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rmaytee 07-13-2013 12:15 AM

1992 Supra Sunsport or 1995 MB Sports Boss 210?
 
I'm looking for an inexpensive inboard I can use for a wakeboarding boat for a coue years. I'd like to put a couple thousand $ into it and maybe sell it and upgrade. I love a big wake and plan to do a little bit of surfing. Not too worried about a good ski wake. With similar weight, are the wakes comparable?

Between these two boats that are for sale locally for $9k I was leaning towards the MB because it has perfect pass. But it also has 900 hrs and the Supra has 350. Should 900 hrs scare me away? Any other concerns?

xstarrider 07-13-2013 8:13 AM

I have no experience with that particular MB boat.

With that said the Supra Sunsports are a great budget wakeboarding boat. They are very deep inside so you can throw a ton of weight in them. They have a deeper v hull, and they are pretty roomy on the comp boat direct drive side for those years. You will never have to worry about a buddy burying the nose into a wave. It's a rock solid tank in the water than can produce a really nice poppy wake.

Tahoe_MB 07-13-2013 10:26 AM

MB
 
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Originally Posted by rmaytee (Post 1833386)
I'm looking for an inexpensive inboard I can use for a wakeboarding boat for a coue years. I'd like to put a couple thousand $ into it and maybe sell it and upgrade. I love a big wake and plan to do a little bit of surfing. Not too worried about a good ski wake. With similar weight, are the wakes comparable?

Between these two boats that are for sale locally for $9k I was leaning towards the MB because it has perfect pass. But it also has 900 hrs and the Supra has 350. Should 900 hrs scare me away? Any other concerns?

I would go w MB... MB is Composite stringers vs wood in Supra and the glass layup and gel coat are superior. On the engine I have 850 hrs on my PCM Proski EFI still runs like a champ. If it is an EFI engine that would be enough for me. Supra will be carb.

Austinb23 07-13-2013 12:19 PM

1992 was the first year that supra went to all composite stingers no wood in that boat and had an 1989 sunsport for 13 years and loved it every year every time i was on that boat and i now have a 2013 sunsport

gpd005 07-15-2013 1:50 PM

I have a 96 MB Sports Boss 210 and I love my boat. It would still be a carb model i'm assuming but with that being said our boat does great. If it has the large trunk in the back you can put a nice sized sac back there and you don't have to worry about walking around them or on them. That Supra model is super deep like Swatguy said so you would never have to worry about dipping the nose. I do have to keep an eye on mine or you could have water inside really quick but it's still better than some of the flatter boats out there. Either way i think you would be happy.

zap 07-15-2013 2:36 PM

I would love to take a sport boss and wrap it matt black and do a saddle and lime green interior, only run it at 6:00am and 9:00 pm for skiing

DGREEN 07-16-2013 9:39 PM

Sunsport aaaalllllll day long.

jeepdude 07-17-2013 11:00 AM

I would vote Supra as well. I learned behind a sunsport and almost ended up with one a few years ago.
It was one of the best Direct Drives.

I'm not sure if all supra's were composite stringers yet.
An easy way to tell on the sunsport is if the windshield has a rounded side window or one with hard angles.

trayson 07-17-2013 11:15 AM

I own a 1992 Sunsport. I also used to ride behind a closed bow 1996 Boss 200. The MB would take water over the bow all the time and riding in the chop was downright painful. I remember lifting my ass off the seat so I didn't break my spine...

I am VERY happy with my sunsport. As stated, it puts out a nice wakeboard wake. I have a flyhigh tube sac under the rear seat (just cut out the dividers). I combine that with another tube sac on the rear floor, and a 750 fat sac next to the doghouse and about a 150 pound sack that fills the front cooler behind the playpen. So, for surfing I have 1200 to 1400 pounds of ballast.

This is with 2 people in the boat and the 1200 to 1400 pounds of ballast.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-F...0321895570.jpg

Here is the wakeboarding wake with only the under seat tube sac 2/3 full.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-U.../IMG954484.jpg

The new dimensions tower is hands down the best way to go for the tower on the supra. looks very OEM.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-c...80204841_n.jpg

I am really happy with the playpen bow. it's my wife's "happy place".

