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Old    mitchp1002            02-12-2009, 12:29 AM Reply   
I ride 12 degrees on the outside and 15 degrees on the inside. Pretty wide stance too.
Old    Bryan (westsiderippa)      Join Date: Dec 2006       02-12-2009, 12:36 AM Reply   
as wide as it will go and ducked like a motha f---!!!!!!!!
Old    Benjamin (bendow)      Join Date: Sep 2005       02-12-2009, 4:56 AM Reply   
all the way out

ducked well
Old    David Christman (lfrider92)      Join Date: Sep 2008       02-12-2009, 7:44 AM Reply   
all the way out on the board, and 22 degrees pointed out. and i ride the lyman, so all the way out is rather wide compared to most boards
Old    Mike (mike3500)      Join Date: Jun 2008       02-12-2009, 8:19 AM Reply   
When you guys say "ducked like a mo fo", do you mean beyond your god-given naturally ducked stance? I'm assuming it doesn't get uncomfortable?

I have mine set as wide as possible, but my duck is set as my natural stance. I jump in the air, land, and look at my feet. This is how I gauge how "ducked" I should be. Should I be ducked out more than that, to gain stability?

duck, duck, duck, duck, duck. Never thought I would use it so many times in one paragraph.
Old    Esteban (scrupulous)      Join Date: Jun 2006       02-12-2009, 8:24 AM Reply   
Wide and ducked. How far you duck your stance kinda' depends on two factors, you natural "duck - ness", and how far out your stance is. If you really widen your stance, ducking can help alleviate some of the stress on your knees.
Old    Ben Ax (hawkeye7708)      Join Date: Feb 2007       02-12-2009, 8:28 AM Reply   
Pretty wide, I used to ride all the way out with a slight duck on my stance on my 143 Covin, but when I got my 08 Shane boots, they forced me to go one in from the widest stance with the same duck. I wasn't too sure, but i put the board on, and did some squats, and it actually felt great, so I guess it'll just depend on the size of the board.
Old    Josh (dillls)      Join Date: Jul 2008       02-12-2009, 8:29 AM Reply   
As narrow as possible and pigeoned son!!!

pigeon is the new duck.
Old    Bill Montanye (bill)      Join Date: Feb 2001       02-12-2009, 8:30 AM Reply   
138 size board ,size 10 bindings,left foot foward one in and ducked out +-12 degrees
Old    gangstar (joe_crawley)      Join Date: Jan 2007       02-12-2009, 11:32 AM Reply   
22.5" neutral +/-12
Old    Spin2Win (spin2win)      Join Date: Feb 2006       02-12-2009, 11:56 AM Reply   
All the way in both feet facing the nose. Like a down hill snowboarder.. I had to custom drill out my bindings to get that extra arrow dynamic stance.
Old    Ben Ax (hawkeye7708)      Join Date: Feb 2007       02-12-2009, 1:09 PM Reply   
STANCE UPDATE: After watching Randall Harris in Natural Born Thrillaz and Danny Harf in Counterfeit This, I've decided to remove my rear binding in an attempt to appear more manly and pull 1 foot tricks. 1 Binding is the new "Safe/Sensible/Logical" 2 Bindings!
Old    Chris M (chrism4668)      Join Date: Sep 2007       02-12-2009, 1:16 PM Reply   
watch this space for a blown knee! :-)
Old    michaelspsp (michaelspsp)      Join Date: Sep 2007       02-12-2009, 1:20 PM Reply   
well put chris M!
Old    Roddyrod (wakeslife)      Join Date: Jul 2005       02-12-2009, 1:36 PM Reply   
Anyone ride all the way out on the new CWB decks with the 6 inch plates? That's a pretty wide stance...
Old    justin (wake2wake_66)      Join Date: Nov 2008       02-12-2009, 1:38 PM Reply   
Roddyrod, I have. It feels about the same as last years.
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       02-12-2009, 1:38 PM Reply   
all the way and a nice comfortable duck to it.
Old    C.I.E..... Evan (guido)      Join Date: Jul 2002       02-12-2009, 2:10 PM Reply   
Roddyrod... That's the only way. GANGSTA' stance!!! Ha, ha, ha.. I love it. I wont even ride my old CWB decks anymore because I can't get the stance wide enough.
Old    Johnny (johnny_defacto)      Join Date: Sep 2006       02-12-2009, 2:11 PM Reply   
all the way in and pigeon toed!!!
Old    Mike Powell (deltaratmike)      Join Date: Jun 2008       02-12-2009, 2:23 PM Reply   
^^^same as Andy^^^
but for you guys who dont have a bunch of stance knowledge like just for example, Mike3500, all the way out and ducked super f***** ridiculous does relieve knee stress but however does cause your knees to buckle alot easier. I am sure that most people do not even realize it but I know that somone can back me up that too ducked is bad for your knees. But comfortable is the way to go, dont over do it.

