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Old    chris m (slainte6403)      Join Date: Jan 2008       01-29-2008, 8:52 AM Reply   
Well its not really antique, its a CWB lithium from around 2000.It has a 1.75" fin on each end. I am looking into new bindings right now, considering a closed toe option. Im 5'11" and around 160 lbs. Is this board to heavy, wide, long,not enough edge control, fins, etc? http://www.wakeworld.com/boardguide/getboard2.asp?boardid=583
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Old    chris m (slainte6403)      Join Date: Jan 2008       01-29-2008, 8:54 AM Reply   
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Old    Brooke (dizzyg)      Join Date: May 2005       01-29-2008, 8:58 AM Reply   
that is so far from an antique it makes me sick. Ride it!
Old    chris m (slainte6403)      Join Date: Jan 2008       01-29-2008, 12:05 PM Reply   
I know I can def ride it, but what im asking is will I be able to progress faster with a newer board? Are the new designs more advanced to the point that it will be easier to learn new tricks?
Old    tommy piper (tommy_piper)      Join Date: Sep 2007       01-29-2008, 1:27 PM Reply   
The proof is in the puddin
Old    Anodyne (anodyne)      Join Date: Feb 2006       01-29-2008, 2:32 PM Reply   
Ride it man... only thing that can tell you if it will is you. Completely psychological. You want to progress like crazy on that thing? You can, and will.
Old    Kevin McGuirk (ktmwakeboarder)      Join Date: Jun 2004       01-29-2008, 10:23 PM Reply   
Ride it!!
Old    Dante (hal2814)      Join Date: Feb 2006       01-30-2008, 6:24 AM Reply   
Antique? That's not even uni-directional! Just ride the thing and if you're unhappy with it, try something new.
Old    William (kana12)      Join Date: Jan 2008       01-30-2008, 8:11 AM Reply   
dude that board has some pretty tight graphics for being 8 years old. id ride it for sure.
Old    proho (proho)      Join Date: Aug 2005       01-30-2008, 8:37 AM Reply   
if you want to save money, you'll be able to ride it and learn. But there is a reason why NO boards today are shaped like that.
Old    Trent Ash (cadmanic)      Join Date: Mar 2002       01-30-2008, 10:33 AM Reply   
Heck, my favorite and most ridden boards are still my '98 & '00 O'Brien Phattys...

Ride what you like, or ride what you have... If you're lucky, it's the same board. I know a brand new board isn't going to turn this old man into a pro, so I don't even think about regearing every year or two... Now, once I break my last Phatty(hopefully not for a very long time), I'll be looking for a new "favorite" board.
Old    chris m (slainte6403)      Join Date: Jan 2008       01-30-2008, 11:44 AM Reply   
Thats what i was thinking. I learned on this board. I know it is perfectly fine for wake to wake, surface 3's, and other basics. Im actually just wondering if it is gonna take longer to progress on. I dont want to spend 2 months out of the summer on this board to learn that the things i was tryin to learn are much easier on a newer board. I do like the graphics though haha.
KANA12......can you elaborate on "There is a reason why NO boards are shaped like that"?
Old    Josh B (joshugan)      Join Date: Apr 2005       01-30-2008, 7:14 PM Reply   
Chris, board technology has vastly improved. A newer board is not going to turn you into a pro but it will make it easier to progress.

A better wake, better bindings, and better board are all factors in you getting better. You can still get better if you're riding a 99 board with 99 bindings and you're behind an I/O but it will be easier to get better if you have better things. (from my experience.)
Old    chris m (slainte6403)      Join Date: Jan 2008       01-30-2008, 9:46 PM Reply   
Thanks alot for the advice Josh. I think I realize what to do now. Thanks everyone
Old    raging jerbul (kawaik)      Join Date: Feb 2005       01-31-2008, 3:15 PM Reply   
"...there is a reason why NO boards today are shaped like that."

not trying to start anything but i just took a second peek at the liquid force press. thought it was kinda funny. i know this doesn't help anyone but it sure does do a lot for self gratification.
Old    Brandon Kee (trickyboarder08)      Join Date: Jul 2005       01-31-2008, 5:10 PM Reply   
Ur definitely right though. The 2008 Press is pretty similar. What was liquid force thinking. too bad Proho isn't a board designer, sounds like he knows something they don't Or maybe he doesn't know something they do?

