 3 min.

then again when I fell I had to tell them to get away from right behind us.... and said when we are done we'll make huge rollers if they just leave us alone for the next 15 min.... they did, we made huge rollers, everyone wins.


As much as I hate them, I think as soon as I get on one I turn into an how they work
Old    Joe Umali (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       06-04-2009, 7:46 PM Reply   
i hear what you're saying amo, and no, i'm neither a jet skier nor am i a lawyer. though i wouldn't mind being the latter.

i agree, they can be frustrating at times. just don't let 'em get to you or your good times on the lake.
Old    Jonathan Bay (john211)      Join Date: Aug 2008       06-04-2009, 9:00 PM Reply   
amo v. umi, pro se petitioners.

jet skiers are typically a bane. on table rock at least, the water patrol collars them a bit. but it's washing machine on weekends, so it's little use that there's such enforcement.

on bull shoals, which is quieter and hence the water patrol ignores, rogue jet skiers abuse with impunity. it's sad, the price hurdle for being trashy is so low.
Old    Kevin (pri3st)      Join Date: Aug 2007       06-04-2009, 9:13 PM Reply   
I agree with Nick, they don't bother me unless too close. They just wanna have fun too. I'm sure it's no fun to ride a jetski in choppy water. Just like it's no fun to ride in choppy water.
Here's one for ya....how about you've got a nice cove to yourself & someone pulls in & decides to wakesurf in the glassy water. THAT pisses me off.
Old    shane mckenna (mckenna)      Join Date: Mar 2008       06-04-2009, 9:24 PM Reply   
wake surfing is lame.
Old    Michael ImObersteg (kickflip_mj)      Join Date: Apr 2007       06-04-2009, 9:35 PM Reply   
wakesurfing is super fun, you might want to get better at it before you bag on it. water is water stop bitching and go ride somewere else.
Old    Kevin (pri3st)      Join Date: Aug 2007       06-04-2009, 9:43 PM Reply   
Whoa..that's definitely NOT what I was saying. I wish I could wakesurf with my boat. Looks like alot of fun. But you can wakesurf anywhere..no need to surf in calm water.
Old    Michael ImObersteg (kickflip_mj)      Join Date: Apr 2007       06-04-2009, 9:51 PM Reply   
keven that was not directed to you at all. sorry. yea you can surf in crap water for sure.
Old    Michael ImObersteg (kickflip_mj)      Join Date: Apr 2007       06-04-2009, 9:53 PM Reply   
dude keven you could totally surf with your boat. it just takes alot of weight in one corner and alittle bit of speed adjustment and your game.
Old    Conar Bottomley (conar)      Join Date: Mar 2009       06-05-2009, 3:41 AM Reply   
Jet skiing is fun its just the inconsidorate people that are anoying...
Old    AMO (amo)      Join Date: Jan 2009       06-05-2009, 5:04 AM Reply   
I hear ya Joe, just frustrating. The wind blows a lot here in MN so finding prime water is tough at times. It sure does make you appreciate those calm days when you get them.

As for what Kevin said, SOOOOOO True. Pisses me off more than jet skiers to see some dude come in and throw a 4 foot surf roller right where you are riding on pristine water. A guy did this to me at Bartlett (AZ) on a weekday when no one was on the lake! We moved, there was plenty of good water to be had.
Old    Nick Yochman (lakemiltonwake08)      Join Date: Oct 2008       06-05-2009, 5:53 AM Reply   
Jetskis throw a 4 inch roller, you can't be serious. However, jetskis behind the boat are very dangerous.
Old    Jason G (jason_ssr)      Join Date: Apr 2001       06-05-2009, 6:14 AM Reply   
Jetskiing in itself is boring. The only way jetskiiers can make it tollerable is to find something to jump, and someone to watch them do it. They feel that right behind a wakeboat is a prime spot for both... thus the problem.
Old    Kyle P (wakeboard_pittsburgh)      Join Date: Jul 2008       06-05-2009, 7:53 AM Reply   
I know that most of you have seen this photo before... I just think that it goes well in all "Jet-Ski Hater" threads.