Yes, in 1992 they went all composite and you can verify that with the rounded windshield. The supra handles the chop well and it has a TON of freeboard so it's great as mentioned above. There is also a great user community that has been a ton of help:
http://www.supraboats.com/bbs/forum.php

If you have any other questions about the 92 Supra, fire away. I'm damn happy with mine and for the money, it'd be hard to find a better boat for me.

trayson 07-17-2013 11:18 AM

BTW, I was able to get my Supra for under $10k and it had:
  • 530 hours
  • basic stereo with a kenwood mp3/usb/aux input deck and 4 lower end kenwood speakers
  • perfect pass
  • hard plumbed ballast under rear seat
  • new dimensions tower with two racks
  • bimini
  • sunbrella cover
  • low pitch prop
  • dual battery with perko switch
  • heater
  • rear cusions needed re-upholstery

Dmac420sj 07-17-2013 11:22 AM

^^steaighten those legs out for some pop don't be scared!!

trayson 07-17-2013 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dmac420sj (Post 1834104)
^^steaighten those legs out for some pop don't be scared!!

LOL. yeah, not my best wakeboarding shot, but a good shot of the wake. :o

Dmac420sj 07-17-2013 12:32 PM

Lol I was just playing

trayson 07-17-2013 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmac420sj (Post 1834139)
Lol I was just playing

no worries. :-) Still love that pic with the bridge in it.

rmaytee 07-18-2013 8:30 AM

Thanks for the comments. And Trayson, I've seen your build on the supra forums. Read through it several times. Beautiful boat.
I have them talked down to $7400 here are a few pics:
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps2e216138.jpg
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps4cec2731.jpg
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r...pse7656ca0.jpg

trayson 07-18-2013 9:33 AM

Everything looks to be in decent shape. Your rear cushions are hashed like mine were.

Intresting how yours got the "wood grain" dash. I guess I got lucky with something more neutral.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-W...25286%2529.jpg

Looks like you have a great boat though. The lines on the tower aren't bad. (it would look better with bars going sideways on it, but at least it has a reasonable bend to it on the rear.)

Can you show me a pic of how the rear of your boat is strapped down? My platform seems to be in the way of rear straps. Curious how yours is done.

Good on ya for talking them down in price. I am sure you'll enjoy it a lot.

onthecreek 07-18-2013 9:37 AM

$7400 for a composite sunsport?...what's the phone number, lol.

seats obviously need to be redone but that's a really good price provided the mechanicals check out. the price is almost too cheap.

trayson 07-18-2013 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by onthecreek (Post 1834348)
$7400 for a composite sunsport?...what's the phone number, lol.

seats obviously need to be redone but that's a really good price provided the mechanicals check out. the price is almost too cheap.

The hours are lower than mine... But I got mine for $9,500 but for that $2k premium I got a nicer tower with racks, a ballast system under the rear seat, Perfect pass, low pitch prop, dual battery, bimini, cover...

Seems about comperable aside from the fact that his has lower hours. I'd say it was a good price, but not unheard of. I certainly wouldn't have paid $9,500 for mine if it didn't have the extras.

machloosy 07-18-2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by onthecreek (Post 1834348)
$7400 for a composite sunsport?...what's the phone number, lol.

seats obviously need to be redone but that's a really good price provided the mechanicals check out. the price is almost too cheap.

That's what I'm saying. Last composite sunsport I saw was a '95 with no tower/ballast/system. Asking $15k :eek:

trayson 07-18-2013 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by machloosy (Post 1834377)
That's what I'm saying. Last composite sunsport I saw was a '95 with no tower/ballast/system. Asking $15k :eek:

Maybe you're right...

http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/boa/3913075121.html (seems high priced to me)

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/3938989692.html (clean lookijng but even more hours and $$$)

Maybe the OP and I are lucky??

machloosy 07-18-2013 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by trayson (Post 1834380)
Maybe you're right...

http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/boa/3913075121.html (seems high priced to me)

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/3938989692.html (clean lookijng but even more hours and $$$)

Maybe the OP and I are lucky??

I think you both are really lucky. It's also because I'm really jealous :banghead:

To bring it all back to the OP;s question... Buy the Supra! Especially for $7400!!!

trayson 07-18-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by machloosy (Post 1834381)
I think you both are really lucky. It's also because I'm really jealous :banghead:

To bring it all back to the OP;s question... Buy the Supra! Especially for $7400!!!

Well, don't be jealous of my boat minus transmission:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F...705_185133.jpg

And the money I'll be paying to the rebuilder when I get this package back from them:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-0...709_094319.jpg

rmaytee 07-18-2013 1:47 PM

I haven't picked it up yet. It's kinda pending a good test drive. I'm sure they're only willing to drop the price cause its been for sale for a couple months. They are in an inconvenient area, but only like an hour from me. It looks a bit sun bleached and with those low hours I'm sure it has sat a ton. So I'm a bit worried about the motor not being cycled much, but for that price... And the gel coat isn't anything a good professional buff job wouldn't shine up.

rmaytee 07-18-2013 6:29 PM

I'm also curious where you might be able to pick up a tournament boat style jump seat?


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