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ripr 11-17-2013 2:43 PM

Supra's big announcement!
 
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Looks like they're teasing a big announcement coming Nov 21! Saw this on Instagram today...

Supravol22 11-17-2013 5:03 PM

Gonna be a big day!! :D

supra24ssv 11-17-2013 5:15 PM

whatever it is i gotta have it,
anyone want a SA Worlds?

polarbill 11-17-2013 5:15 PM

A little surf system?

MCObray 11-17-2013 9:33 PM

As long as it's not tagged as a "game changer", more power to 'em. There new models are indeed sharp.

cwb4me 11-18-2013 3:41 AM

Well it couldn't be that they will be powered by Ford. That cat is already out the bag. Looks like a new hull design or a surf system.

Ttime41 11-18-2013 4:25 AM

It's a surf system

DatTexasBoy 11-18-2013 7:14 AM

I love the new SC. Bad a$$!!! Should be interesting.

tyler97217 11-18-2013 8:40 AM

I would put my money on a surf system too, but purely speculation.... They make the announcement on Thursday and then they will be in Portland at Evening with the Stars on Friday. Hopefully, they will have whatever that new release is there on Friday. That would be cool if we can be one of the first to see it. I am in the market for a new boat this year too!!!

tmill 11-18-2013 9:26 AM

I have seen it and it definitely cool. But my lips are sealed ;)

trayson 11-18-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tyler97217 (Post 1853219)
I would put my money on a surf system too, but purely speculation.... They make the announcement on Thursday and then they will be in Portland at Evening with the Stars on Friday. Hopefully, they will have whatever that new release is there on Friday. That would be cool if we can be one of the first to see it. I am in the market for a new boat this year too!!!

What is that event like? It looks interesting, but don't want to drive to Oregon City from Vancouver if it's not going to be worthwhile. Fill me in?

boardman74 11-18-2013 12:01 PM

They better watch out Malibu is suing anyone who even says surf system!!! LOL

MCObray 11-18-2013 8:59 PM

I'm sure their surf system will be Swell. :)

tyler97217 11-18-2013 10:15 PM

Trayson. Definitely worth it!!!
Leave early. Traffic is nasty. we typically do a little tailgate accross the street. Stop by and introduce yourself. My name is tyler.
Lots of cool stuff. Good prices on boats and gear. Lots of free giveaways..

jeff_mn 11-19-2013 5:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MCObray (Post 1853301)
I'm sure their surf system will be Swell. :)

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mtownrydr 11-19-2013 8:57 AM

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They posted this on instagram the other day

tyler97217 11-19-2013 9:19 AM

whooaaa.... that is a big barrel!! Got word that we will see the new release in person on Friday....

mtownrydr 11-19-2013 10:04 AM

My bad somebody posted that pic to the Supra facebook page not on Supra's instagram.

ralph 11-19-2013 1:52 PM

Holy, that's pretty legit

jillyjam 11-19-2013 2:14 PM

That barrel is MASSIVE!!

J__bird 11-19-2013 2:42 PM

We are stoked here at slalom shop for what Supra is about to bring to the table for 2014.

CarFanatic5 11-19-2013 3:20 PM

wave looks short in that picture.

dezul 11-19-2013 4:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CarFanatic5 (Post 1853385)
wave looks short in that picture.

It is just a picture. No way to judge that yet. It looks a little washy but the barrel is pretty cool. I am excited to see what innovative system they have come up with.

boardjnky4 11-19-2013 4:43 PM

washy? I'm not seeing washy

dezul 11-19-2013 5:51 PM

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Originally Posted by boardjnky4 (Post 1853392)
washy? I'm not seeing washy

You're blind old man.jk. Look at the top of the wave starting near the prop and going back. It is impossible to tell what it is actually doing though.

JetRanger 11-19-2013 6:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dezul (Post 1853405)
You're blind old man.jk. Look at the top of the wave starting near the prop and going back. It is impossible to tell what it is actually doing though.

Well if you ask me (and most people do), that wake looks great! Good to see someone besides MC making a killer surf boat!

dezul 11-19-2013 7:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JetRanger (Post 1853406)
Well if you ask me (and most people do), that wake looks great! Good to see someone besides MC making a killer surf boat!

As a previous Centurion owner, it looks okay. Not super impressive but better than most modified v hulls. If the wakeboard wake is equally impressive then it might be cool. I am not impressed but I am intrigued.

