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mjfan23 10-13-2012 9:28 AM

What is Kobe Doing?
 
For a player that is on the downfall of his career. What is he thinking?

His comments about Smush Parker made him look like the complete fool that he is. One of the most ridiculous shots at a guy that hasnt played in the league since like 09. What a terrible individual.

brettw 10-13-2012 8:54 PM

I like Smush's comment,
"What I personally don't like about him is the man that he is, his personality, how he treats people,"

Basically he's calling Kobe the piece of crap human that he is. That's a heck of a lot worse than not being the best basketball player around.

Kobe is a douche.

10-14-2012 9:35 AM

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Originally Posted by brettw (Post 1789516)
Kobe is a douche.

This is all that needs to be said.

digg311 10-14-2012 8:16 PM

⇈⇈⇈that⇈⇈⇈

stephan 10-15-2012 9:25 AM

I think you meant to say "downside" not "downfall". A talent like Kobe doesn't have a basketball downfall. Personally, clearly he is not everyone's favorite.

On paper the Lakers have the best team in the league, hopefully they can put it to good use. The passing of the torch to Dwight will be fun.

Edit: Cue mjfan's rant about how terrible Kobe is, both personally and as a player. All his faults are __________ and Michael Jordan and Lebron are 8x the player.

ttrigo 10-15-2012 11:34 AM

Because MJ making rookies cry during practice, or punching teammates, or having an enormous gambling addiction make him the classiest dude around. Kobe is a deuche, yes. MJ is at the same level of deuchery as kobe though.

mjfan23 10-15-2012 7:42 PM

Its not a gambling problem if you can pay for it......

mjfan23 10-15-2012 8:10 PM

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Originally Posted by stephan (Post 1789637)
Edit: Cue mjfan's rant about how terrible Kobe is, both personally and as a player. All his faults are __________ and Michael Jordan and Lebron are 8x the player.

Half correct... Kobe is awful. LBJ is a tad better, but he remains gutless and non impressive.

95sn 10-16-2012 10:16 AM

Its not a gambling problem if you can pay for it......

unless they ask you to retire. probably coulda PeteRose'ed him.

calexan 10-16-2012 11:00 AM

I met Pete Rose when I was a kid at a baseball card show, that he was signing autographs at. My dad gave me a Racing Form to have him sign and I had no idea what I was doing. Mr. Rose said this was the first time anyone had asked him to sign something gambling related but for a kid hed do it. It took a few years for me to realize how funny that was. It is still hanging in my game room. hahaha

As for Kobe, he always runs his mouth, whats new. Still a great ball player and Smush really was terrible. Did anybody see Jalen Rose's story about the night Kobe scored 81. Jalen's stories are already hilarious.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7VlyeWgL8E

wake77 10-16-2012 1:09 PM

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Originally Posted by stephan (Post 1789637)
I think you meant to say "downside" not "downfall". A talent like Kobe doesn't have a basketball downfall. Personally, clearly he is not everyone's favorite.

On paper the Lakers have the best team in the league, hopefully they can put it to good use. The passing of the torch to Dwight will be fun.

Edit: Cue mjfan's rant about how terrible Kobe is, both personally and as a player. All his faults are __________ and Michael Jordan and Lebron are 8x the player.

Before long, we will hear mjfan's Uncle Rico-like rants about he is better than so and so and how big a star he could be if only coach had put him in for the big game. He can throw a basketball over a mountain.

mjfan23 10-17-2012 9:47 AM

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Originally Posted by wake77 (Post 1789851)
Before long, we will hear mjfan's Uncle Rico-like rants about he is better than so and so and how big a star he could be if only coach had put him in for the big game. He can throw a basketball over a mountain.

This makes no sense... I was a big star. I was always in the game. And throwing a basketball over a mountain would be a waste of a basketball. Get it together.


This years NBA rankings.

1. LBJ
2. Durant
3. Melo
4. Cp3
5. Dwight

95sn 10-17-2012 9:55 AM

How does Melo rate in top 3? only if scoring is all that counts.

mjfan23 10-17-2012 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 95sn (Post 1789989)
How does Melo rate in top 3? only if scoring is all that counts.

Being the best offensive player in the game gets you there.... Dude has the most offensive ability in the league.

95sn 10-18-2012 10:17 AM

He is offensive.
#'s 1 and 2 both have more offensive ability.
Cant be in the top 3 if you have no game other than scoring. He is just not a winner, Ask Denver and NY. KLove, DWilliams. DRose all have more well rounded games...more valuable.

mjfan23 10-18-2012 4:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 95sn (Post 1790127)
He is offensive.
#'s 1 and 2 both have more offensive ability.
Cant be in the top 3 if you have no game other than scoring. He is just not a winner, Ask Denver and NY. KLove, DWilliams. DRose all have more well rounded games...more valuable.

