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Old    Greg Bodor (gti2lo)      Join Date: Nov 2005       02-17-2008, 4:52 PM Reply   
I am looking for real world pictures of Mastercraft's LED underwater lighting..

All I see pictures of them on boats sitting on trailers which is totally pointless..

I want to see how they actually light up the water!

It's a nice option for $500ish but only if it works!

If it is anything like the products on this website than I am totally for it 100%
www.oceanled.com

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Old    sdahockey21            02-17-2008, 5:26 PM Reply   
http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=13269&page=1
Old    Greg Bodor (gti2lo)      Join Date: Nov 2005       02-17-2008, 6:21 PM Reply   
Yes saw that post, but like I stated....


Not one if a Mastercraft with their new 08 LED lighting..


I know I can buy some LED and install myself.. was asking about the OEM option.
Old     (auwakeboarder)      Join Date: Dec 2003       02-17-2008, 6:54 PM Reply   
This is 1 of the LED units, white in color, not the blue that is used from the factory.
It is the same make and model just different color.


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Old    Michael O (2007_x2)      Join Date: May 2007       02-18-2008, 5:44 PM Reply   
http://www.wakeworld.com/getarticle.asp?articleid=1520
Old    Chase Andrew (wakeboardnut)      Join Date: Jul 2006       02-18-2008, 10:41 PM Reply   
http://www.abysslite.com/

ill be using there product when i build my Malibu.
Old    Bill K (bill_airjunky)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-18-2008, 11:47 PM Reply   
Hey Chase,
Why the Abyss lights over the stock Malibus? Have you seen the new ones in 2008?
Old    Michael O (2007_x2)      Join Date: May 2007       02-18-2008, 11:59 PM Reply   
I just had Team Neptunes put a bunch of LEDs under my platform, i pick it up this week, ill post pics.
Old    Bill K (bill_airjunky)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-19-2008, 12:14 AM Reply   
Looks like they have one posted here. Looks pretty bright out of the water.

http://www.teamneptunes.com/galleries/cpg133/albums/userpics/10001/light%20rings%20001.jpg
Old    tj (tj_in_kc)      Join Date: Jan 2008       02-19-2008, 8:26 AM Reply   
bill - are those mounted to your swimplatform or thru hull?

i would love to get some lights for my new Malibu, but it would never be worth cutting holes in the transom for in my opinion....

if you've found something that can be mounted on the transom or swimplatform that would be awesome!

let me know...
Old    Greg Bodor (gti2lo)      Join Date: Nov 2005       02-19-2008, 4:43 PM Reply   
So no one actually has a real life pic of the Mastercraft OEM option?

I am aware I can do myself... though may need a few beers to get courage to drill a hole through the transom on a new boat!
Old    Michael O (2007_x2)      Join Date: May 2007       02-19-2008, 4:52 PM Reply   
tj those LED's on the malibu are on the swimplatform not in the transom. i pick my boat up tomorrow night so ill post some pics on here. also u can contact Jim at Team Neptunes at 209 466 8863 he can answer all of ur ?'s www.teamneptunes.com
Old    Bill K (bill_airjunky)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-19-2008, 5:29 PM Reply   
Yea, I believe that pic is of the LEDs mounted to the swimstep, TJ. It is a pic they have on their website.

I purchased the 2008 Malibu LEDs from my dealer a couple weeks ago. These are installed just below the waterline in the transom with the wiring inside the boat. Our lake is still frozen solid so I haven't had a chance to get the boat out & get the LEDs mounted. 6 little holes, 4 screws & some silicon, wire them up & they will be done. Haven't decided if I will wire them to the existing interior LEDs or the stern light.

Maybe I'll try & get it done this weekend.