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Old    Brandon Kee (trickyboarder08)      Join Date: Jul 2005       01-31-2008, 5:14 PM Reply   
and by the way, my sister won't ride any other board other than this one. It's a '99

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Old    Justin Lamoureux (lives2wake)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-31-2008, 5:15 PM Reply   
The Press is a flex board...not really the same.
Old    raging jerbul (kawaik)      Join Date: Feb 2005       01-31-2008, 5:25 PM Reply   
justin i completely understand that and again i am not trying to flame anyone. it was all in interest of jest. with that said, the shape of the board was all that was in question. no one said anything of what type of board it was supposed to be. and...the emphasis he placed on the "NO" seems pretty inclusive to me. ok i am reading in to this way too much now. i got studying to do.
Old    raging jerbul (kawaik)      Join Date: Feb 2005       01-31-2008, 5:26 PM Reply   
by the way sorry for the jack of the thread. out.
Old    Brandon Kee (trickyboarder08)      Join Date: Jul 2005       01-31-2008, 7:05 PM Reply   
i'll back u up there jerbul. He did put the imphasis on the NO, and he obviously had little to no knowledge to back up his statement.
Old    Cliff Griffin (seattle)      Join Date: Mar 2002       02-01-2008, 6:03 AM Reply   
I've got a buddy that still rides his Shannon Best Iconn.
Old    Justin Lamoureux (lives2wake)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-01-2008, 6:29 AM Reply   
Oh, I would totally ride it too...I was simply stating the fact that they are different kinds of boards.
I remember when they were selling this board and that isn't that long ago.
Ride it...until you get a new board and then use this one as a slider board.
Old     (will5150)      Join Date: Oct 2002       02-01-2008, 6:36 AM Reply   
I have an antique wakeboard- a Hyperlite Twin tip! I think it says XP on the top and that's it. The underside has a bunch of round, convex cup shapes I suppose to elevate the board in the water. it's also about 160cm long! As far as I can tell- this board will make a great bench and that's about it! ( Oh yeah- I got it in 1996- I think that qualifies as antique!)
Old    William (kana12)      Join Date: Jan 2008       02-01-2008, 10:03 AM Reply   
chris m..... if you look up two lines you will see that im not the one that said that !
Old    chris m (slainte6403)      Join Date: Jan 2008       02-01-2008, 11:41 AM Reply   
Thanks alot for all of these replies, I finally found a helpful message board! I'm not going to be insulted by anyones opinions so wouldn't worry about that. Basically I'm now set on riding the board with new bindings until I know exactly what I want. I guess this thread is starting to turn into a difference between the old and new geometry of wakeboard design.
Anyone have any facts or opinions about NEW vs OLD design Geometry, ie:the way they handle, pop, etc?
Old    Jerm I. Side (jermiside)      Join Date: Jun 2007       02-01-2008, 1:19 PM Reply   
Chris, it has more to do with better boats. Better boats make bigger wakes. Bigger wakes need bigger rocker lines, bigger spines for softer landings, and so on.

if you are sakin out your boat and riding bigger wakes, you will want to get a board that can handle it.
Old    chris m (slainte6403)      Join Date: Jan 2008       02-02-2008, 11:14 AM Reply   
WOW, I didnt even think about how boat technology has changed, good call.
Old    Blabelmooch (blabel)      Join Date: Jul 2001       02-02-2008, 3:43 PM Reply   
Isn't that board the previous year's pro model with different graphics? Mfg's tend to do that. If it is, I think that shape is the first CWB I rode. I learned three tricks on that board included my first 540. And it was the wrong size for me too. Don't let people discourage you from riding old shapes. If it feels good, ride it. Keep in mind, people have been riding big wakes since the mid to late 90's (earlier for all I know) and you should see some of the crap people were doing back then.

I've ridden a lot of boards over the years and honestly I can't say I've progressed significantly with any shape since leaving the flight 69. I enjoy some of the technological advancements but nothing has made me a better rider.

Find a board you like and go with it.

(Message edited by blabel on February 02, 2008)
Old    Cliff (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       02-06-2008, 6:04 PM Reply   
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Old    MM (wakechica)      Join Date: Jul 2007       02-07-2008, 7:38 AM Reply   
I have a 98 Juvi 131 That I rode on until last year when I bought the lotus, Now the Juvi is has pro signatures on the bottom of it and is on my mantle for decoration in my house.
Old    Chris Schweda (chris_schweda)      Join Date: Dec 2006       02-07-2008, 6:56 PM Reply   
I still have a one tail pointed nose with the little bubbles cut in the bottom its a hyperlite or ho not sure it is eric perez
Old    Gordie Taylor (wakeparent)      Join Date: Jan 2005       02-08-2008, 6:48 AM Reply   
Neptune, Didnt straightline make those if I remenber correctly,,,,

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