JetRanger 11-19-2013 8:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dezul (Post 1853417)
As a previous Centurion owner, it looks okay. Not super impressive but better than most modified v hulls. If the wakeboard wake is equally impressive then it might be cool. I am not impressed but I am intrigued.

I am also not impressed and also intrigued. I am also bemused, speculative, and juxtapository. I am not amused, nor am I not not amused. Though the wake is impressive it's not super impressive which leaves me impressed but not super impressed. If the wakeboard wake is equally impressive then it might be, as a whole, more impressive, though at this point I am not impressed but I am intrigued.

mhibbing 11-19-2013 10:07 PM

Washy and short?...are we looking at the same picture or did I just misplace my simon cowell glasses? Anybody got a pair I can borrow?

Ttime41 11-20-2013 4:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dezul (Post 1853417)
As a previous Centurion owner, it looks okay. Not super impressive but better than most modified v hulls. If the wakeboard wake is equally impressive then it might be cool. I am not impressed but I am intrigued.

Have you ridden behind an SA or SC yet? Two very impressive wakeboard wakes

tyler97217 11-20-2013 6:18 AM

Yeah not sure what some are seeing. Looks big, clean and impressive to me, but like all things, we need to see this in person. Pictures don't tell everything, but looks very impressive and have been hearing good things. There is no doubt the wakeboard wake on the SA and SC are very impressive.

DatTexasBoy 11-20-2013 8:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JetRanger (Post 1853425)
I am also not impressed and also intrigued. I am also bemused, speculative, and juxtapository. I am not amused, nor am I not not amused. Though the wake is impressive it's not super impressive which leaves me impressed but not super impressed. If the wakeboard wake is equally impressive then it might be, as a whole, more impressive, though at this point I am not impressed but I am intrigued.

Jet,

You have too much time on your hands. I did laugh pretty hard though. Thx.

I'm impressed, well I'm really not sure what I am now.

JetRangerThePoser 11-20-2013 12:09 PM

"And, while I'm amused by not being amused, and unimpressively bemused, I am also too sexy for my shirt." Right Said Jet.

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dezul 11-20-2013 5:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ttime41 (Post 1853435)
Have you ridden behind an SA or SC yet? Two very impressive wakeboard wakes

Maybe they went all reverse Tige on us and came out with a deep v hull. The only sc i have seen was never used for wakeboard. I swear the guy only took it out to party cove.

cwb4me 11-20-2013 6:06 PM

I guess we will see something tomorrow?

MCObray 11-20-2013 11:43 PM

It is going to be legit. Can't wait for the annoucement!

tushar1234 11-21-2013 12:10 AM

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tushar1234 11-21-2013 12:11 AM

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iamcdn 11-21-2013 7:05 AM

http://www.supraboats.com/swell/

gunford 11-21-2013 7:53 AM

Are those not similar to MC surf tabs which they are apparently improving upon?

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tyler97217 11-21-2013 8:23 AM

Rob G
This is the first time I have seen it too... My first thought was MC as well, but if you really look at it it is different. Look at how the ram is mounted to the plate. Coming from the opposite direction (back to the front). The normal wakeplate or trim tab the ram comes from front to back and only offers limited motion. Much more range of motion and can go all the way down. Like literally 90 degrees.... Also, for those that want to switch sides it offers that quickly.
From what I have heard it is much more effective and appears to be from pics and video. I suppose it is fair to say "improved upon" though.

Ttime41 11-21-2013 8:48 AM

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Originally Posted by dezul (Post 1853523)
Maybe they went all reverse Tige on us and came out with a deep v hull. The only sc i have seen was never used for wakeboard. I swear the guy only took it out to party cove.

You seem to be confused sir. Supras have traditionally had deep-V hulls (see 21v, 22v, 242). The SA and SC are part of a new generation of flatter bottom hulls for Supra, which allows them to be able to take crazy amounts of weight and get a huge, clean & consistent wake every time. They're much better for wakeboarding than the old deep-V hulls which would crumble with too much weight, as deep-V boats from most brands do

gunford 11-21-2013 9:00 AM

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Originally Posted by tyler97217 (Post 1853569)
Rob G
This is the first time I have seen it too... My first thought was MC as well, but if you really look at it it is different. Look at how the ram is mounted to the plate. Coming from the opposite direction (back to the front). The normal wakeplate or trim tab the ram comes from front to back and only offers limited motion. Much more range of motion and can go all the way down. Like literally 90 degrees.... Also, for those that want to switch sides it offers that quickly.
From what I have heard it is much more effective and appears to be from pics and video. I suppose it is fair to say "improved upon" though.