(Message edited by bill_airjunky on February 19, 2008)
Old    Michael O (2007_x2)      Join Date: May 2007       02-21-2008, 2:43 PM Reply   
heres a pic of my under water LEDs just got finished yesterday!
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Old    tj (tj_in_kc)      Join Date: Jan 2008       02-21-2008, 5:10 PM Reply   
Mike that looks sick man. i can't wait till you post some pics of what it looks like in the water at night.

so no holes below the waterline in your setup? that's baddd...

also- i wonder if i could run these along the bottom of my dock? i feel okay drilling all the holes in the world into it....although drilling underwater might be a challenge. lol
Old    Mikeski (mikeski)      Join Date: Aug 2003       02-21-2008, 6:19 PM Reply   
tj,

No problems drilling underwater, been there with my dock. It's called a brace and bit, muscle power, the old fashion way.

Mike,
Those are above water, no doubt they will look good.

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Old    Mikeski (mikeski)      Join Date: Aug 2003       02-21-2008, 6:24 PM Reply   
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Old    Greg Bodor (gti2lo)      Join Date: Nov 2005       02-21-2008, 6:56 PM Reply   
Look good Mike!

This is what I am after...

http://www.oceanled.com/product_images/gallery_photo-large_image-55.jpg

http://www.oceanled.com/product_images/gallery_photo-large_image-355.jpg

http://www.oceanled.com/product_images/gallery_photo-large_image-404.jpg
Old    "G" (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       02-21-2008, 7:18 PM Reply   
http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/405184.html
Old    tj (tj_in_kc)      Join Date: Jan 2008       02-21-2008, 7:33 PM Reply   
G - thats an awesome post. You don't have any pics of your setup in the water do you???
Old    Michael O (2007_x2)      Join Date: May 2007       02-26-2008, 2:31 AM Reply   
thanks guys ill see when i can get some pics on the water. oh by the way no holes were drilled in my boat at all.
Old    Michael O (2007_x2)      Join Date: May 2007       02-26-2008, 2:33 AM Reply   
mikeski that looks awesome i hope mine looks that good on the water.

Greg those are awesome i would go with those! might have to get those too.
Old    Craig Glass (my_malibu)      Join Date: Feb 2008       02-27-2008, 9:21 PM Reply   
mine
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sorry no in water shoots yet
Old    billy d williams (billy2603)      Join Date: Mar 2007       02-28-2008, 9:27 AM Reply   
Are you guys drilling through-hulls to get the power wire back in? If not, what is your method?
Old    Craig Glass (my_malibu)      Join Date: Feb 2008       02-28-2008, 10:18 AM Reply   
using the stud from the swim deck mount
no hole in the boat
Old    Nick Tomsyck (sidekicknicholas)      Join Date: Mar 2007       02-28-2008, 11:49 AM Reply   
do you have a pic of the wires using the swim deck stud... i've been wondering the best route to run the wirse... i was thinking in w/ rub rail through bilge or in throw blower hole
Old    tj (tj_in_kc)      Join Date: Jan 2008       02-28-2008, 11:56 AM Reply   
Nick - i believe what they mean is they just hook the power, positive and neg to the metal brackets of the swimplatform, one on each side and complete the circuit using the LEDs.

(Message edited by tj_in_kc on February 28, 2008)
Old    Erik (etakk7)      Join Date: Apr 2006       02-28-2008, 12:34 PM Reply   
what would be the power source in that scenario?
Old    Craig Glass (my_malibu)      Join Date: Feb 2008       02-28-2008, 1:26 PM Reply   
fused .5 amp 12v

(Message edited by my_malibu on February 28, 2008)
Old    Mike (bladeaustin)      Join Date: Feb 2008       02-28-2008, 1:53 PM Reply   
I am going to tackle this project,any advice before i start? Looks fairly uncomplicated.
Old    Is it summer yet? (trentj6930)      Join Date: Oct 2007       02-28-2008, 2:22 PM Reply   
Craig Glass, do you have some more photos of the project? I was looking more along the lines of how you ran the power to the platform leds? Looks like it should work really simple?
Old    AtTheLake (bmartin)      Join Date: Jan 2007       02-28-2008, 2:39 PM Reply   
Normally I am not into bling, but must say these LEDs look awesome in the water.
Old    J B (bjeremi)      Join Date: Mar 2006       02-28-2008, 2:45 PM Reply   
"Nick - i believe what they mean is they just hook the power, positive and neg to the metal brackets of the swimplatform, one on each side and complete the circuit using the LEDs."

