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Old    Kimberly Conlee (houstongirl626)      Join Date: Mar 2008       03-17-2008, 5:02 PM Reply   
Need help - Woman rider - looking to buy first wakeboard boat but I feel like I am being taken -Does anyone know MSRP on Malibu Wakesetter VLX 08 - and what about MasterCraft x-2

Can't find much info on the web with prices -
Old    Wil Deahl (flatcher)      Join Date: Feb 2008       03-17-2008, 5:09 PM Reply   
I believe MSRP on VLX will be in the mid 70's for a fairly well equipped one. But you shouldn't pay more than 85% of the MSRP. I believe the X-2 will MSRP around the low 80's and again apply the 85% rule. (In other words take off 15%. I know I'm stating the obvious but just want to be clear.)
Old    Kimberly Conlee (houstongirl626)      Join Date: Mar 2008       03-17-2008, 5:17 PM Reply   
vlx 4 speakers - mirror - swivel racks - 2 batteries - bimini top - 6 disc changer - among others - 59k - is there anything i should be getting that I am not
Old    Who Cares (liljohn)      Join Date: May 2007       03-17-2008, 5:19 PM Reply   
power wedge. wake hull. and full 4 tank ballast.would be on the mandatory list for that price.
Old    Kimberly Conlee (houstongirl626)      Join Date: Mar 2008       03-17-2008, 5:24 PM Reply   
all of that included - sorry - like i said new to this - I am kind of getting that price is high?
Old    Tyler McCurdy (tyboarder03)      Join Date: Nov 2003       03-17-2008, 5:37 PM Reply   
as long as thats with a tandem trailer thats actually a pretty fair price on the VLX
Old     (1boarder_kevin)      Join Date: Mar 2007       03-17-2008, 5:37 PM Reply   
if you are buying now, you will pay the more than any other time of the year. Dealers won't be as motivated to sell with everyone gearing up for the summer. On the other hand, the economy is slow and won't be speeding up this summer, so who knows.

FYI, I paid 80 % and then had $2000 knocked off (I paid roughly 78% of MSRP)for buying in dec/jan for a 2008 x2

(Message edited by 1boarder_kevin on March 17, 2008)
Old    KEVIN (kko13)      Join Date: Jul 2006       03-17-2008, 5:41 PM Reply   
you can get the new tige Z1 with every option for thousands less.incl. trailer

(Message edited by kko13 on March 17, 2008)
Old    Kimberly Conlee (houstongirl626)      Join Date: Mar 2008       03-17-2008, 5:42 PM Reply   
great then I feel a bit better - yes tandem trailer - the boat is beautiful - we will have lot's of fun
Old    Kimberly Conlee (houstongirl626)      Join Date: Mar 2008       03-17-2008, 5:45 PM Reply   
yes - tige' a sweet boat but when we looked at boat show and wasn't the one we liked the best -
Old    Kimberly Conlee (houstongirl626)      Join Date: Mar 2008       03-17-2008, 5:46 PM Reply   
what about 59k on x-2?
Old    Brett Yates (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       03-17-2008, 5:48 PM Reply   
Those both sound like really good prices to me for a 2008 heading right into the start of the season. What options on the X2?
Old    Kimberly Conlee (houstongirl626)      Join Date: Mar 2008       03-17-2008, 5:51 PM Reply   
the options not as good on the x-2 smaller engine 310 - I can't remember except it is blue -going back tomorrow to look at both but heart set on malibu -----
Old    Robert Jacuzzi (bobby_hottub)      Join Date: Sep 2007       03-17-2008, 5:52 PM Reply   
Kim,
Sounds like a good price on the VLX. Roughly what I paid for a new one in 2007. Don't know if it was a good deal or not, but we love the boat!! Don't have any personal knowledge of the X-2, but from what I hear it is a great boat too. Good luck. Post pics when you seal the deal.
Old    Kimberly Conlee (houstongirl626)      Join Date: Mar 2008       03-17-2008, 5:55 PM Reply   
oooo we are sooo jazzed - taking a dive on the old boat - we didn't know what we were buying - didn't know we would love boarding - love it all - the entire riding community is great - can't wait to travel texas board
Old    justin schrock (texasissippi)      Join Date: Feb 2008       03-17-2008, 6:02 PM Reply   
where in houston do you live??
Old    Kimberly Conlee (houstongirl626)      Join Date: Mar 2008       03-17-2008, 6:06 PM Reply   
central houston - u
Old    E Double U (three6ty)      Join Date: Feb 2004       03-17-2008, 6:06 PM Reply   
Kim,
Have you looked into a 1-2 yr old used boat. There are a few 2006 VLX's with super low hours on here for $45K or so. Still has a warrantee and most dealers will extend it as well for a little $$. That boat will lose $5-8 K the minute you drive it off the lot. There are a ton of good used boats out there from people suffering with the Mortgage and housing Problems who just want to get rid of them.
Just another option.
Old    E Double U (three6ty)      Join Date: Feb 2004       03-17-2008, 6:14 PM Reply   
Check out some of their other boats as well. All are bank Repos
http://www.yachtauctions.com/detail.asp?stockNo=17195
http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/8/548247.html?1204689953
http://onlyinboards.com/Details.aspx?ID=70592
http://onlyinboards.com/Details.aspx?ID=62738

Only to name a few
Old    E Double U (three6ty)      Join Date: Feb 2004       03-17-2008, 6:15 PM Reply   
not all of those are repos, just the ones from the first link.