People said for YEARS Dirk wasnt a winner...

LBJ - cant shoot... Melo can shoot anywhere.

Durant - cant play in the post... Melo has the body to bang and post up.

Melo is a phenom, easily the 3rd most feared player in the league.

wake77 10-18-2012 5:35 PM

I'd take DRose over Melo any day.

mjfan23 10-18-2012 6:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wake77 (Post 1790213)
I'd take DRose over Melo any day.

DRose is awesome.... but his shooting is very inconsistent and hes coming off a serious knee injury... who knows if that will alter his career.

95sn 10-19-2012 10:29 AM

Dirk is in the "downfall" of his career now, leave him alone.
Just cant get on your Melo bandwagon. His reputation as a scorer is surpassed only by his stellar rep of not playing any D. I think he is a little fat too.

10-19-2012 11:15 AM

Carmelo Anthony = OVERRATED.

His team was better last year without him than they were with him. I liked the guy coming out of Syracuse and he has the potential, but he just hasn't put it together. Not even close to being a top 3 player in the league. If he stopped shooting so many jumpers and played some, any, kind of defense he has the potential to be a top 3 player in the league. Right now you have a problem convincing me he's even in the top 10.

22.6 ppg on 43% shooting and 33% from 3 is far from top 3 in the NBA.

And nothing personal, I hate Kobe as much as the next guy. But you commonly refer to him as garbage because he's a volume shooter and that's it. If that's the case, how in the hell can you support Carmelo as the third best player in the league? They've both averaged about 19 shots a game in their careers, about 45% from the field and 25 ppg. Their career scoring numbers are eerily similar. If Kobe is a trash volume shooter by your account then isn't Carmelo the same?

mjfan23 10-19-2012 3:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 95sn (Post 1790356)
Dirk is in the "downfall" of his career now, leave him alone.
Just cant get on your Melo bandwagon. His reputation as a scorer is surpassed only by his stellar rep of not playing any D. I think he is a little fat too.

Dirk is awesome.... Yes his career is winding down, but hes one of the best. But alot of people blasted him for years for not winning one. Same with Melo


Melo always has been "fat"... but hes down like 20 lbs to start the season.

mjfan23 10-19-2012 3:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbet (Post 1790370)
Carmelo Anthony = OVERRATED.

His team was better last year without him than they were with him. I liked the guy coming out of Syracuse and he has the potential, but he just hasn't put it together. Not even close to being a top 3 player in the league. If he stopped shooting so many jumpers and played some, any, kind of defense he has the potential to be a top 3 player in the league. Right now you have a problem convincing me he's even in the top 10.

22.6 ppg on 43% shooting and 33% from 3 is far from top 3 in the NBA.

And nothing personal, I hate Kobe as much as the next guy. But you commonly refer to him as garbage because he's a volume shooter and that's it. If that's the case, how in the hell can you support Carmelo as the third best player in the league? They've both averaged about 19 shots a game in their careers, about 45% from the field and 25 ppg. Their career scoring numbers are eerily similar. If Kobe is a trash volume shooter by your account then isn't Carmelo the same?

Melo has had several years shooting 48, 49 percent.

As for Melo and Kobe... Cmon now. Kobe had everything handed to him via the Diesel. People game plan around Melo, they game planed around Shaq.

And to use your very own point.. Alot of people thought Kobe was the best player in the league for several years ( he wasnt, top 5 tho). You said it yourself there numbers are VERY similiar, so is Carmelo the best player in the league!??

ttrigo 10-19-2012 4:16 PM

And to get back to your original comments, what about MJ's comments at his HOF introduction. Those comments had to make him the biggest ahole of all time. If you think kobe is being a deusch, you would have to be a hypocrite to think MJ isnt.

10-19-2012 4:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mjfan23 (Post 1790416)
Melo has had several years shooting 48, 49 percent.

2 years out of 9 and the last one was 5 years ago. He's a volume shooter too and basically contributes nothing else to his team.

wake77 10-19-2012 7:08 PM

^the truest thing spoken in this thread.

mjfan23 10-20-2012 1:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ttrigo (Post 1790426)
And to get back to your original comments, what about MJ's comments at his HOF introduction. Those comments had to make him the biggest ahole of all time. If you think kobe is being a deusch, you would have to be a hypocrite to think MJ isnt.

Jordans speech was the classic story of how he became the greatest player to ever play the game. It was the story of how he became who he was...