Could we get a little more info on this?
Old    Craig Glass (my_malibu)      Join Date: Feb 2008       02-28-2008, 3:28 PM Reply   
boat in storage right now no pics
I placed a washer between the bolt and swim platform
and soldered the leds to them
did same inside the boat before the nut
Old    Craig Glass (my_malibu)      Join Date: Feb 2008       02-28-2008, 3:32 PM Reply   
p.s. remember to place a waterproof disconnect on the swim deck side if you want to remove the swim deck :-)
Old    billy d williams (billy2603)      Join Date: Mar 2007       02-29-2008, 10:03 AM Reply   
That is genius by the way.
Old    Tim (suckbuthavefun)      Join Date: May 2003       02-29-2008, 11:33 AM Reply   
Maybe a stupid question...Do these have their own power source built in?

I don't understand how you can hook them up to the metal brackets and complete the ciruit.

Tim
Old    Razzman (razzman)      Join Date: Dec 2006       02-29-2008, 11:57 AM Reply   
Platform + and - to the exterior platform brackets, one on each end. Interior wires running from your 12vdc circuit to the interior/transom platform bolts, + and - to same side as the exterior. When the platform is placed into the mount brackets it completes the circuit. This works because of two factors, fresh water is an electrical conductor and they are low voltage. A .5 amp fuse on the inside + wire protects the circuit.
Old    Craig Glass (my_malibu)      Join Date: Feb 2008       02-29-2008, 12:01 PM Reply   
correct
just remember to encase the soldered joint in epoxy to water proof it
Old    Dave (bcrider)      Join Date: Apr 2006       02-29-2008, 12:02 PM Reply   
For the people that don't understand the bolts that go through the hull to mount the swim platform.

Now I just have to see if I can connect mine this way. I wanted to add the LED's to the swim platform last year but this year it is happening for sure.
Old    Dave (bcrider)      Join Date: Apr 2006       02-29-2008, 12:06 PM Reply   
For the people that don't understand the bolts that go through the hull to mount the swim platform.

Now I just have to see if I can connect mine this way. I wanted to add the LED's to the swim platform last year but this year it is happening for sure.
Old    Craig Glass (my_malibu)      Join Date: Feb 2008       02-29-2008, 12:24 PM Reply   
Dave just take your time making a nice waterproof string of leds
I had to epoxy the backs and fronts of the leds
just incase ( they are waterproof)
and pay attention to where the wiring connents expoxy expoxy expoxy Upload
Old    tj (tj_in_kc)      Join Date: Jan 2008       02-29-2008, 12:34 PM Reply   
i think the hardest part is going to be attaching the LEDs to the actual platform. if you have a teak platform this will probably just be some small galvanized deck screws. it looks like thats what you used, right craig?

Razzman, thanks for explaining it more i guess at first glance it might not be really clear what i meant. however, i don't think the fact that fresh water is an electrical conductor has anything to do with this one, does it? =)
Old    Razzman (razzman)      Join Date: Dec 2006       02-29-2008, 12:49 PM Reply   
Yeah it does actually help because unlike a normal electrical connector where you have a 100% positive connection, using the platform brackets as the connector is not 100% positive so the water surrounding the joint actually helps a bit.

Here's what i'm doing mine with shortly. http://www.oznium.com/square-channel These come in rolls and you just tell them how many lights you want (it's roughly two per foot) and they cut to length. That way you don't have to worry about soldering all the darn things together!
Old    tj (tj_in_kc)      Join Date: Jan 2008       02-29-2008, 1:12 PM Reply   
Nice find Razzman. Those are pretty low prices too...how many are you going to order?

i also like the lights (Mikeski) is using above, would be interesting to compare the two in the water and see which one puts out more light.

