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Old     (rrw71)      Join Date: Feb 2010       02-28-2010, 8:53 PM Reply   
Considering this boat along with an Enzo 230, Tige 22ve, and maybe a used X-30. What are your thoughts? Family boat for 5, dog, plus friends. Wakesurfing, wakeboarding, tubing...

http://www.skisupreme.com/models/226.html

http://www.hillside-honda.com/photog...V226/album.asp

Thanks
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       02-28-2010, 9:48 PM Reply   
The Enzo, Tige and Supreme will have great waves. The supreme v226 and the enzo-avalanche share a similar hull design. The same guy designed both. The supreme is just deeper(deepest in the industry) and has a larger top cap. This means bigger custom sacs and a nice big waves. Same basicallly goes for the enzo (which is an amazing surf boat). The mastercraft is an amazing wakeboard boat and an ok surf boat.

Which is the most important feature for you? If it's wakeboarding then go with the mastercraft. If it's surfing again the Enzo, Tige and supreme will be great.
Old     (rrw71)      Join Date: Feb 2010       03-01-2010, 9:14 AM Reply   
Thanks for the input. Surfing is probably #1, along with the kids learning to wakeboard, surf and tubing. I hope to get some demo rides in the next couple weeks if the weather cooperates.
Old     (westsidarider)      Join Date: Feb 2003       03-01-2010, 9:53 AM Reply   
I really dig the new V226. It has an incredible surf wake and the wakeboard wake is pretty good too. I would describe it as a steeper version of the xstar. Very meaty with a little bit of a lip to it. Very fun
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       03-01-2010, 10:24 AM Reply   
V226 could be the greatist wakesurf boat out. With custom enzo sacs and some time dialing in the wave. But to my knowledge no one has done this yet. The enzo and the Tige have been proven to have great waves. If you surf both sides I would go with the Tige or the V226. If you just surf the port or regular side I would go with the enzo. All these boats are amazing good luck!
Old     (westsidarider)      Join Date: Feb 2003       03-01-2010, 11:11 AM Reply   
We have had the surf wake more than dialed behind the 226 every time I have been out in it. I actually found it very easy to dial it in. The first time out a year ago we were surfing at 17 mph and way back on the wave.
Old     (desotodave)      Join Date: Mar 2009       03-09-2010, 7:22 AM Reply   
If they could change the graphics on the boat, and the interior and dash then i might look at it. They are trying to just to WAYYYYY too much with the graphics and it just makes you dizzy!
Old     (bac)      Join Date: Feb 2008       03-09-2010, 7:56 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by desotodave View Post
If they could change the graphics on the boat, and the interior and dash then i might look at it. They are trying to just to WAYYYYY too much with the graphics and it just makes you dizzy!
I agree with you that thats not my first choice either. But they do offer quite a few other options when it comes to graphics
Old     (desotodave)      Join Date: Mar 2009       03-09-2010, 8:33 AM Reply   
Oh yeah one other general comment. I have a Centurion Enzo and it only has like 40-45 gallons of fuel. My buddy's X30 has 80 or ninety. When we go to Lake Powell we sometimes drive and hour or 2 just to find the glass. Just the round trip uses up half my fuel. Seems to make sense to me that you would put larger tanks in these boats not only for range, and need to refuel on a long day, but for weight as well!!!

Anyone with me on this?
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       03-15-2010, 8:17 PM Reply   
Keep the wave pictures coming! I want to see what this boat can do.
Old     (westsidarider)      Join Date: Feb 2003       03-16-2010, 2:21 PM Reply   
In about a month I should have some new pics ready to post, NEW DASH included. The next time we get one out were going to re-prop is and really see what this beast can do.
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       03-28-2010, 7:36 PM Reply   
Any more pictures?
Old     (rrw71)      Join Date: Feb 2010       04-16-2010, 2:29 PM Reply   
Here's some. I've been told the dash has been revised a couple more times, so this is not going to be the exact dash. I hope to see the final design soon. I wonder what the swim step will look like? Should be another week or two till I get to see the first delivery.
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Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-16-2010, 2:37 PM Reply   
That is one crazy deep boat! Can't wait to see it with custom enzo type surf sacs. I think it's gonna make everything else lame!
Old     (rrw71)      Join Date: Feb 2010       04-16-2010, 3:31 PM Reply   
I'm can't wait to do a demo...
Old     (bac)      Join Date: Feb 2008       04-16-2010, 4:55 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by duffymahoney View Post
That is one crazy deep boat! !
That made me stop and stare when I got to that picture. Thats a very deep hull

