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burban89 05-28-2013 5:47 AM

Need some wake comparisons
 
So I have ridden behind Nautiques most of my boarding life and wonder if there is any other boat with a similar wake. I rode behind a malibu with the wedge and it was rampy and an older supra which also seems to be rampy.

Is there any other boat like a SAN with a peaky wake with the lip on it? I am looking to buy a VDrive and my budget is hurting me on a SAN or SS.

How is Sanger, Supreme, Epic etc compared to the Nautique?

Thanks everyone for your input!

FunkyBunch 05-28-2013 7:04 AM

IMO there is nothing else like the old 210 hull if that is what you like. There are things that resemble it but nothing else like it. That being said try a Supra 21v its pretty steep and the Epic has that snap to it as well but its different too.
Personally if SAN is what you like wait until you find the right boat you'll kick your self all the time if you don't.

biggator 05-28-2013 8:01 AM

There's nothing else like a 210 wake. Love it or hate it.. it's unique.

nickdakoolkat 05-30-2013 8:02 PM

It's not a 210, but for what it's worth the older centurions (avalanche, Enzo) have a pretty nice lip, and are more affordable (if there is a such thing as a affordable wakeboard boat lol) ....just save your pennies and try to find a deal on an older 210 of that's what you love

simplej 05-30-2013 8:08 PM

the epic is pretty steep supposedly, my RZR (r20 hull too) gets reeeeeeeallllly lippy with some weight but is pretty new. don't know what your budget is

MrShelley 05-30-2013 8:11 PM

Nothing compares to the legacy 210 wake! What's your budget?

goride 05-30-2013 8:57 PM

Supra 21v can get eeally kippy as well, I actually prefer it to a 210 wake which is prob my 2nd tavorite wake

ralph 05-30-2013 9:25 PM

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Sanger V210 is similar to the SAN210 when weighted right. It is a bit more rampy but still has the hard vertical lip.

superair502 05-30-2013 11:35 PM

I had a 2001 210 for like 3 years and I can say I have ridden just about every flagship wakeboat out there and nothing is going be similar to the 210. The 210 was so different that every time I rode someone elses boat I would leave so early and would ride terrible every time which really sucked in contests. Actually of all the boats out there I would say the new model x star is the closest but it is bigger and a little softer than the old 210. It is almost like a supersized 210 wake if you slowed down a few mph. The transition in is more forgiving though.
If you end up getting a newer boat you are just going to have to go with the more rampy trend that all the wakes out there have now. I really hated it at first but once you figure it out its nice getting the same pop every time. I sure dont miss getting kicked way off axis on spins occasionally like the 210 would do and load and release tricks are alot easier but man I miss that straight up boot on tantrum and front roll based tricks.

superair502 05-30-2013 11:38 PM

Also on a budget I would go with a barefoot 2001 nautique that wake is very similar to a 210 for about 1/3 the price. Also it only takes a few hundred pounds to get the wake big enough for most riders out there.

cwb4me 05-31-2013 3:30 AM

I rode several 210 wakes and all were awesome.I haven't ridden a Epic or a Sanger,but have ridden all the other manufacturers. No other wake is the same as a Nautique. Mason is right it doesn't take but about 500 to 600 lbs to get a great wake out of the older 210's. Good Luck

05-31-2013 7:56 AM

I love the axis wake best wake for your buck in my opinion http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/31/re9a3emu.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/31/8ubezeqy.jpg

ToPHeR35 05-31-2013 8:30 AM

I got a 2008 MC X2 and it comes stock with ~600 lbs. If we waited for the 09 they upped it to 900 lbs which I really wish we would have gotten. The wake is really nice and rampy, but you can def tell the difference in wake size. Might upgrade to a newer X2 or X10 and throw some additional ballast into it.

migs 05-31-2013 8:48 AM

MC 205V slammed.

MICAH_HARPER 05-31-2013 8:59 AM

how much you looking to spend.....wanting to buy used or new????

jarrod 05-31-2013 10:15 AM

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Malibu MXZ 22. Tune it to your liking. Rider is 6'

superair502 05-31-2013 10:22 AM

I was actually referring to a barefoot nautique when I said that. I ran like 3500 lbs in my 210 when I had it.

superair502 05-31-2013 10:25 AM

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Here is a couple shots of my 210 wake when I had it with like 3000-3500 lbs both riders are around 6ft

superair502 05-31-2013 10:27 AM

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Other pic

burban89 05-31-2013 10:57 AM

Well right now I am at 16k and having no luck on a supersport or old SAN. I am trying to sell my SN2001 to get up above 20k and then I should be able to find a SAN or SS. 20k for a 1995 SS seeems crazy lol. I have seen a lot of boats in low 20s though.

I am holding out for a SS or SAN just wondered if anything was similar. I am just impaitent )

joshugan 05-31-2013 11:04 AM

Unfortunatley, you're at the wrong time of year for buying a wakeboard boat. Great time to sell though. I bought an immaculate 2000 SAN for $19,000 two years ago. I watched craigslist regularly for about a month before I found it and had to drive 13 hours to California and 13 back. It has been amazing. I bought it in October.

superair502 05-31-2013 3:16 PM

I just sold my 2001 San with custom ballast wetsounds and stargazer for 19k so you can find one for 20k just the used market is crazy right now with new boat prices

MrShelley 05-31-2013 10:21 PM

Also, don't discount the older direct drive Sport & Air Nautiques. My '98 Air (DD) threw a beast of a wake when sacked out. Not as lippy as my SANTE, but still very respectable.

burban89 06-01-2013 5:56 AM

So funny story. I have been looking and emailing people all week. Right after my last post I recieved a phone call from a guy 9hrs away and said he still had his 95 super sport and it was still for sale.

Long story short I got the boat for 17k and it's fully loaded. Ballast PP FCT tower. The guy dropped his price from 19900 as he was buying another boat also. I drove all night and just got it. When I get home I will get pictures.

It's crazy how it all happened but now I got what I wanted!!

jarrod 06-01-2013 6:50 AM

Congrats!!

burban89 06-01-2013 10:03 AM

Thanks! My buddy and I have been driving none stop since 7pm last night. Should get it home around 8 tonight.

MrShelley 06-01-2013 10:08 PM

Congratulations! Post pics!

LYNRDSKYNRD 06-02-2013 5:16 AM

Congrats and drive safe

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burban89 06-02-2013 6:53 PM

I have not forgot to add pictures, I will have some tomorrow. It has been crazy since I got home. it has not eve hit the water yet :-(

burban89 06-03-2013 8:02 AM

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Here are a couple pics from the guy I bought it from. The weather is crap so I will get more pics soon and have wake pics as well.

wakebrdjay 06-03-2013 8:22 AM

Nice score,that looks really well maintained.

burban89 06-03-2013 8:32 AM

it is, it is unbelievable how well it looks compared to other boats at the same price or a few grand cheaper. I almost spent 15 on one that needed interior and possible a transmission. This was a huge score for me!

FunkyBunch 06-03-2013 11:54 AM

Congrats. Looks like a super nice boat and you got what you wanted.

natedogg 06-03-2013 12:16 PM

Congrats!! Ive put a little over 200 hours on my 96 SS and it has done everything perfect and almost 0 problems. You're gonna love it!


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