Smush Parker had nothing to do with who Kobe is.

mjfan23 10-20-2012 1:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbet (Post 1790436)
2 years out of 9 and the last one was 5 years ago. He's a volume shooter too and basically contributes nothing else to his team.

so is Melo the best player in the league??? Avoiding the question I see.

95sn 10-22-2012 12:09 PM

No Melo is not the best player in any league. An argument can be made he makes his teams worse. Ie Denver, and in NY while he was out.
Excellent points Scott.
Classic story of how..... to be an assclown.
http://www.aolnews.com/2009/09/12/jo...assy-to-clown/

mjfan23 10-23-2012 6:28 PM

People who didnt like Jordans speech, didnt understand what Jordan was.

His speech epitomizes exactly what he is... The greatest player ever, a champion, the most competitive athlete in the world.

What he said was not mean, it was competitive, it was a story of how he became the best, the hurdles he overcame.

Lets not forget what Jordan was, ruthless... Frankly the era of LBJ and Durant being buddy buddy is pathetic.

mjfan23 10-29-2012 11:06 AM

Kobe hurt already??? 0 games into the season and Kobe already hampered with a foot injury.

Yikes. his old decrepit body is breaking down at a rapid pace. Hang em up volume shooter.

95sn 10-29-2012 12:20 PM

No need to worry mjfan, just giving Jodie Meeks a chance to get some minutes.

georgebarber 07-29-2013 8:49 PM

I agree to what Brett said !!!

deuce 07-30-2013 8:08 AM

Holy thread dredge!

mjfan23 07-30-2013 4:03 PM

what is volume shooter going to do this season? Could be rouugggghhhh.

sidekicknicholas 07-30-2013 5:03 PM

Hey MJ, care to explain... I'm confused.

Quote:

LBJ - cant shoot... Melo can shoot anywhere.
2013 Shooting percentages -
Lebron - FG = .491 3PT = .375
Melo - FG = .406 3PT = .298

.... how can that be?!

95sn 07-30-2013 5:07 PM

What is Kobe doing?

A lot of Rehab.

deuce 07-30-2013 5:19 PM

Just turning this to the NBA..... Jazz dump all the vets.....going young guns!

Our veteran leadership is coming from a guy going into his 4th year. Projected starting line-up.....bunch of lottery.

1 - Trey Burke
2 - Alec Burkes (there is a possibility that Brandon Rush slots here)
3 - Gordon Hayward
4 - Derrick Favors
5 - Enes Kanter

That's a starting line-up with 10 years experience in the NBA, nobody with more than 3(Favors and Hayward).

It's going to be fun!

jason_ssr 07-31-2013 5:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidekicknicholas (Post 1836415)
Hey MJ, care to explain... I'm confused.


2013 Shooting percentages -
Lebron - FG = .491 3PT = .375
Melo - FG = .406 3PT = .298

.... how can that be?!

By that logic, DeAndre Jordan is the best pure shooter in the league at .643.

sidekicknicholas 07-31-2013 6:20 AM

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By that logic, DeAndre Jordan is the best pure shooter in the league at .643.
Shhhhh, centers don't count.

07-31-2013 9:23 AM

What's he doing?

Sucking up over half of LAs cap space this season, that's what he's doing.

deuce 07-31-2013 3:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jason_ssr (Post 1836477)
By that logic, DeAndre Jordan is the best pure shooter in the league at .643.

Well, you could just take their 3 point shooting percentage, .406-LBJ vs .379-CA?

deuce 07-31-2013 3:48 PM

How are my 3pt numbers so far off yours(now I see you said 3pt)?

For regular fg%...I'm getting .565-LBJ vs .449-CA

Stats from ESPN's NBA stats....

jason_ssr 08-01-2013 7:39 AM

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Originally Posted by deuce (Post 1836650)
Well, you could just take their 3 point shooting percentage, .406-LBJ vs .379-CA?

you could, but thats wouldnt help the argument as these arent top 10 numbers, or even top 20 numbers. Barely top 30 numbers!

I think LJ is a tremendous player, but you cant use shooting stats as an indicator of superior shooting ability. Not all shots are equal, but all shots affect the percentage.

deuce 08-01-2013 9:44 AM

Out of 134 players that met qualifications to be considered (a player must be on pace to make 55 three-point field goals), LBJ ranked in the top 20%.... CA was in the top 40%(37%). LBJ ranked 27th, CA 50th.... You are talking about guys putting up some 3's....and making them. You're also talking about NBA players, guys that are not only on the teams, but on the court and allowed to be jacking 3's like that. So I think the numbers mean something.

Are the numbers all telling, no. But, I think you can take those numbers and make a case.

Do you think their offensive games are that dissimilar? They primarily score in vastly different ways?


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