Upload

Also, I am usually right up there with hating Jet Skis, but the other weekend my buddy showed me a new trick.

If you go about 50mph, flip the reverse, and then hit the gas the jet ski will submarine itself. It is so much fun!

Has anyone else tried this before?
Old    WakeViolater (wakeviolater)      Join Date: Sep 2004       06-05-2009, 8:16 AM Reply   
Upload

i love the opportunity to post this.
Old    Shawn Hammond (eargasm)      Join Date: May 2007       06-05-2009, 8:20 AM Reply   
Love that photo!
Old    H2O Pro Accessories (h2oproaccessories)      Join Date: Sep 2007       06-05-2009, 8:42 AM Reply   
I realize that the water is everyone's. So I do not mind them being on the water. What I do not like is when I have a rider behind the boat and they ride behind him hitting the wake. All it takes is one second for the person to fall and be hit by the jet ski. Another thing is the rider has a harder time concentrating on riding. The rider is more worried about being hit by the jet skier. They don't have to leave the water... just stay away from my wake and rider.
Old    David Christman (lfrider92)      Join Date: Sep 2008       06-05-2009, 8:52 AM Reply   
"is there an unwritten rule that says the water is all yours?"

sorry but i agree with this on this thred

it can be frustrating, but they have just as much as a right to be there as you do.
Old    Garret Schmidt (garret_s)      Join Date: Apr 2006       06-05-2009, 9:05 AM Reply   
both can live in harmony. I just changed my profile picture to reflect this attitude. Haha
Old    DeeCee (jaybee)      Join Date: Aug 2007       06-05-2009, 9:09 AM Reply   
David - If you had read the thread you would have seen that the general consensus is most people are hating on their antics not trying to campaign to get them off the water.
Old    AMO (amo)      Join Date: Jan 2009       06-05-2009, 9:12 AM Reply   
David, I'm still running them over if they are rude or dangerous......Period. Worthless pieces of garbage those jet skis are, unless you have the wake one sea-doo makes and its pulling a wake skater.
Old    David Christman (lfrider92)      Join Date: Sep 2008       06-05-2009, 9:32 AM Reply   
i did read the thread im just saying, ive had quite a few jet skiers jumping our wake or riding behind us. its really frustrating, and they should get a ticket or something for doing that, we took a coast guard class a little over a year ago, and in the handbook, it says that its illegal to jump a jet ski using someones wake. , but im just saying, they pay the same launch fee that we do. and as much as id love to have the whole lake to myself. its not going to happen
Old    AMO (amo)      Join Date: Jan 2009       06-05-2009, 9:42 AM Reply   
Ok David, I agree, to a point. If they won't be respectful of my rider or my line, I'm saying something for sure. And if that doesn't work, I'm running them over.
Old    Small Light (stephan)      Join Date: Nov 2002       06-05-2009, 9:43 AM Reply   
Recently had a guy that was following our riders within 30 feet of us going back and forth. Now two wrongs don't generally make a right (at least my parents always said that), but we decided to drain our weight and return the favor. His eyes got huge as we chased him around the lake for 5 minutes, it was kind of fun, stupid yes, but fun none the less.
Old    AMO (amo)      Join Date: Jan 2009       06-05-2009, 9:43 AM Reply   
Windy again here today. Riding at 2:30, we'll see if we run into this problem again this afternoon.
Old    David Christman (lfrider92)      Join Date: Sep 2008       06-05-2009, 9:46 AM Reply   
haha, alright amo that sounds fair.
I just thought of this, but do you a wet sounds set up on your boat? if you have the mic you could yell at them without stopping the boat. just an idea
Old    David Christman (lfrider92)      Join Date: Sep 2008       06-05-2009, 9:47 AM Reply   
lmao at big and heavy
Old    Jason Pavik (jasonpav)      Join Date: Dec 2008       06-05-2009, 10:01 AM Reply   
the best thing I've ever seen was on a crowded day at the lake where a jet-skier kept jumping people's wakes. Soon though, two wake surfing boats wakes crossed and the jet-skier accidentally hit the double-up. Both him and the jet-ski went flying and he had one of the most hilarious hard crashes I've ever seen
Old    Chris Witham (cwitham)      Join Date: Mar 2009       06-05-2009, 10:16 AM Reply   
I almost got the chance to run over a jet skier. I ride at the delta, where its not like lakes, a bunch of really narrow passages. I was driving back to the Marina, when this idiot on a jet ski was riding just behind me and to my left. I had to make a left turn into the channel, so I started to turn real slowly to show him where I was going (so he would back off). Instead of backing off, slowing down and turning away, the moron speeds up and cuts right in front of my left turn. I'm not kidding he was 10 yards away from the front of my boat. I felt the spray of his jet ski in the driver's seat as he went by. yea it sounds funny to hit a jet skier, I would be pretty pissed if he screwed up my boat like that. Sorry for the novel, I just needed to vent.
Old    Nick Warhol (nwarhol1105)      Join Date: Oct 2008       06-05-2009, 10:27 AM Reply   
I would take a jet ski following me any day over 7 mexican fisherman in a 1970's glastron tri-hull like we had the other day.
Old    AMO (amo)      Join Date: Jan 2009       06-05-2009, 10:40 AM Reply   
LMAO, Nick! Dude that is funny

