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Old     (swellbow)      Join Date: Feb 2004       03-23-2009, 12:49 PM Reply   
Any suggestions on what is looking the best or riding the best this summer...Was looking at the x-1 or the 210 Nautique. Any thought guy's and girl's
Old     (05mobiuslsv)      Join Date: Apr 2006       03-23-2009, 1:19 PM Reply   
Oh boy here we go again.....
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       03-23-2009, 1:29 PM Reply   
Its better than...

"should I buy a red x1 with 100 hrs, or a red x1 with 110 hrs? What do you think?"
Old     (wakedoctor)      Join Date: Dec 2004       03-23-2009, 1:52 PM Reply   
Just look directly across from the thread topic a use the search link. There is enough info there to write a small novel.

(Message edited by WakeDoctor on March 23, 2009)
Old     (bill_airjunky)      Join Date: Apr 2002       03-23-2009, 1:54 PM Reply   
No kidding..... how about some background here swellbow? Like what are you going to ride behind it? How many people do you expect everyday?

What area are you in? And what dealers are in your area?
Old     (sidekicknicholas)      Join Date: Mar 2007       03-23-2009, 2:01 PM Reply   
I would take the 210 over X-1 any day just for interior space
Old     (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       03-23-2009, 2:47 PM Reply   
Are we talking a new 210 or a 2006 and older. If it is the older 210 than you can pick either and have an amazing boat. A 2007 and newer 210 doesn't compare at all to an X1. You would want to compare it to an X15.
Old     (05mobiuslsv)      Join Date: Apr 2006       03-23-2009, 2:50 PM Reply   
I would take an X-15 over an X-1 anyday.
Old     (swellbow)      Join Date: Feb 2004       03-23-2009, 3:45 PM Reply   
Got ya guys... Yeah my bad. It is a brand new boat 2010 We have had 4 mastercrafts and pops is just ready to get another one. I just want to make sure it is the right boat. We wakeboard a few days a week along with waksurfing. We also have a poontoon boat and jet skis so this is a boat for riding. Also alot of wake surfing. It will sit on Lake Tulloch all summer. Thanks again for the help...
Old     (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       03-23-2009, 3:54 PM Reply   
X15 if you like to surf then. Nu Bu has experienced the surf wake with extra weight.
Old     (mhunter)      Join Date: Mar 2008       03-23-2009, 4:38 PM Reply   
210 great wakes doesn't need as much ballast better fuel economy and cost much less than a X15. If dad is a MC guy it won't matter that's what he will buy.
Good luck
Old     (hatepain)      Join Date: Aug 2006       03-23-2009, 5:51 PM Reply   
Did you make a decision? Your profile says 210 TEAM...
Old     (swellbow)      Join Date: Feb 2004       03-23-2009, 6:15 PM Reply   
That is my boat of choice and the boat I prefer to ride on...
Old     (swellbow)      Join Date: Feb 2004       03-23-2009, 6:17 PM Reply   
I am demoing everything thursday morning and I will let you all know how it goes down..
Old     (saceone)      Join Date: Jan 2009       03-23-2009, 7:34 PM Reply   
tell us which color you picked! 210's look good in black ;)
I kidddd.
Old     (zaneschwenk)      Join Date: Apr 2004       03-23-2009, 8:49 PM Reply   
Earth & Ocean

PM me if you want some opinions, I have ridden all the MC's all of the CC and Bu's too, I'd be happy to give you some insight on the differences, also not sure what year model MC you have currently but there are some major construction differences the = benefits to consider. PM me if you'd like.

Zane Schwenk
Old     (mkrueger313)      Join Date: Jan 2007       03-23-2009, 9:44 PM Reply   
I bet Zane thinks you should buy a MasterCraft... just a guess though!!
Old     (wakeitnofakeit)      Join Date: Jan 2009       03-23-2009, 11:09 PM Reply   
OK, Just for fun demo a Wakecraft. I would just like to hear what you think.
Old     (swellbow)      Join Date: Feb 2004       03-23-2009, 11:11 PM Reply   
Who has a wakecraft in Sac. Or should we just ask Dve the Aussi to bring one to Folsom on Thursday morning... Also is there a dealer for Epic boats left in the Sacramento area...
Old     (wakeitnofakeit)      Join Date: Jan 2009       03-23-2009, 11:24 PM Reply   
I would call Dave. I am sure he can arrange something. Let me know if you need any contact info.
Old     (swellbow)      Join Date: Feb 2004       03-23-2009, 11:25 PM Reply   
You could send me his contact info so I do not need to hunt it down. Thanks Dan
Old     (wakeitnofakeit)      Join Date: Jan 2009       03-23-2009, 11:42 PM Reply   
The phone number is (209)357-7722. He usually answers the phone 90 percent of the time. If he doesn't it will be his son Paul. If you do not get a hold of him call me at (603)978-2052 and I will call his cell phone. I am not sure if he wants his cell phone number made public.
Old     (tampawake)      Join Date: Mar 2008       03-24-2009, 6:20 AM Reply   
I am sure Zane would be pro MC but that does not mean he can't explain the differences and also be very objective. I have an MC and can tell you what I like about the different brands not everyone is totally brand blind. Not everyone can get opinions from pro riders you got nothing to loose PM him.
Old     (mc4life)      Join Date: Feb 2009       03-24-2009, 6:40 AM Reply   
go with the boat u like the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old     (tj_in_kc)      Join Date: Jan 2008       03-24-2009, 7:14 AM Reply   
I would go with the 210 Nautique over Mastercraft anyday. Better quality, better customer service, firmer-rampier wake.

