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Old    Luke the Drifter (tl_hereford)      Join Date: Nov 2008       05-24-2009, 6:08 AM Reply   
I have a 2000 Supra Launch with a 325 Indmar assault. Motor runs great until I slam it with sacs. Around 2.5k of ballast and the motor will not go over 3500RPM with the throttle to the floor. So I turn the boat off and kill the master power switch to cut all the juice from the batteries. Start the boat back up minus a 250# sac and she runs like a champ. I dont get it? Even if I needed to reprop the motor is still going into a "protection" mode. Any ideas? I had all the filters and fluids changed about 30 hrs ago so I should be good on that.
Old    266CrownlineBR (266crownlinebr)      Join Date: Apr 2007       05-24-2009, 7:30 AM Reply   
Just a guess, but if you are killing the power to the pumps for the ballast, maybe it has something to do with how they are wired that is killing the altenator or some other part of the electrical system.
Old    Greg McNeill (greg2)      Join Date: May 2002       05-24-2009, 9:05 PM Reply   
I don't think your going into a "limp" mode. At a certain point you'll only get "x" rpms if you're over weighted (unless your transmission is slipping).
Old    Luke the Drifter (tl_hereford)      Join Date: Nov 2008       05-25-2009, 4:36 AM Reply   
Aw that sucks! I thought for sure that I would be able to take on more than that. Any prop guru's out there think this can be fixed with a prop swap?
Old    Art (rallyart)      Join Date: Nov 2006       05-25-2009, 7:29 AM Reply   
What speed are you doing when it tops out? If you are not fully on plane then you might have just powered out, from not having enough torque, and a prop change would fix it.
I can't think of any 'protection mode' that would kick in at 3500 unless it's a knock sensor and the way to fix that would be to run higher octane fuel.
Old    Dennis (denystaucd)      Join Date: Feb 2003       05-25-2009, 9:21 AM Reply   
Umm couple things that come to mind. Typically what your describing is an exhaust obstruction. Could it be that your back of the boat is so low, the water is still pushing hard on the exhaust flaps. Creating to much back pressure. I've seen this a bunch of this in trucks with plugged cats that will not go above 3500 rpm and most people tend to think it's the tranny slipping.

Also this condition semi describes a distributor failure, but you would get popping through the throttle body at 3500 rpm.

Cheers,
DC

(Message edited by denystaucd on May 25, 2009)
Old    Dennis (denystaucd)      Join Date: Feb 2003       05-25-2009, 9:22 AM Reply   
Is the supra a single exhaust outlet boat?
Old    Kevin R Baugh (krbaugh)      Join Date: Mar 2002       05-25-2009, 10:29 AM Reply   
I agree with Art At some point you get to to much weight for the prop/engine combo to get you on plane.
Old    Luke the Drifter (tl_hereford)      Join Date: Nov 2008       05-25-2009, 1:38 PM Reply   
Its dual exhaust. And no I'm not fully on plane. And yes sometimes it will jump up to 3600 or 3700 but then it will go right back to 3500. Also when it starts to struggle there is a strong rich exhaust smell. But like I said if I cut the master power it will run 4000rpm for a bit then back to 3500.
Old    Luciano Grimblat (luchog)      Join Date: Jun 2002       05-25-2009, 5:43 PM Reply   
how does it run when unweighted?
Old    Luke the Drifter (tl_hereford)      Join Date: Nov 2008       05-26-2009, 4:57 AM Reply   
Great. no problems @ all. Only under a load and sometimes in the seldom double up runs.
Old    Karl De Looff (boarditup)      Join Date: Jan 2004       05-26-2009, 5:08 AM Reply   
Oil starvation?
Old    Luke the Drifter (tl_hereford)      Join Date: Nov 2008       05-26-2009, 5:25 AM Reply   
Oil level is fine I check it before I take out my boat every time. And my pressure while I'm running never falls below 40 psi.
Old    Luciano Grimblat (luchog)      Join Date: Jun 2002       05-26-2009, 7:26 AM Reply   
You could also check the impeller for missing blades.
Bad fuel is another option.
Old    Greg S (roomservice)      Join Date: Dec 2006       05-26-2009, 8:17 AM Reply   
what's your top speed unloaded? I'm thinking if it's fast (40mph or more) then you may just need to shorten the pitch on the prop a little. If you want to slam it some more, shorten the pitch some more. You'll just lose the top end speed, and really, what wakeboarder really cares about that....?

Exhaust restriction is also a possibility, but i bet it's just the max on that prop/boat combo. Re-prop it, you'll enjoy the better hole shot too.

good luck, prob an easy fix.
Old    AtTheLake (bmartin)      Join Date: Jan 2007       05-26-2009, 11:24 AM Reply   
+1 on lower pitch prop if you want to keep running that weight.

This might make you feel better, but if mine is slammed with 3000lbs plus, it won't get over 3500 RPMs either and barely gets on plane. Just pushing too much weight for that prop pitch / engine torque. I don't load it up that much any more.
Old    Nacho (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       05-26-2009, 1:15 PM Reply   
Sounds like it could be advanced timing issues ("dist failure"), but more likely just an overloaded boat... new prop will fix ya better than new.
Old    Luke the Drifter (tl_hereford)      Join Date: Nov 2008       05-26-2009, 2:30 PM Reply   
bmartin what prop/pitch are you running?
Old    Art (rallyart)      Join Date: Nov 2006       05-26-2009, 2:39 PM Reply   
Nitrous Oxide will get you our of the hole really well.
A 150 hp kit should do the trick.
Old    Luke the Drifter (tl_hereford)      Join Date: Nov 2008       05-26-2009, 3:05 PM Reply   
LOL.... Right.
Old    AtTheLake (bmartin)      Join Date: Jan 2007       05-26-2009, 8:07 PM Reply   
Luke, IDK what pitch, 4 blade OJ that used to be a back up that I put on when my ACME was dinged but haven't switched out yet. The pitch is too high, my orignal prop did OK.
Old    Chris Wylie (mtnm2)      Join Date: Apr 2008       05-27-2009, 8:26 PM Reply   
I have a similar problem with my malibu. It will not go over 3700 no matter what. I replaced the rotor and cap. Fuel filter and the alternator was bad so I replaced it. Still have the same issue.
Old    Luke the Drifter (tl_hereford)      Join Date: Nov 2008       05-27-2009, 11:38 PM Reply   
Sucks to be us. I think Im gonna bite the bullet and take her in for a check up. What motor do you have?

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