David, I have the speakers but not the 420 with the mic. That would be perfect, I agree!
Old    K.B.C.            06-05-2009, 10:53 AM Reply   
Awesome Heavy! I've wanted to do that forever. One of my personal goals is to one day own a mullet/jet boat with a huge rooster. Main objective, chase jetskis all over my local lake and criss cross back and forth over their wake.
Old    Chris Witham (cwitham)      Join Date: Mar 2009       06-05-2009, 10:54 AM Reply   
Is that a mullet and a jet boat, or a mullet jet boat? haha
Old    KG - WakeboardNJ.com (wakescene)      Join Date: Feb 2001       06-05-2009, 10:55 AM Reply   
I would take another wakeboard boat wakesurfing all day along aside use then even have to deal with the unpredictability of a Waverunner.
Old    David Christman (lfrider92)      Join Date: Sep 2008       06-05-2009, 11:49 AM Reply   
it was just an idea. we got the 420 because we thought the mic would be a fun toy. we where going to sing karaoke while someone was riding. but we actually use it all the time. it works great for teaching and also for yelling at people for power turning. haha.
Old    DeeCee (jaybee)      Join Date: Aug 2007       06-05-2009, 12:08 PM Reply   
David - The 420 is awesome to yell at them with . My buddy has one on his boat and we use it for pretty much just that. Now that i ride in the bay i don't get as much jet ski traffic but they are definitely there and just as irresponsible as the ones on the lake which makes me nervous as you have huge oil tankers coming in and out of the channel at times.
Old    David Christman (lfrider92)      Join Date: Sep 2008       06-05-2009, 12:46 PM Reply   
the 420 is awesome. i love it. its so usefull
Old    AMO (amo)      Join Date: Jan 2009       06-06-2009, 3:02 PM Reply   
I am happy to report that there was no carnage on the water yesterday as everyone lived in peace on the lake....................at least for a day.
Old    Robert Mitchell (2006maliblue)      Join Date: Mar 2009       06-07-2009, 10:29 PM Reply   
So in a jet ski hate forum did you hear what happened at the dirty "D" today?

Supposedly a jetski turned right in front of a boat and got crushed, rumor at ski beach the guy didn't make it.

My buddies came rolling back from union point were it happened all white saying it was bad they saw it happen.