Tell me this craig, did you run the wires up to your accessory lights or NAV lights switch on the dash? i was thinking how clean that would be. might be simpler to just have a simple switch at the battery or in the sun lounge compartment though...

anyone have thoughts on that part of it?
Old    tj (tj_in_kc)      Join Date: Jan 2008       02-29-2008, 1:17 PM Reply   
btw, Razzman i still think your conductivity argument is weak like the ukraine...haha freshwater is like 1500 ÁS/cm max, hardly a strong enough conductor to make a difference...now if we were talking saltwater...well thats a hell of a lot more conductive.
Old    Razzman (razzman)      Join Date: Dec 2006       02-29-2008, 1:22 PM Reply   
I think i'm going with 16 lights but have to pull the platform to be sure.

I'm no engineer or waterologist ... i just know it works
Old    Craig Glass (my_malibu)      Join Date: Feb 2008       02-29-2008, 3:09 PM Reply   
all the leds run through the dash switch and fuse
safety first
Old    Craig Glass (my_malibu)      Join Date: Feb 2008       02-29-2008, 3:11 PM Reply   
tj yes used screws and expoxy but witha teak deck I would make a channel with a rotor to place the wires and pods in then expoxy expoxy

used the screws to hold while the expoxy set up
then got lazy and decided to leave them in

(Message edited by my_malibu on February 29, 2008)
Old    Craig Glass (my_malibu)      Join Date: Feb 2008       02-29-2008, 3:14 PM Reply   
Razzman hope you'll getting alot the superbright ones are 3 times as bright
they also come in a string
Old    Razzman (razzman)      Join Date: Dec 2006       02-29-2008, 4:06 PM Reply   
Not sure what your saying here Craig but i assume your saying the superbright ones are pre-wired in one strand. So are the ones i posted a link to.
Old    Craig Glass (my_malibu)      Join Date: Feb 2008       02-29-2008, 6:42 PM Reply   
the point was that superbright ones are three times brighter than the oznium
Old    Craig Glass (my_malibu)      Join Date: Feb 2008       02-29-2008, 6:44 PM Reply   
used stainless steel screws also

(Message edited by my_malibu on February 29, 2008)
Old    Razzman (razzman)      Join Date: Dec 2006       02-29-2008, 6:52 PM Reply   
0The problem with the superbright ones is that the wires exit each module at the top making it much harder to design and implement a clean install. The Oznium units have the wires exiting the base allowing you to recess them and make a real clean install.
Old    Craig Glass (my_malibu)      Join Date: Feb 2008       02-29-2008, 7:02 PM Reply   
are you saying mine install is not clean????
Old    Razzman (razzman)      Join Date: Dec 2006       02-29-2008, 8:19 PM Reply   
Never entered my mind I'm doing mine similar to "G"'s where i'm recessing them into pieces of teak and wires at the top won't work in that application.
Old    Craig Glass (my_malibu)      Join Date: Feb 2008       02-29-2008, 8:57 PM Reply   
Cool in my application recessing was not a option
pics when done
Old    Mallardhunter (mallardhunter83)      Join Date: Mar 2008       03-21-2008, 8:47 AM Reply   
Just bough 4 s600b abyss lights from a lady on ebay, should get them in this afternoon. she had a few more pair for sale and was selling them for about 75 dollars for a pair!!!!!
She has some on ebay right now if anyone interested
Old    tj (tj_in_kc)      Join Date: Jan 2008       03-21-2008, 9:26 AM Reply   
Daniel - let us know how your install goes, i think i'm going to do this as soon as i get my boat outta storage. you have teak or fiberglass platform?? post some pics keep us in the loop!
Old    Abe (reconabe)      Join Date: Jun 2007       03-21-2008, 10:09 AM Reply   
I have always wondered if those swim deck lights bring up any huge monsters from the deep

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