It definitely looks impressive. Hopefully MC's new/improved system does the same as I have one on order.

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shawndoggy 11-21-2013 9:12 AM

That wave is really short (distance from transom to end of pocket).

Good on supra for doing something a little different.

fman 11-21-2013 9:24 AM

Wave looks great, it can't be too short there are two people riding it at the same time. Congrats to Supra, this will drive up there stock with a nice surf system. It looks well built and I like how it engages from under platform similar to NSS.

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boardjnky4 11-21-2013 9:43 AM

I'm relatively more impressed by this than I thought I would be. They thought outside the box to create a system that would not only throw a wave, but it has the adjust-ability to change the shape of the wave. Nicely done.

dejoeco 11-21-2013 10:00 AM

It is a nice innovation but it is in the same vein as surf gate and NSS as far as I can see. I am not a Malibu fan, but they were the first in this wave of tab enhancements and therefor they would be the game changer because of the first position.

I am glad that all the boat companies are on the surf bandwagon.

MCObray 11-21-2013 10:04 AM

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11-21-2013 10:10 AM

I'm impressed it''s as ****ty as it is. That wave is total garbage. I'm equally impressed that someone would purchase a Mastercrap for surfing. Smart move.

11-21-2013 10:13 AM

Flat bottom boat = crappy/mushy/washy wave.

Ttime41 11-21-2013 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SMDFSRK (Post 1853590)
I'm impressed it''s as ****ty as it is. That wave is total garbage. I'm equally impressed that someone would purchase a Mastercrap for surfing. Smart move.

Your trolling adds nothing to this thread. Move along

tn_rider 11-21-2013 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ttime41 (Post 1853592)
Your trolling adds nothing to this thread. Move along

This

jhartt3 11-21-2013 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dejoeco (Post 1853586)
It is a nice innovation but it is in the same vein as surf gate and NSS as far as I can see. I am not a Malibu fan, but they were the first in this wave of tab enhancements and therefor they would be the game changer because of the first position.

I am glad that all the boat companies are on the surf bandwagon.

This is an entirely different concept physics wise than both of those systems. The only similarity is its a tab of some sort mounted to a ram. Malibu and nautique both delay wave convergence. This is much closer to the trim tabs Mc has been using for a few years. Just cut in a way that allows for different water flow at different angles.

mikebu 11-21-2013 11:21 AM

What are the chances you can retro fit this into older Supras?

tyler97217 11-21-2013 11:26 AM

I think this system is all integrated into the new Vision system so I am not sure you can. I am sure the concept could be duplicated and maybe they will do a manual system you can upgrade to????

spencerwm 11-21-2013 12:04 PM

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The new video looks cool. I am interested to see how different this system is compared to what MasterCraft has quietly offered on the X-10. The system does look clean. I am guessing it had to be someone redesigned because of the Malibu Nautique battle.

dejoeco 11-21-2013 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mikebu (Post 1853599)
What are the chances you can retro fit this into older Supras?

I will agree and disagree with you. Yes, it is different physics wise. Yes, it is it is a refined trim tab. The Surf Gate is a tab that extends sideways and the NSS goes sideways excet the motion is directly out to the side.

Finally I agree that MC has used trim tabs on the sides similar to this before. This just reinforces my premise that it is not a game changer, just maybe a nice innovation.

just my .02 or maybe .01 worth

shawndoggy 11-21-2013 12:45 PM

does this work on an opposite side deployment principle like the other systems??

mhibbing 11-21-2013 12:52 PM

It has two different modes: skim and barrel. It delays and shapes water in both modes

tmill 11-21-2013 12:57 PM

If does work with the opposite deployment but on the barrel setting it deploys the surf side tab down to 90* under the boat.

I can say after riding this sytem it realy is amazing and rides completely different than any of the other systems out there.

nailem 11-21-2013 1:10 PM

Does this system also work at wakeboard speeds? Why doesn't Centurion's CAT system get more respect? It is much different than the other systems and seems like the only one that can be used at wakeboard speeds.

boardjnky4 11-21-2013 1:27 PM

It doesn't get respect because Centurion doesn't advertise their boats for wakeboarding, even though they throw great wakes. They're trying to corner the surf market, which is not a bad plan.

brycejb328 11-21-2013 2:07 PM

so.. who doensn't have a "surf system" now? MB? I imagine that moomba will get this same system sooner than later.

sanger and epic do the tabs dont they? depending if you consider that an actual "surf system"

JetRanger 11-21-2013 3:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SMDFSRK (Post 1853590)
I'm impressed it''s as ****ty as it is. That wave is total garbage. I'm equally impressed that someone would purchase a Mastercrap for surfing. Smart move.