Sorry. Just trying to help.
Old    Billy (woreout)      Join Date: Aug 2006       03-17-2008, 6:30 PM Reply   
X2 msrp mid to high 70's with MCX, PP, 2 tower speakers and trailer.
There are 2 X2's for sale in my area one 07 and one 06 the 06 has 50hrs and is 49500.00 with a tandem trailer, and the 07 is 55k with 40hrs and has a single axle trailer.
Both have MCX and tower speakers no PP though.
They are friends of mine and I know they have been well taken care of.
Old    Johnny (johnny_defacto)      Join Date: Sep 2006       03-17-2008, 6:32 PM Reply   
step one

vlx... test drive and get a pull
x2... test drive and get a pull

step two

repeat step one
Old    Donny (dtr)      Join Date: Sep 2007       03-17-2008, 7:57 PM Reply   
I thought MC held their price better than that . Paying mid to high 70's for a boat than year later selling it for 55. Ouch!
Old    Aaron Ware (99_slaunch)      Join Date: Oct 2005       03-17-2008, 8:38 PM Reply   
S.W. Houston/Sugarland for us. I think Rinkers Boat World on 249 has two used bu's at there shop for sale.
Old    all eyez on me (ponte_06_x2)      Join Date: Jan 2006       03-17-2008, 8:41 PM Reply   
hey donny. my bet would be is that people who bought boats with home equity lines of credit are needing to sell them fast. so its better to get 55 grand back then nothing.

(Message edited by ponte_06_x2 on March 17, 2008)
Old    Brett Yates (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       03-17-2008, 8:56 PM Reply   
plus they didn't pay mid to high 70's. My guess is they paid low to mid 60's.
Old    Donny (dtr)      Join Date: Sep 2007       03-17-2008, 8:57 PM Reply   
all eyes on me- Your might be right on the money their. Scary times
Old    Jeff Davidson (flamethewolf)      Join Date: Jan 2007       03-17-2008, 9:36 PM Reply   
yeah no boat holds its value well relative to the MSRP..... you have to buy it right to be able to get out of it in the first couple years... our plan is to sell our x1 in year 4 or 5 but we'll see what happens to boat prices...
Old    Manny (mrm2083)      Join Date: Nov 2005       03-17-2008, 10:38 PM Reply   
Ya msrp doesnt mean anything, they really sell for much cheaper. I paid 53 for my 06 x2 brand new so if that boat actually sells for 55 its not that much depreciation
Old    Kimberly Conlee (houstongirl626)      Join Date: Mar 2008       03-18-2008, 6:02 AM Reply   
wow guys thanks for all the help
we really like the new malibu - plus they are giving us more for the boat we are trading in upside down but not so bad -
Old    justin schrock (texasissippi)      Join Date: Feb 2008       03-18-2008, 6:10 AM Reply   
there is a BAD ASS malibu up in dallas for sale. i am from the woodlands. i live in mississippi now but moving back to houston by summer.

(i was really looking into that malibu but i decided to move back to houston and i cant take on that extra payment till i get settled there)
Old    justin schrock (texasissippi)      Join Date: Feb 2008       03-18-2008, 6:12 AM Reply   
ps, there is a good friend of mine that lives in houston that has a new x-2 (pretty sure its a 07). if you want to get out and see how you like it, i can get you his contact info.
Old    Kimberly Conlee (houstongirl626)      Join Date: Mar 2008       03-18-2008, 7:05 AM Reply   
justin - you are sooo nice - where do you ride? We are looking for some great places to ride -
Old    Nacho (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       03-18-2008, 7:36 AM Reply   
kim, good luck with the purchase. just be patient and you'll find the boat for you. VLXs are so clean.

I'm up in Tyler, so when you guys get ready for a trip we may have to get in touch. Took a pull on Saturday, chilly but definitely doable.