When are these idiots on jetski's gonna learn there not only a danger to everyone else but themselves too!
Old    Jeffrey Blanchard (eternalshadow)      Join Date: Nov 2001       06-08-2009, 9:26 AM Reply   
We're out at the lake last weekend and some guy on a jetski actually pulls up beside us while we're chilling to ask "so umm come on guys you going to make some more wake for me? It's kinda boring when it's just me"

I didn't even know what to think/say/do. The friends I was riding with were pretty chill though, they even hooked him up with a bevy because he came over to chat.
Old    Stephen Pliler (stevo8290)      Join Date: Sep 2008       06-08-2009, 11:47 AM Reply   
This weekend the lake was So crowded!!! I live in east texas and at the lake we were at, we were like the only boat out there with a tower. I think we were to only boat out there with any water edicate too. We would find a spot and have a nice line, then some bass boats with tubers would come all through it. I know the lake was crowded and its everyones water but not only that, but a tuber came very close to our rider who was down. I hate rednecks in bass boats with tubers the most.
Old    John (mibu)      Join Date: Feb 2003       06-08-2009, 12:03 PM Reply   
Here is the link to the article from the accident this weekend. One dead the other injured.

http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090608/A_NEWS/90608007
Old    Razzman (razzman)      Join Date: Dec 2006       06-08-2009, 12:34 PM Reply   
I agree the lice are a pain and can be dangerous and cannot argue one bit with all of the above, well except runnin' 'em over maybe. . So while were on a roll here, how about the inconsiderate and totally oblivious boat drivers? They actually piss me off more than the lice do! Running a heavily ballasted boat 20-30 yards past a stationary boat at boarding speeds throwing massive rollers at you! That is a dumbass moron stunt and unless your in or near the seat you can't get away from them in time! Took a few over the bow that way recovering riders, but the point is they should know freaking better! Just plain inconsiderate or stupid is what it is. Add a jetski and your really screwed!
Old    Billy (woreout)      Join Date: Aug 2006       06-08-2009, 1:15 PM Reply   
PWCs are like dog pecker gnats.
Old    Razzman (razzman)      Join Date: Dec 2006       06-08-2009, 1:34 PM Reply   
dog pecker gnats ... Good one! Never heard that one before!
Old    AtTheLake (bmartin)      Join Date: Jan 2007       06-08-2009, 2:04 PM Reply   
I'd rather share the same stretch with the average water flea / gnat / roach over the tubers most any day. To be honest, I would rather have the average PWC than some inexperienced wakeboard boat driving in half circles and picking up with power turns. Every once in a while you will run into one that is just too close, but it doesn't ruin my day if a PWC is riding our rollers 150 feet away from the rider.

I am sure most fisherman LOVE it when we ride by...but they do not own the water just like we don't.
Old    H2O Pro Accessories (h2oproaccessories)      Join Date: Sep 2007       06-08-2009, 2:35 PM Reply   
For me it's more about safety.... I just don't see how it's safe for jet skiers to be behind someone riding. When someone falls, the jet skier might not see them because they are more concerned with how much air they are going to get off of the wake. A lot of people on jet ski's are inexperienced when it comes to boating laws and such. I end up finding myself looking out for them then they look out for me. Not everyone is like this.... but where we ride, it's that way for the most part.
Old    Twitch Hambling (themxercr85)      Join Date: Jul 2007       06-08-2009, 3:12 PM Reply   
I love Sea Doos, Ive been riding them since I was about 7 or 8. I definetly respect wakeboarders though considering I am one. I never ride behind boats unless its a 35+ throwing a nice wake, sometimes people get pissed off and every once in a while ppl will take pics of me, Im one of the only ones it seems on our lake that knows where to hit the wake, most dont hit it at the right angle and/or the right spot. I get pretty high and its a pretty nice rush, the most air ive ever gotten was on out old two strokes which are much lighter than ours now and the rear end of the sea doo was around 9 or 10 feet out of the water.

Kyle I know exactly what your doing! we used to do those alll the time on our first set of doos, its super fun but if you do it too much too fast its really hard on the clamshell.

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