I'm the only one who can make outlandish statements on this forum...

cwb4me 11-21-2013 3:37 PM

Well this new system is making waves.

lionel 11-21-2013 4:00 PM

Good info Trevor, so at skim it's more of a 45 degree angle?

tmill 11-21-2013 4:20 PM

I believe that the skim setting has the surf side tab at 0

Austinb23 11-21-2013 5:05 PM

im not the only pissed off owner of a 2013 supra

polarbill 11-21-2013 5:46 PM

Wave looks pretty solid. It may not be a game changer in general but with the SA and the new SC I think this puts Supra right there with Mastercraft, malibu and nautique. I honestly the days of listing a boat for surfing are gone other than for the super hardcore surfing snobs. Seeing how those super hardcore surfing snobs probably make about about 1% of the potential buyers I think this is a good move by Supra. I think another thing these surf systems do is allow boats that have a flatter hull, that is better for all around wakeboarding, have a legitimate surf wave. The Malibu's, Nautique's and and now Supras.

I would 100% expect Skier's choice to add this as an option to the moomba line. There is absolutely no reason not to.

I am really liking what Skier's Choice is doing these days. They have great looking, very luxurious, well built boats that perform really well. If I was Skiers choice I would put every boat they make on a variation of the SA/SC hull including the Moombas. I would add a 20-21' SC/SA and a 23-24' SC/SA to the line. Drop the 24v/ssv and just have those 6 models. Then for moomba I would go with the Mojo and Mondo(please rename) and that is it. Again, those 2 boats should be on the same hull design as the SA/SC. At some point I may incorporate a true pickfork to the lineup as well. I still don't get why some manufacturers try and overthink/engineer the hull. Malibu figured out the best/first. Find a great performing hull and carry it over to every size and style of boat. That has to save costs on R&D costs.

Shane10p 11-21-2013 5:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Austinb23 (Post 1853649)
im not the only pissed off owner of a 2013 supra

I also have a 2013 Supra. Are we really going to be mad because our boat maker continues to push forward with new ideas ? Nope cant be if anything this should really help push Supra forward in my opinion. I'm glad to see they have a surf system and it looks like its going to be really solid system . Fact is my SA has great wakeboard wake and last time I checked I can still surf behind it . I'm pumped to be surfing behind the all black SC that will hopefully be running around Portland next summer .....

polarbill 11-21-2013 6:14 PM

Shane, is Tyler getting a new SC?

Shane10p 11-21-2013 6:21 PM

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Originally Posted by polarbill (Post 1853657)
Shane, is Tyler getting a new SC?

I have no idea, but the new SC with the SWELL system is going to be a hard one to pass on those boats look awesome !

bspot5 11-21-2013 7:34 PM

Did anybody else notice they didn't show video of the switch, only snapshots? Obviously doesn't switch very fast and tried to fool us. The wake does look better than any Supra I have seen but still not near a surfgate or NSS wave.

tmill 11-21-2013 7:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bspot5 (Post 1853667)
Did anybody else notice they didn't show video of the switch, only snapshots? Obviously doesn't switch very fast and tried to fool us. The wake does look better than any Supra I have seen but still not near a surfgate or NSS wave.

lol, yea trick you. I promise it switches plenty fast. There is another video out there that shows the switch, I will see if I can find it.

Supravol22 11-21-2013 7:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bspot5 (Post 1853667)
Did anybody else notice they didn't show video of the switch, only snapshots? Obviously doesn't switch very fast and tried to fool us. The wake does look better than any Supra I have seen but still not near a surfgate or NSS wave.

https://vimeo.com/79718534


This video has a shot of the transfer. The press release also quoted the transfer at 1.8 seconds

dezul 11-21-2013 9:05 PM

It all looks good to me. I figured it would be tabs. The wave looks good.

bspot5 11-21-2013 9:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dezul (Post 1853677)
It all looks good to me. I figured it would be tabs. The wave looks good.

Like that video was any better? More quick video clips with tricky angles.

lionel 11-21-2013 9:14 PM

Austin, if (unlike Malibu) you can get the parts from Supra, these switches and brain box will most likely be compatible:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenco-Marine...31f283&vxp=mtr

dezul 11-22-2013 3:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bspot5 (Post 1853679)
Like that video was any better? More quick video clips with tricky angles.

Its part of marketing. The boat didnt look slammed in the video. It would be nice to see it with weight in it.


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