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Old    brad (airwaker)      Join Date: Sep 2007       06-07-2008, 6:43 AM Reply   
i have a pair of 2006 shane CT bindings. im looking at getting a new pair of '07 or '08 bindings. i loved my shanes, but the 07 watson CT has caught my eye (esp for $200). whats yalls experience w/ the watson boots?
Old    WakeMikey (wakemikey)      Join Date: Mar 2008       06-07-2008, 7:59 AM Reply   
I have the 07 OT Watsons. They are extremly comfy. The 08s I looked at but didn't want to pay for the upgrade when my board is an 07 too. The 08's have a better baseplate and the look is a little more streamlined. I am perfectly happy with my 07s.

My other advise would be take them to a pro ship to have the plates mounted and the liners heat molded (if they offer that service). The plates can be hard to get mounted. Find your angles and tell the shop. Or use a high-torque plug-in drill w/ the correct size bit.
Old    Ozark King (onthewatermo)      Join Date: Jan 2008       06-07-2008, 8:09 AM Reply   
I sent an email to an old wakeboarding friend last night praising the 07 CT Watsons as the greatest invention since multi-directional boards...planning on riding them until they need replacing and replace with the same.
Old    Nick Schrein (wakeboardern1)      Join Date: Aug 2007       06-07-2008, 8:35 AM Reply   
I love my 07 Watson's but go figure I've been putting a lot of stress on them lately, and they've started coming apart a little bit, which is odd, cause they should have lasted a little longer. Anyways, just gives me an excuse to upgrade after this season is over. Gunna pick up the 08 LTDs when the 09 gear comes in and prices drop on 08 stuff...

Definitely some of the comfiest things ever. Like, comfier than any pair of shoes I've ever owned.
Old    Ben Ax (hawkeye7708)      Join Date: Feb 2007       06-07-2008, 9:47 AM Reply   
I've got an 07 pair of Shanes in the mail that shoudl be droppin on my doorstep today... i'll post in ASAP! i may wear them aroudn to a few grad parties
Old    Clint (lffreak)      Join Date: Jan 2008       06-07-2008, 10:27 AM Reply   
I got the 08 CT watsons and they are amazing.They are soooo comfy you can ride around in them all day. They also have great ankle support. GET THEM
Old    David Williams (wakeworld)      Join Date: Jan 1997       06-07-2008, 11:01 AM Reply   
I've got the Watson open toes and they are the most comfortable binding I've ever worn. I didn't think you could get more comfy than the Transits, but they did it. I'd actually like to give the Vantage boots a try. I'm really liking that easy velcro entry. If they're anywhere near the comfort of the Transits or Watsons, I'll be sold.
Old    Mitch (wakemitch)      Join Date: Jun 2005       06-07-2008, 11:12 AM Reply   
David, they are more comfortable in my opinion. Tons of heel to tow support but nice and soft side to side. Try them on dude, you'll be impressed and they are a great price.
Old    Ben Ax (hawkeye7708)      Join Date: Feb 2007       06-07-2008, 11:17 AM Reply   
Mitch, I've heard mixed reviews on the strap entry on the Vantages. I've heard that their rock solid, then some that say they lose their stick. Whats your opinion? I think its a great idea, and they definitely look sick. I thought it was 3M Hook n' Loop, not velcro, but maybe i'm just readin into it too much
Old    Mitch (wakemitch)      Join Date: Jun 2005       06-07-2008, 11:55 AM Reply   
For my previous post: heel to toe*

Ben, its 3M's highest grade stuff. I believe each strap is rated for 3000 pulls or something like that. I havent had any personal long term experience with the bindings because i primarily wakeskate, but i have yet to have a customer come back with the boots for any type of warranty issue or bad velcro and it is definitely a top seller.

(Message edited by wakemitch on June 07, 2008)
Old    Ben Ax (hawkeye7708)      Join Date: Feb 2007       06-07-2008, 12:01 PM Reply   
Thanks man! i really appreciate it!
Old    Cliff (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       06-07-2008, 12:35 PM Reply   
I love the open toe, but I have a pair of 07 closed toe and they hurt my feet
I have tried to heat them but it didn't help

I get about 15 to 20 minutes of riding and have to pull them off

I have wide feet....and I have heard this from others with wide feet

...just thought you should know..........
Old    Mitch (wakemitch)      Join Date: Jun 2005       06-07-2008, 1:06 PM Reply   
Cliff, from what ive seen with customers is that LFs are a little bit more narrow. I dont have wide feet so i like it that im not slipping forward.
Old    Travis Morita (idrumyay)      Join Date: Jan 2008       06-07-2008, 1:24 PM Reply   
my feet are a little on the wide side too. I have the 07 OT shanes. At first my foot started to cramp a little bit after riding for about 15 min. Eventually, it got longer and longer before they started to cramp, and now they never do. Almost all LF bindings are ridiculously comfy if you ask me. Though, they may need a little breaking in.

...by the way, I wear a size 12 shoes and use the 10-11 bindings. I like to leave room for them to stretch out just a bit...so I guess you could expect them to be a little tight for the first few rides
Old    Ken (ghostrider_2)      Join Date: Aug 2004       06-07-2008, 10:24 PM Reply   
heat molded at a dealer? Isnt a hot-ass tub of water the same thing?

I just got the 08 CT Shanes, and they are more comfortable than most sneakers!