I agree with the potential for this boat. Especially with that one pic above.
Old     (motogod77)      Join Date: Aug 2008       04-16-2010, 5:43 PM Reply   
^^^^^ - Agreed Duffy - I had a demo V226 last year and ran it against an Enzo with the same weight and it does make everything else look lame. Our next one is being built as we speak - can't wait for its arrival!
Old     (dennish)      Join Date: May 2005       04-17-2010, 10:04 AM Reply   
I heard a rumor that there will be a V226 at the Wake9 wakesurf festival in May.
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-17-2010, 11:06 AM Reply   
That would be sweet! Someone really needs to spend some time dialing it in take some notes on weight, location etc....
Old     (dennish)      Join Date: May 2005       04-17-2010, 11:17 AM Reply   
I think that is the plan before the event. I will be dialing it in hopefully prior to the event.
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-17-2010, 12:43 PM Reply   
Sacs or lead? Do you access to an enzo sac? The lockers are much bigger then an enzo but the sac would be a great start.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       04-18-2010, 1:20 PM Reply   
Love the dash render. If they can make it look like that in reality then they have a winner IMO
Old     (bjeremi)      Join Date: Mar 2006       04-19-2010, 10:37 AM Reply   
Anybody have any idea on the wakeboarding wake?
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-19-2010, 10:52 AM Reply   
Wakeboarding magazine said it was great. It was included in the reviews edition.
Old     (younguns44)      Join Date: Jan 2010       04-26-2010, 8:58 PM Reply   
go with x30
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-26-2010, 9:06 PM Reply   
What, X30? This supreme is the deepest boat out. Should be awesome! Any more pictures?
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       04-26-2010, 9:53 PM Reply   
What a Mastecraft X30? Ha ha ha. Great insight, I think you are in the wrong place, try mymastercraft.com.
Old     (colombiansurfer)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-27-2010, 10:42 AM Reply   
Holy **** that wake is huge!!! I have to agree with duffy in that that just might be the largest wake out there for now.
Old     (islander033)      Join Date: May 2008       04-27-2010, 11:50 AM Reply   
I won't buy into it until it pulls a competition or two and see what the pros think about it.
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-27-2010, 11:57 AM Reply   
Yeah for sure. Dennis said on this thread that wake9 might get to test one. I talked to one of the designers and it's deeper then an enzo and the deep part of the hull starts sooner on the boat thus displacing more water. The angles are a mix between an enzo and an avalanche. The designer was also the enzo designer, which is a huge plus in my book. Lockers will hold a 1800 pound enzo type fat sac. At least that's from my measurements. I can't wait to see what this boat can do.
Old     (Kjb12)      Join Date: Apr 2010       07-16-2010, 1:13 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by duffymahoney View Post
Yeah for sure. Dennis said on this thread that wake9 might get to test one. I talked to one of the designers and it's deeper then an enzo and the deep part of the hull starts sooner on the boat thus displacing more water. The angles are a mix between an enzo and an avalanche. The designer was also the enzo designer, which is a huge plus in my book. Lockers will hold a 1800 pound enzo type fat sac. At least that's from my measurements. I can't wait to see what this boat can do.
Duffy, Do you have the measurements for the lockers on this boat? I bought one in April and surfed all of june on it with just stock ballast and people and it was great we had a tonne of fun!! Now Im back at work in the middle east and due home in early august, so Im trying to get the locker spec's so I can order a few sac's.... any sugestions??
Old     (dennish)      Join Date: May 2005       04-27-2010, 3:51 PM Reply   
Actually the testing will be done for California Marine Sports in Suisun. They will be using the Supreme to pull their board demos at the Festival.
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-27-2010, 4:54 PM Reply   
Are you going to help weight it?
Old     (dennish)      Join Date: May 2005       04-27-2010, 7:30 PM Reply   
Yes I will be the one weighting it. and getting it dialed in. The festival will be pulled by Tige 2010 RZ2. We have two identical boats coming from the factory one for each side.
Old     (desotodave)      Join Date: Mar 2009       04-29-2010, 8:02 AM Reply   
So, what is the deal with this boat. I have seen a couple pictures, it is on their web site, but does not seem like it is readily available? Has anyone actually surfed behind this boat, or seen anything but promotional info? I would like to see a few NON FACTORY people just go out for a day and try it out.
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-29-2010, 8:06 AM Reply   
David, I think Dennis is one of the best people out to test this boat. Take lots of pictures and notes. It might be weight sensitive like the Avy?
Old     (desotodave)      Join Date: Mar 2009       04-29-2010, 9:37 AM Reply   
Just weird to me that they "launched" the boat in November of 2008 (18 months ago) and we don't really have any good feedback from owners. Did they launch the boat, and then not make any?