Also, i like the tower on the new 210s better, very solid no rattle like the MC towers.

p.s. i own a bu.
Old     (rbeckei)      Join Date: May 2007       03-24-2009, 8:29 AM Reply   
I agree with "Go big" and "tj" I would not waste my time with a wakecraft. 210 Nautique is a much better boat. It would be a step dowm. That is my .02 cents. enjoy what ever you get.
Old     (sinkoumn)      Join Date: Jan 2007       03-24-2009, 8:56 AM Reply   
^agreed, even though it's not Zane's problem, it would be sweet to see that guy get some help
Old     (aarond0083)      Join Date: Apr 2007       03-24-2009, 9:01 AM Reply   
[Puts Owner Goggles On]

C'mon man, this is a no brainer. SAN 210 of course.

[Takes Goggles Off}

Really man, you need to go out and demo some boats to see which one you like the best.
Old     (swellbow)      Join Date: Feb 2004       03-24-2009, 11:45 AM Reply   
So I did PM Zane..Also as far as driving a few boats, Yes I think that is the best way to make an educated buying decision. It is a lot of money to just go buy one. It is also not my 1st Rodeo. I do know that Nautiques have some of the best quality in the industry and I would not put Wakecraft in that class yet. ALTHOUGH I m sure Dave makes a great boat.
Old     (wakeitnofakeit)      Join Date: Jan 2009       03-24-2009, 11:23 PM Reply   
I just ask that you take a ride.
Old     (innov8)      Join Date: May 2005       03-25-2009, 9:00 AM Reply   
I am a little bias myself, but I would go 210 over an x-1 all day every day.
Have fun demoing the boats.
Old     (swellbow)      Join Date: Feb 2004       03-25-2009, 11:01 PM Reply   
So no more X-1 ... It is between the X-15 and the 210... Driving and riding behind both tomorrow morning... And Yes everyone Zanes info was helpfull. Thanks everyone
Old     (wakeitnofakeit)      Join Date: Jan 2009       03-25-2009, 11:09 PM Reply   
Just go for a ride on a wakecraft.
Old     (lifetimewarranty)      Join Date: Oct 2008       03-25-2009, 11:19 PM Reply   
What's a wakecraft?
Old     (wakeitnofakeit)      Join Date: Jan 2009       03-25-2009, 11:24 PM Reply   
Old     (zaneschwenk)      Join Date: Apr 2004       03-26-2009, 5:11 AM Reply   
Have fun on the demo SWELLBOW!!

The best part is you're getting to go out on the boat today....many will not...I will but many will not. HAHA anyway this was a very constructive post, I tend to avoid some of these conversations sometimes because it can become heated etc, but I was throughly impressed with everyone on this thread. It's nice to see the fellow WW participants helping each other out!

Old     (rbeckei)      Join Date: May 2007       03-26-2009, 6:30 AM Reply   
Dan Dulong, Enough!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't push your crap. Listen to the writer of the Thread and try to give the writer advise on what he/she is asking about.

Have a nice day
Old     (swellbow)      Join Date: Feb 2004       03-26-2009, 5:48 PM Reply   
So the demos were fun today... Rode behind both boats. Both have great wakes.Small with stock Ballast but great shape and fun. The X-15 was bigger and is rated for 14 people. I must say that I like the 210 better. But is smaller and only holds 10 people. Getting prices from both dealers as we speak... It will be a waiting game for now. We will see should make a decision tonight or tomorrow. Thanks again everyone
Old     (lifetimewarranty)      Join Date: Oct 2008       03-27-2009, 7:19 AM Reply   
Gotta love those types of "tough" decisions!
Old     (aarond0083)      Join Date: Apr 2007       03-27-2009, 8:09 AM Reply   
Good luck on your decision. Both are great boats and I am sure you'll be happy with whatever you end up with.

What tower was is on the Nautique you are looking at? I just upgraded to a 2009 210 with a Titan. I think this is the best tower ever put on a wake boat. I am a Nautique guy and the latest MasterCraft tower was always my favorite... until I saw the Titan. It is super strong, flows with the line of the boat perfectly, and polished SS. The new spinners on the FCT-1 and FCT-2 are in the same league as MC too. Finally.