Have fun picking out a boat!
Old    justin schrock (texasissippi)      Join Date: Feb 2008       03-18-2008, 8:21 AM Reply   
kim - right now i am still in mississippi and ride out here usually but travel to lafayette about once a month at least! the people out there are awesome and there are some cool places to ride.

in tx, check out GCWA.COM - the houston area wakeboarding club. the BEST place in texas to ride is the trinity river. its about an hour north of houston and there is more smooth water than you have ever seen! my fam has a house up there. we will def have to all meet up and ride sometime when i get back over there!! let me know if you are really interested in trying the X2 out. J is a really cool guy - he lives on the water like 30 min from down town.
Old    VLX Envy (cavlxenvy)      Join Date: Aug 2007       03-18-2008, 8:28 AM Reply   
If you have an upside down trade then you will probably pay a bit more for your boat. A dealer will hold more money in a boat on a trade-in due to the risk involved. You don't always make money on a trade-in.
Old    Michael Brammer (lknboarder)      Join Date: Jan 2008       03-18-2008, 8:35 AM Reply   
both are top notch boats it all comes down to personal preference
Old    MCXSTAR (snork)      Join Date: Jun 2007       03-19-2008, 6:49 AM Reply   
Why buy a VLX or a x2 when you can buy my 2007 MasterCraft XSTAR for less than 65K
Old    Art (rallyart)      Join Date: Nov 2006       03-19-2008, 10:18 AM Reply   
hmmm... might be that extra 10k. You could get a tow vehicle for that snork.
Old    Nacho (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       03-19-2008, 12:04 PM Reply   
on a side note, its illegal for dealers and finance companies to roll forward any debt from the previous asset and finance it as part of the new asset. cars, boats whatever.
Old    neal sharum (moomba55)      Join Date: Jan 2008       03-19-2008, 12:23 PM Reply   
Nacho- If your statement is in fact true, the dealers and/or finance companies sure do a good job of hiding that previous debt.
Old    Kevin Hoye (wakebrdr38)      Join Date: Sep 2006       03-19-2008, 3:53 PM Reply   
theres a black and pink bu on dallasboats4sale.com looks pretty cool
Old    water freak (waterfreak)      Join Date: Jul 2007       03-19-2008, 6:02 PM Reply   
Here is some info

MSRP for 07 X2 is $60,370.00
MSRP for 07 VLX Malibu is $58,095.00
Old    Mikey (spoondog)      Join Date: Feb 2008       03-19-2008, 7:04 PM Reply   
"on a side note, its illegal for dealers and finance companies to roll forward any debt from the previous asset and finance it as part of the new asset. cars, boats whatever."

people roll negative equity into new vehicles all the time. Banks will allow you to finance 130 percent of your vehicle's value, of course its upon credit approval.
Old    Billy (woreout)      Join Date: Aug 2006       03-19-2008, 7:38 PM Reply   
Msrp nobody pays it. 55k is a good deal for an 07
I think he paid 65k new he got about a 10k discount from msrp.
Old    MCXSTAR (snork)      Join Date: Jun 2007       03-20-2008, 6:59 AM Reply   
Art, Why go half ways? Buy a mediocre boat and a 10k piece of sh-t tow vehicle. If you have to pay todays prices go all the way for little more.
Old    Jamie LaMar (jamie_lamar)      Join Date: Mar 2004       03-20-2008, 7:10 AM Reply   
Kim - Did you get my e-mail?
Old    Adam R (wakecumberland)      Join Date: Oct 2007       03-20-2008, 1:52 PM Reply   
A 10k tow vehicle is not necessarily a piece. I bought a 99 Suburban 4x4 SLT with 83k miles on it for $9k two years ago. It has been great for my needs and looks really sharp. I get lots of compliments. I'd rather spend the money on the boat.
Old    ERIC BATHEN (h2oboy)      Join Date: Feb 2008       03-20-2008, 3:01 PM Reply   
Kim- MC AND BU are great boats..... Now make your choice based on the local dealer because when your spending that kind of money.....SERVICE is everything
Old    Jason (azpowerhouse)      Join Date: Jul 2007       03-20-2008, 3:55 PM Reply   
I think she got a black and yellow Malibu VLX.........
http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/3183/559870.html?1206052251
Old    SteveO (steveotx)      Join Date: Feb 2008       03-21-2008, 9:01 AM Reply   
Kim,

Give the boys at TXMC in DFW a shout on an X2. They had a few 07's left and have some crazy deals.
Old    Nacho (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       03-21-2008, 9:10 AM Reply   
mikey - is it done all the time? yes. Is there any recourse if this happened to you? yes.

Kim, if you haven't yet looked at Supras yet, check out Waterski Boats Dallas in lewisville.
Old    Mikey (spoondog)      Join Date: Feb 2008       03-21-2008, 11:40 AM Reply   
Sorry if this going a little off topic, Kim. But i'm interested in what Nacho is saying. I've been trying to search for what kind of recourse a bank will take.

Nacho - can you show me a source? I'm interested because everything i've read on edmunds.com, cars.com, yahoo.com says that banks allow it pending credit approval. I see nothing illegal about doing it. Unless by recourse, you mean that its just a bad idea and not illegal than i agree that in some cases its a bad idea. Perhaps it is different in different states. In Ca it is openly practiced.

If you are suggesting that dealerships are sliding 3,4,5 or even 10k worth of negative equity by the banks without them knowing than you are underestimating the banks' knowledge of what cars or boats are worth. Banks know exactly what cars are worth, in fact they set residuals on cars in cases of leasing.

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