From the Supreme website:

11/18/08

THE BOAT OF THE YEAR IS FINALLY HERE!

2009 will be the most exciting year Supreme Boats has ever embarked on.

The New highly anticipated V226 is completed! The design team developed the V226 from a clean sheet of paper. We now have snap out carpet / swivel drivers seat and a ride that is second to none. The 226 has the deepest V on the market today! Also the V226 has been engineered to have the most stable wake platform ever created with the most advanced styling in the industry. The team of engineers has developed what other companies could not, a 22 ft boat that has more interior room than a 24. We are very proud of our R&D departments' effort in making sure everything is exactly how we wanted it. Schedule your test drive today.
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-29-2010, 9:45 AM Reply   
I have talked to a few. Also a wakeboard-surf school in europe has one. Supreme isn't a huge company. I think it will take time, and remember that the last couple of years have been very very tough on the boat manu's. A dealer in Lynnwood WA is getting one. My local dealer also might get one.
Old     (desotodave)      Join Date: Mar 2009       04-29-2010, 11:40 AM Reply   
I have also heard rumors about a local dealer getting them, but it all seems so quite. If you have a boat that is the "Boat of the Year" it should be out there and getting more pub. You thinking of getting one?
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-29-2010, 12:08 PM Reply   
Well only if I could get enough out of my Avalanche. Maybe next year. I think this design with it's depth will be the new standard. Safer boats for as much weight as we run.
Old     (liljohn)      Join Date: May 2007       04-29-2010, 12:31 PM Reply   
Does anyone have a contact for the lynwood washington dealer? I live here in the state and have done a few reviews for malibu. I would be more than willing to put one together for the supreme. let me know if anyone has an in.
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-29-2010, 2:41 PM Reply   
Lynnwood Motolpex.

425 774 0505
Old     (liljohn)      Join Date: May 2007       04-29-2010, 7:07 PM Reply   
LMAO! Thanx Duffy I know that much. I was wondering if any one had a personal relationship with one of the people working there. When I did the reviews for Malibu it was spured by a sales man and had to be blessed by the owner. Then when Malibu found out about it we were doing the 23lsv a month later. I will give them a call and see what they have to say.
Old     (ragboy)      Join Date: Aug 2007       04-29-2010, 8:25 PM Reply   
Wow, that looks like a nice wake, and a nice boat. Does anyone know what they cost? roughly? Sorry if I am missing it, I know I have been away for a bit.
Old     (wakebrdjay)      Join Date: Apr 2008       04-30-2010, 4:42 AM Reply   
There was 1 on Onlyinboards listed at $49,999.00.
Old     (liljohn)      Join Date: May 2007       04-30-2010, 8:40 AM Reply   
Ok Lynwood moto plex has Email. lets see if they will let us review it!

Ragboy if you do a search you will find that it looks like only 4 have been built or at least I cant find anymore then 4 different gel styles.
Old     (desotodave)      Join Date: Mar 2009       04-30-2010, 12:43 PM Reply   
That kind of makes sense that only a few boats have been built. I have looked for one for sale, tried to find pictures etc. but it seems like they don't really exist. I think that is so strange where 18 months ago they were supposedly voted BOAT OF THE YEAR. You would think they would capitalize on that press. I understand the market has tanked, and don't blame them if they put off true production of the boat, just curious about the boat.

