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lavinder 03-20-2013 9:19 AM

Washington Requires CO Sticker
 
Registered my boat yesterday here in Washington and was asked if I had a prominently displayed Carbon Monoxide sticker. I am told they are now required under new Washington law and enforceable by all agencies. The licensing place had the sticker and handed me one.
The clerk said they are doing a lot of boat inspections and specifically looking for this sticker.

pennery 03-20-2013 9:37 AM

Do Cars have to display a Carbon Monoxide Sticker? What does it say? What it is for? Sounds like another Government waste of money to me....

boardman74 03-20-2013 9:56 AM

Treehuggers pushing their agenda's.

CarZin 03-20-2013 9:56 AM

Are you surfing 5 feet from the exhaust on a car? not entirely sure this is needed, but given many people out there are surfing without cats, maybe not a horrible idea to raise awareness.

^ I dont think this has anything to do with a green agenda.

lavinder 03-20-2013 9:56 AM

Small 2"x6" (ish) warning the dangers of inhaling CO fumes. I haven't heard of any issues around here on any of our lakes with CO poisening.

spencerwm 03-20-2013 10:01 AM

Seems like a waste of money and time to me. I hate having to put stickers on my boat period. You are in Washington. Are you sure it is not a "This boat runs on Cannabis oil" sticker?

Midnightv10 03-20-2013 11:03 AM

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Its not really a big deal... just a little sticker

Talonsorensen 03-20-2013 11:35 AM

@lavinder you ever make it to long lake in port orchard?

Wakesounds 03-20-2013 12:24 PM

Last year they were giving them out, but weren't required to my knowledge. Maybe it changed this year?

saberworks 03-20-2013 4:03 PM

They've been required for at least a few years, and I got a "warning" from some boat cop in Bremerton for not having one. When I went in to the DOL to get one, they were out! Anyway, I finally got one but haven't stuck it yet, it's big, ugly, and completely silly. They're just looking for more things to ticket for and make some money.

http://www.dol.wa.gov/vehicleregistr...costicker.html

No offense, but if anyone sits at the back of the boat breathing fumes from the exhaust until they die they likely aren't the type that will read the sticker in the first place.

lavinder 03-20-2013 4:47 PM

@Talon, no I haven't been to Long Lake with my boat. My neighbors go there weekly throughout the year (swimsuits, wetsuits, to drysuits) to ski. We primarily boat at Lake Cushman, occasionally at Mason Lake.

I figure I will stick my sticker by my CG weight limit sticker. Keep in bundled.

saberworks 03-20-2013 8:36 PM

Lake Cushman is nice but cooold. Mason lake got a new public boat ramp a while ago which is really nice, but the path out to the main part of the lake is still too shallow :(

lavinder 03-20-2013 8:46 PM

Lake Cushman has varying temps from damn that's cold, to nice and warm. Typically we are around 55 degrees in May, 70 in August. I suit up from Memorial until about the second week of June, then shorts until they draw the lake back down in September.
Mason can get so crowded on the weekends, you can't find calm water. And the water is fairly stagnant. The new ramp is nice though.

SS_Hooke102 03-20-2013 9:19 PM

yeah man, definitely would advise getting that sticker, our group got checked almost every other time we went out last year (okay, maybe not exactly as we put on 100 hrs. last year, but we did get pulled over and "checked" more than ten times).

Midnightv10 03-20-2013 10:23 PM

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In Washington, and I am sure in most any other state, you can get your vessle checked by both State and USCG officers for free and they will give you a small sticker for the side of your boat.
I know we all dont really want to add any stickers...BUT... these can save you a lot of hassle... the first year I had my boat out on the Columbia, I was getting checked constantly, then the next year the first time I got checked I asked them why they cant track boats they have checked using the registration numbers or something instead of always stopping us. He gave me the old "its my job" speech (which I guess I can understand), but then he handed me a sticker and said put this on your boat and then we will know we have already checked you. Didnt get checked for the rest of the year after that. So now I chase them down at the beginning of each season and have them give me a new sticker...

jtech 03-20-2013 11:11 PM

I thought I read somewhere awhile back that the CG and State Police "stops" were total BS under the law. How does being on the water allow them to throw PC out the window and inspect your vessel every time you are on the water without the CG or State sticker? I don't see the difference between this harassment and the police that demand you provide ID when open carrying a firearm legally in a public place under the premise that they are "just investigating a complaint" crap.

Maybe there is some maritime law that allows them to skirt Probable Cause, but I doubt it.

03-24-2013 9:05 PM

I have avoided displaying that sticker in my boat. I keep my boat on Spencer Lake, which is a pretty small lake near Mason Lake. The Sheriff doesn't come out much, so we have nothing to worry about.

ilikebeaverandboats 03-24-2013 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CarZin (Post 1812380)
Are you surfing 5 feet from the exhaust on a car? not entirely sure this is needed, but given many people out there are surfing without cats, maybe not a horrible idea to raise awareness.

^ I dont think this has anything to do with a green agenda.

uuuuuh ahhh i really want to disagree with you..... Here is a wikipedia article blurb about exposure. I cant really find anything to support the idea that we as wakesurfers are between the 35ppm and 100ppm bracket, many factors come into play here, ie wind speed, wake(from the air around the vessel) and exhaust location. You know when you are breathing exhaust.... Yes, CO is oderless, but that is when it is in its PURE form...the exhaust you are interacting with is not PURE CO, which is why you can smell it.

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35 ppm (0.0035%) Headache and dizziness within six to eight hours of constant exposure
100 ppm (0.01%) Slight headache in two to three hours
200 ppm (0.02%) Slight headache within two to three hours; loss of judgment
400 ppm (0.04%) Frontal headache within one to two hours
800 ppm (0.08%) Dizziness, nausea, and convulsions within 45 min; insensible within 2 hours
1,600 ppm (0.16%) Headache, tachycardia, dizziness, and nausea within 20 min; death in less than 2 hours
3,200 ppm (0.32%) Headache, dizziness and nausea in five to ten minutes. Death within 30 minutes.
6,400 ppm (0.64%) Headache and dizziness in one to two minutes. Convulsions, respiratory arrest, and death in less than 20 minutes.
12,800 ppm (1.28%) Unconsciousness after 23 breaths. Death in less than three minutes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide_poisoning

If anyone has evidence that says otherwise, let me know!


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