(Message edited by aarond0083 on March 27, 2009)
Old     (innov8)      Join Date: May 2005       03-27-2009, 9:13 AM Reply   
210 is rated for 12 people and we have had 12 in a 210 before.
Have fun on the water!!
Old     (swellbow)      Join Date: Feb 2004       03-27-2009, 9:27 PM Reply   
What year 210 is rated for 12 people? If you have a newer 210 rated for 12 people please post a pic of it so I can see why the one we demoed was only rated for 10.
Old     (aarond0083)      Join Date: Apr 2007       03-27-2009, 9:40 PM Reply   
I have a 2009 210. It is rated for 12. I'll post a pic for you tomorrow if you like.
Old     (swellbow)      Join Date: Feb 2004       03-27-2009, 9:43 PM Reply   
Yeah we are looking at an 08... Time to call the dealer and ask for the 09 now. What kind of price range was the 09 in... Yes Please post a pick of the 12 people plauqe is you can ... Thanks
Old     (joe_crawley)      Join Date: Jan 2007       03-27-2009, 11:05 PM Reply   
I've had 13 in my X1 on one occasion, talk about crowded. X1 wake is better and more consistent than the 210 wake, but the X15 beats them both. 210 is roomier than the X1. Get the X15 if you have the cash, otherwise get the 210 if you need the room or get the X1 if you need the wake.

It'll be summer soon so you should try them both out and not rely on wakeworld opinions. >90% of the people on here have never ridden in all 3 and have very little insight into what you should do.

EDIT: Saw you tested the 15 and 210, let us know which one you get.

(Message edited by joe_crawley on March 27, 2009)
Old     (swellbow)      Join Date: Feb 2004       03-28-2009, 8:22 AM Reply   
Thanks Joe... We have been riding for more then 10 yrs now. So yes wake is important but we will run extra weight in either boat so I think we can get a clean nice wake on either one. I posted on here to get some info on the boats, I was a sales manager for Nautiques a few years ago, but I do not know much about all of there new lines. We drove and rode behind the x-15 and the 210 both were nice. So now we have one more demo on this Sunday both boats again. Bringing pops out the final decision maker. Price is always important but they are both within 5k of each other so not a real big deal. We just want a boat that we can put a lot of hours and have a great time with no issues...
Old     (innov8)      Join Date: May 2005       03-28-2009, 8:30 AM Reply   
Check into the warranties as well with both manufacturers, see who has the better warranty.

Specs for 09 210 above.
Old     (swellbow)      Join Date: Feb 2004       03-28-2009, 9:24 AM Reply   
Thanks Jeff, I guess the deal maker would be an 09 instead of an 08. The 08 is rated for 10 people and they are supposed to be the same boat.. Freakin Nautique
Old     (mhunter)      Join Date: Mar 2008       03-28-2009, 9:31 AM Reply   
You were a sales manager for Nautique and you need your dads money to buy? How old are you?
Old     (innov8)      Join Date: May 2005       03-28-2009, 10:29 AM Reply   
No problem swellbow, you should be able to get a good deal on an 09 210.
I would still get the 08 210 over the other two choices.
Old     (swellbow)      Join Date: Feb 2004       03-28-2009, 11:33 AM Reply   
Sales Manager yeah for a year, and then rode the mortgage indusrty wave for the last 5 and now I have a Board shop and make no money... Iam 31. So yes the Boat is Dad s money... Why how old do you need to be to work for Nautique
Old     (mhunter)      Join Date: Mar 2008       03-28-2009, 2:12 PM Reply   
It just sounded like you were in your teens living at home. Being a sales manager for Nautique that didn't convince you?
Old     (swellbow)      Join Date: Feb 2004       03-28-2009, 5:08 PM Reply   
If it was my check I would be riding behind a brand new 210 right now...
Old     (swellbow)      Join Date: Feb 2004       03-29-2009, 1:38 PM Reply   
Just Bought the 210... That boat is going to be a blast this summer... Pretty stoked to see Pops who has been Die Hard MC guy for life make the change... Once again everyone thanks for the help.Zane thanks again for your time and effort put forth Very COOL of you!!!!
Old     (hockey9)      Join Date: Mar 2009       03-29-2009, 1:43 PM Reply   
Post some pics! Congrats
Old     (wakemikey)      Join Date: Mar 2008       03-29-2009, 5:22 PM Reply   
Glad to see E&O is doing so well.

Can't help but wonder why buy new??
Old     (aarond0083)      Join Date: Apr 2007       03-29-2009, 8:28 PM Reply   
Some people like to have new boats. And now is a great time to buy if you can afford to do so.

E&O, congrats on the 210. You and your Dad made the right choice. I am on my third one and they keep getting better and better. You are going to love it. Please post some pictures.
Old     (innov8)      Join Date: May 2005       04-01-2009, 8:53 AM Reply   
Congrats E&O enjoy your new 210!!
Did you buy an 08 or 09?

(Message edited by innov8 on April 01, 2009)


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