Seems like there are a group of people on here who are interested as well, if someone works for Supreme fee free to jump in here and let us all know the scoop!!!
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-30-2010, 12:56 PM Reply   
I talked to the ceo. He is suppose to get me more info.
Old     (desotodave)      Join Date: Mar 2009       04-30-2010, 1:06 PM Reply   
Funny!! I just called too!
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-30-2010, 2:15 PM Reply   
I usually email him. What did he say?
Old     (desotodave)      Join Date: Mar 2009       05-01-2010, 10:27 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by duffymahoney View Post
I usually email him. What did he say?
I spoke with Vicky for quite a while, then had e-mail response. Said they are behind in building boats as they were scaled way back. Apparently they have been making some additional changes to the boat, interior, dash, graphics, and working on a new tower. Sounds like production should be online and cooking soon. Looks like we might also get a nice independent review as well.

They said they will have some out in my area in 3 weeks, I will check it out then.

He also sent me these pics.

I do not like the graphics on the surfing picture, but the red one I do like.
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Old     (liljohn)      Join Date: May 2007       04-30-2010, 2:19 PM Reply   
I just heard back from Bryan over at the Lynwood motoplex . The review is on! It sounds like he will be out with the inland surfer boys (Jeff and Lance) next week tweeking the wave. I told him I would gladly wait till they are done to do the review so look forward to alot of pictures and coments. If there is any point of interest that needs close up pics speak your peace now..lol

P.S. please keep your fingers crossed that we have good weather soon to get this done asap. This is Seattle after all.
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-30-2010, 2:24 PM Reply   
Tell them to bring an enzo sac. It wont fit perfect but should work well.
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       04-30-2010, 2:32 PM Reply   
That's awesome news by the way.
Old     (lakesurfer)      Join Date: Jul 2009       04-30-2010, 6:55 PM Reply   
I would also like to see what the wave looks like "safely" loaded. What I mean by this, is that I would like to see what the wave looks like running a few inches below the rub rail. I think this is important because I see all of these nice waves, but a lot of them are produced by nearly sinking the boat. My guess is that the wave still should be great because the Enzo has a very solid wave with just the Enzo sac and a few people.

Thanks.
Old     (ragboy)      Join Date: Aug 2007       05-01-2010, 1:05 AM Reply   
That's a good price. Would love to do a nice review on an affordable boat with a great wake on both sides.
Old     (taft)      Join Date: Jul 2006       05-01-2010, 12:26 PM Reply   
I like how they sent out a picture of the shortest, stubbiest wave so they can show how "big" it can get. I want to see how far back you can ride that thing. Height without length is nothing, just like length without height is nothing.
Old     (desotodave)      Join Date: Mar 2009       05-01-2010, 1:38 PM Reply   
I agree with you. Looks like this boat needs about 500 lbs in the bow. that would bring the nose down and lengthen that baby out. The wave picture is earlier in the post, and that is one of the reasons that I wanted to see what a REAL surfer would feel about the boat if they spent some time riding behind it. I feel it will be good, but I am not sure.

To digress I went out with a buddy who bought a new x45 and was telling me how great the wake was. Well it turns out they were only going about 10 MPH and making a hard left turn to get their HUGE wake. The only problem was you had to have the nose of your board on the swim platform to be in the pocket. I have found that TALL does not mean good. You need length, shape and power from the wave. The boat you are in makes a HUGE difference, as does speed, weight, and how the weight is distributed. I am sure that someone in the know will figure this boat out soon. Looking forward to some REAL grass roots photos!!
Old     (rrw71)      Join Date: Feb 2010       05-01-2010, 2:09 PM Reply   
I might take the family to look later. I'll try and get some pictures of the lockers and storage if I do.
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Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       05-01-2010, 2:45 PM Reply   
Could you measure the lockers, I want to get firm numbers for custom enzo sacs.
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       05-01-2010, 3:08 PM Reply   
Also under the seats for the finger of the enzo sac.
Old     (jdjjamesz)      Join Date: Mar 2008       05-01-2010, 6:40 PM Reply   
Im still waiting to try that wake..
Old     (ragboy)      Join Date: Aug 2007       05-02-2010, 3:42 PM Reply   
So I am editing pics and video from this weekend, and I did an interview, and got the straight story on price and such on this boat. I will post links when I am done.
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       05-02-2010, 4:03 PM Reply   
Sweet! Now you got me excited
Old     (rrw71)      Join Date: Feb 2010       05-02-2010, 5:36 PM Reply   
Didn't get back over there. Maybe Thursday... Brian might have had it on the water by then also.
Old     (ragboy)      Join Date: Aug 2007       05-03-2010, 2:50 PM Reply   
So here you go, make sure you pay attention to the ending, where we talk about the v226. I am very curious/excited to see these.