(Message edited by ghostrider 2 on June 07, 2008)
Old    Al - Pal (watson_134_lf)      Join Date: Nov 2007       06-07-2008, 10:32 PM Reply   
I've got 08 watsons and there super comfey, not to mention there super light. They also have that fancy new plate that goes all the way across the base of the footbed (toes to heels), which actually has better response. IMO, I'd wait untill the 08s go on sale
Old    Joe Umali (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       06-07-2008, 11:14 PM Reply   
i'm still rockin' the '06 watsons. i've tried several newer bindings, but i keep going back to the watsons.

i still wanna try the shanes, though.
Old    eric (eas)      Join Date: Nov 2001       06-09-2008, 10:35 AM Reply   
my experience is that shanes fit narrower feet better....they squeeze me down too much....and I like a tight binder.

anyway, I had the 07 OT watsons until they came apart where the upper met the footbed.....now I have the 08 CT and the baseplate is already cracking near the bolts. I guess a stiff binding and rigid baseplate makes for some major stress. definitely comfy though.
Old    Nick Schrein (wakeboardern1)      Join Date: Aug 2007       06-09-2008, 11:54 AM Reply   
How long after you first noticed separation did it take the bindings to completely come apart Eric?
Old    Hate2party (slipknot)      Join Date: Aug 2001       06-09-2008, 11:58 AM Reply   
Watsons ltd, on my 2nd pair of OT Watsons, most comfortable bindings there are, if you like stiff. Unless you try on a molded to your foot Ronix One. (my next pair)

The 07 Shane's were not as stiff in the ankle leg area.
Old    Josh (romes)      Join Date: Sep 2006       06-09-2008, 12:34 PM Reply   
i've gone thru 5 pairs of watsons since last spring. comfy as all hell tho. but i think i'm gonna move to the shanes.
Old    eric (eas)      Join Date: Nov 2001       06-09-2008, 12:44 PM Reply   
nick: I rode with the separation for about two months at the end of last season so I can't say that they completely "came apart". I'm sure it was only a matter of time, but once I saw both sides of both bindings starting to separate at the toe (where the overlay meets the bed), I knew LF would take care of it so I just watched it closely and finished the season. It took FOREVER to get my 08 CT Ltds but I really like them. (p.s. thanks to Boat & RV World in Edmond, OK for the hook up!) Anyway, it just seems like the watson's don't have to be as "tight" to be locked in.....meaning it doesn't squeeze your foot, as much as it holds your foot....it that makes sense. Plus, I like a stiff binding too....and these def fit the bill.
Old    Nick Schrein (wakeboardern1)      Join Date: Aug 2007       06-09-2008, 12:47 PM Reply   
I love my 07 watsons, but I just spotted the separation on the inside edge of one of the bindings last week or so, and it's gotten somewhat worse already. I'm concerned, since I don't have the money right now to replace them.
Old    Josh (romes)      Join Date: Sep 2006       06-09-2008, 2:20 PM Reply   
nick just keep wearin them and when they blow out just take them back to shop you got them from or give LF a call and they'll give you the address to send them to get them warrantied.
Old    eric (eas)      Join Date: Nov 2001       06-09-2008, 3:26 PM Reply   
jr is right....but be prepared to wait...unless you have "friends"....
Old    Ben Ax (hawkeye7708)      Join Date: Feb 2007       06-09-2008, 3:31 PM Reply   
my 07 shanes just showed up in the mail this mornin. Got em on the Premier right now... hittin up the water in an hour and a half. I'll let all ya know how it goes!!
Old    Tom Donohue (waketherainbow)      Join Date: Oct 2007       06-09-2008, 3:35 PM Reply   
Got the 07 Watsons and they are sick!! Picked up a pair of Vantages earlier this month, but have only taken two sets in them. They are great too! I don't think you can go wrong with Liquid Force bindings.
Old    Nick Schrein (wakeboardern1)      Join Date: Aug 2007       06-09-2008, 4:23 PM Reply   
Isn't the warranty only a year though? I thought it would be cool to buy them in march of last year, so wouldn't the warranty be up?
Old    brad (airwaker)      Join Date: Sep 2007       06-09-2008, 7:25 PM Reply   
i just picked up a pair of 2007 CT watsons new on ebay for $104 delivered!! im currently using 2006 shane CTs. cant wait to compare them!
Old    Ben Ax (hawkeye7708)      Join Date: Feb 2007       06-10-2008, 11:14 AM Reply   
The 07 shanes are insane... soo cushy... landings from 7+ feet were like buttah! and i felt so much more locked into the board. It also was very nice to have a binding that was "made" to allow lateral movement. I like poking out the majority of my grabs and my old 3DS boots were kinda "temperamental" when it came to that. So sick..... best boots yet!
Old    Ken (ghostrider_2)      Join Date: Aug 2004       06-10-2008, 11:44 AM Reply   
Do you wear them tight or some what loose with the top draw strap?
Old    Ben Ax (hawkeye7708)      Join Date: Feb 2007       06-10-2008, 12:01 PM Reply   
i wore em with the top tight. They seemed to flex really nice. Feels more supportive i think.
Old    brad (airwaker)      Join Date: Sep 2007       06-10-2008, 1:56 PM Reply   
if you were the shanes loose they will hold water and feel like your wearing lead boots.
Old    Anthony Moe (megatmoe)      Join Date: Jul 2007       06-10-2008, 3:28 PM Reply   
I have the 07 Shane CT and I keep smashing my right big toe. Im gonna try and jam a piece of foam in there to make it stop cause my toe nail isnt gonna last much longer if I dont do something!
Old    Brian Reguly (theczech)      Join Date: Feb 2008       06-10-2008, 3:45 PM Reply   
Just got the 08 Shanes CT, ive only taken 2 sets in them but man are they comfy. Felt like I could have ridden for hours with no discomfort
Old    Ewing (johnsvt)      Join Date: Dec 2006       06-10-2008, 4:08 PM Reply   
I tried a pair of 08 transits and liked them, but they were a little tight...would the watsons have a slightly wider fit to them.

(Message edited by johnsvt on June 10, 2008)

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