ya dude. that is what i was thinkin. I have been skatin quite a bit because i hurt my knee. I am hittin stuff like front and back shuvs 90 shuvs off the lip re entry shuvs and wake2wake jumps/grabs. wakeskatin is super fun, i have been doin it for a while and have won state a few times but that is in kansas, not many skaters in kansas.