http://wake9.com/blogs/blog/2010/05/...m-opening-day/
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       05-03-2010, 11:10 PM Reply   
Cool video, I hope the event is a big success.
Old     (ragboy)      Join Date: Aug 2007       05-04-2010, 8:49 AM Reply   
me too. Seems like more and more people are getting excited about it now that the sun is out. Crazy that it was snowing here less than a week ago, and now its beautiful outside.
Old     (lakesurfer)      Join Date: Jul 2009       05-04-2010, 10:05 AM Reply   
Ragboy - Great video. FYI - my 4 year wears his swim goggles to keep the spray out of his eyes when he surfs with me. It definitely has help him enjoy it more.
Old     (motogod77)      Join Date: Aug 2008       05-04-2010, 3:13 PM Reply   
I had a V226 for almost two weeks last year as a demo and used the boat everyday - I should see our 2010 this month and it will be ready to demo if anybody is close to Northern California. Hit me up James and we will put one to the test!

PM me if anybody wants pricing -
Old     (inland_surfer)      Join Date: Aug 2002       05-07-2010, 8:03 PM Reply   
Here's a video link on the V226 .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PsAuMrHtsw
Old     (inland_surfer)      Join Date: Aug 2002       05-06-2010, 8:23 PM Reply   
Brian from Lynnwood Motor Plex ask us to go out and help him set up the v226 wave today on Lake Sammamish WA. We'll have a video link of the wave and ride here soon. Just a note: We were impressed ! [ good times ]
Old     (tonyv420)      Join Date: Jul 2007       05-17-2010, 3:09 PM Reply   
looks like their only going around 8mph. wave is way too short for me. like to see speed and weight info on that pic.
Old     (bac)      Join Date: Feb 2008       05-04-2010, 5:42 PM Reply   
Can't wait here what yall all think of this boat after getting to really surf one.

Maybe its just me, but the more and more that I look at that pic with the mackin wave, it looks to me that the boat is slowing down, but I could be off on that one (and hope I am, but that wave is just crazy)

I'm guessing the dealer in Texas I found online folded. Website is down and phone number is bad. Still waiting for Supreme to get back to me.
Old     (ragboy)      Join Date: Aug 2007       05-06-2010, 3:07 PM Reply   
So I spoke to Andrew from KalKustoms today, he confirmed there will be one v226 to pull demos all weekend. It is not the 8.1 with the switchblade, but should be an example of a boat that should retail for $50-55k range. It will be very interesting to see.
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       05-06-2010, 9:11 PM Reply   
The suspense is killing me!
Old     (desotodave)      Join Date: Mar 2009       05-07-2010, 7:22 AM Reply   
Duffy, I sincerely think they are trying to kill us both off by the suspense!!!

Jeff look forward to your video and report.
Old     (lksamm)      Join Date: Jun 2004       05-07-2010, 10:16 AM Reply   
Here's a iPhone pic of Jeff behind the the 226.
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Old     (ragboy)      Join Date: Aug 2007       05-07-2010, 10:28 AM Reply   
Hey Mark,

Definitely looks like a nice wake, clean. Is it the same on the other side, or do you even care?

Sorry, couldn't help it! ;-)
Old     (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       05-07-2010, 10:42 AM Reply   
Looks really short. I wonder what the speed is. I can't wait for details

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