I used to work at a boardshop. The reps give the highs and the lows of everything just about on a wakeboard. Nintzel or any other pro rider could even tell you that.

Andy next time you are in the bay area you should hit up me or M-dizzle, we ride together all the time and would be happy to have you out for a set or 2.
Old    Andrew Proses (drewproses)      Join Date: Oct 2008       02-12-2009, 2:38 PM Reply   
I ride all the way out, ducked 15 degrees both feet. Im 5'10" 170.
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       02-12-2009, 2:53 PM Reply   
Mike,

that would be sick man! I am hoping to bounce out that way in the spring for CIE Spring Ride, I will hit you guys up for sure.

I dont know if this is true or not but I was told (from a Doctor) that while a SUPER Duck stance seems easy on the knees, it put them into situations that could pop ACL and MCLs more frequently due to the twisting motion that is increase because of the super duck. He then followed that up by saying that's why "most" snowboard rentals at ski areas set the boards up with Zero Duck. Again Dont have anything but word of mouth to back this up with.
Old    Jason Callen (westsidarider)      Join Date: Feb 2003       02-12-2009, 3:47 PM Reply   
i used to ride all the way out and ducked as much as possible. last year i started playing with my stance a bit and found a few things to be quite intriguing.

when all the way out and ducked all the way i found that stylie grabs were easier and i was able to poke stuff out more.

when i backed off a little on the duck to a more comfortable neutral position i found that stock inverts and spins became easier but slightly less stylie

then i went one in on both feet and kept the duck to a comfortable position i found that technical tricks ( ie.. blind landings, mobes, and spins more than 3-s like 5s and 7s) became easier. grabs were possible but still didnt feel like there was as much style to them.

i guess i have some more playing around to do this year
Old    Jason Shehan (norcalbordr)      Join Date: Feb 2006       02-12-2009, 3:59 PM Reply   
all the way out, Jenna Jameson style ducked feet
Old    Caleb Blauwet (cb23)      Join Date: Jan 2009       02-12-2009, 8:25 PM Reply   
I'm going to college for athletic training and the best way to tear apart an ACL is with your foot ducked way out and then have your knee bend in (buckle towards the center of the board) which can happen much easier with a very wide stance....explains alot of things i think
Old    Luke the Drifter (tl_hereford)      Join Date: Nov 2008       02-12-2009, 8:37 PM Reply   
^^^^ I just experienced this it sux.
Old    Mitch (wakemitch)      Join Date: Jun 2005       02-12-2009, 10:32 PM Reply   
but caleb, its the cool thing to do. youve gotta have that gangsta stance...
Old    BC (bcnumber1)      Join Date: Sep 2008       02-13-2009, 5:45 AM Reply   
I agree with Caleb, being a physical therapy student the more ducked your feet are the more pressure is being put on your medial(inside) knee and ulitmately your ACL and PCL.
Old    Jay Conrad (pwningjr)      Join Date: Apr 2007       02-13-2009, 5:36 PM Reply   
2nd from the inside, ~15-20 degrees (stupid cwb messing with the degree marks making them different for left and right boots). I'm a pretty short guy and not very gangsta :-)
Old    Eder Garavito Garavito (spicychalupa69)      Join Date: May 2005       02-13-2009, 5:52 PM Reply   
As Such

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Old    Caleb Rountree (dlwsrider)      Join Date: Apr 2007       02-15-2009, 9:19 PM Reply   
"but caleb, its the cool thing to do. youve gotta have that gangsta stance..."

Wow, do your husbands ride too? Jeez, thank god Mitch is here to set you pansies straight. If you don't ride all the way out with your feet so ducked the toes point in opposite directions, you're not a man.
Old    Caleb Blauwet (cb23)      Join Date: Jan 2009       02-16-2009, 12:04 PM Reply   
haha agreed . . . i would much rather not be a "gangsta" and have my original ACL's
Old    Philip (n00b)      Join Date: Mar 2006       02-16-2009, 12:39 PM Reply   
all out with a +-12deg duck.

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