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grant_west 09-18-2012 9:49 AM

Where to put president # 44
 
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Where to put president # 44

Where, oh where -- to put Obama's picture?
George Washington, our nation's first president and leader of the American Revolution!

grant_west 09-18-2012 9:50 AM

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Abe Lincoln, honorable leader who pulled our nation through its darkest time!

grant_west 09-18-2012 9:51 AM

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Alexander Hamilton, founding father, first Secretary of the Treasury and
leader of the constitutional convention!

markj 09-18-2012 9:51 AM

Oh that's easy. On food stamps of course.

grant_west 09-18-2012 9:51 AM

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Andrew Jackson, "Old Hickory " fought the British in New Orleans !

grant_west 09-18-2012 9:52 AM

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Ulysses S. Grant, Union army general, led the North through the Civil War!

grant_west 09-18-2012 9:55 AM

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Ben Franklin, genius inventor, political theorist and leading author of the Constitution.

grant_west 09-18-2012 9:56 AM

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Finally, we have someone to put on the food stamp!!!

Obama's policies have put more people on welfare than any president before him,
so this placement is most appropriate. Unlike the Nobel Peace Prize, for which he
did nothing, this is an "honor" he richly deserves.

pesos 09-18-2012 10:06 AM

"Obama's policies have put more people on welfare than any president before him,
so this placement is most appropriate."


Huh? Care to provide any actual facts? Didn't think so...

deltahoosier 09-18-2012 11:18 AM

You mean actual facts like Bush hates black people, caused Katrina, destroyed the economy? You have any of those? Didn't think so...

digg311 09-18-2012 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by deltahoosier (Post 1783851)
You mean actual facts like Bush hates black people, caused Katrina, destroyed the economy? You have any of those? Didn't think so...

Objection: Argumentative.

ord27 09-18-2012 11:31 AM

http://www.trivisonno.com/food-stamps-charts

theloungelife 09-18-2012 11:39 AM

Hmm
 
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Originally Posted by grant_west (Post 1783821)
Alexander Hamilton, founding father, first Secretary of the Treasury and
leader of the constitutional convention!


Hamilton pushed for the current viewpoint of the General Welfare Clause, in Article I, Section 8, which has become the basis on which programs like food stamps are constitutional.I'm not saying that I am 100% against food stamps, but wanted to point that out. My personal favorite bill would probably be Jackson or Franklin. Jackson worked hard to rid the nation of debt, while Franklin was a genius.

shawndoggy 09-18-2012 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by theloungelife (Post 1783862)
... while Franklin was a genius.

And a horndog, back when you could be a horndog.

grant_west 09-18-2012 11:49 AM

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Huh? Care to provide any actual facts? Didn't think so...
Wes, I guess that didn't turn out Quite the way you hoped! LOL LOL LOL

wake77 09-18-2012 3:14 PM

"Obama's policies have put more people on welfare than any president before him,
so this placement is most appropriate. Unlike the Nobel Peace Prize, for which he
did nothing, this is an "honor" he richly deserves."

Name one policy that did that. I guess the crappy economy he inherited had nothing to do with the rise in welfare recipients. And you can see that in G's graph as you look at the yearly increase during the Bush years 2001-2008, in September 2008 the banks collapsed. Oh, to be feeble-minded.

Let me know when you find one of those "policies" G.

grant_west 09-18-2012 4:21 PM

Hey Wake: Yea Ill get right on that for you! LOL They say mustard helps with the taste of crow in your mouth you should try some.

skippabcool 09-18-2012 4:45 PM

Interesting video

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/nWVL7TptQ24" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

wakeboardingdad 09-18-2012 5:24 PM

Name one policy that did that.

Healthcare.

magicr 09-18-2012 5:33 PM

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Name one policy that did that.

Healthcare.

Huh? :confused:

wake77 09-18-2012 6:28 PM

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Originally Posted by grant_west (Post 1783955)
Hey Wake: Yea Ill get right on that for you! LOL They say mustard helps with the taste of crow in your mouth you should try some.

Again, no policies, no facts, just more douchery from G. It really shows your intelligence, bravo.

wake77 09-18-2012 6:29 PM

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Originally Posted by wakeboardingdad (Post 1783970)
Name one policy that did that.

Healthcare.

Please explain how so.

poser007 09-18-2012 6:44 PM

Great video. It pretty much speaks for itself. Grant love the picture on the stamp it's right on. Get enough people to lean on the Government and the dems will be in power for a long long time. In another thread someone posted pics of criminals wearing Obama T-shirts. Hilarious because those are the types of people the dems go after. If you polled all the people in prison you would probably have 80% voting democrat and that's probably no exaggeration. When you have a party who wants to make sure that people don't have to show their ID to vote, you have to ask yourself why would that be? Well now we know.

grant_west 09-18-2012 7:37 PM

Wake77, you have been the one to show your true colors in a few threads’ Just because my views don’t align with yours you don't have to go there with the name calling. I forgot that you were a person I should ignore for that very reason. Thanks for reminding me.

pesos 09-18-2012 10:04 PM

Grant - seriously. I know math is tough for you, but I see a 100% increase under Bush (if you look at the charts) and a 39% increase under Obama. Also check the trend under Clinton and what got handed to Bush, vs. what got handed to your buddy O. You're smarter than that (at least I have faith that you are).

wake77 09-19-2012 3:10 AM

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Originally Posted by grant_west (Post 1784021)
Wake77, you have been the one to show your true colors in a few threadsí Just because my views donít align with yours you don't have to go there with the name calling. I forgot that you were a person I should ignore for that very reason. Thanks for reminding me.

Okay, no names, just give me a policy. Be a die hard conservative, anti-Obama, whatever, just give me a policy.

wakeboardingdad 09-19-2012 6:34 AM

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Please explain how so.

Many businesses are simply not hiring people due to the looming government healthcare concerns and the costs associated with it.

I thought that was pretty easy or are you saying that healthcare was not a "policy"?

psudy 09-19-2012 10:37 AM

Maybe its the anti private sector, anti rich people, government is going to save us, overtone that has people not hiring. Just maybe.

deltahoosier 09-19-2012 10:39 AM

Oh no. If you are going to claim Clinton then you have to take Obama. Clinton was handed a economy from Bush 1. He just rode it out.

On your policies, I have been giving you plenty but obviously you can not get it. It is never going to be one policy. It is a work in progress, a little at a time. If you can not see the wealth of the country leaving then I can not help you. On one side, they don't care where they get the money from as long as they get it. On the other, they are committed to spreading the wealth. Spreading the wealth does not work. Spreading opportunity does, taking the spoils of opportunity does not.

grant_west 09-19-2012 10:45 AM

Obama Got's a Stash!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOZ-Etb0k0Q

psudy 09-19-2012 10:47 AM

Is that the 1998 video were he says he supports redistribution(can't open at work)?

wake77 09-19-2012 1:27 PM

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Originally Posted by psudy (Post 1784194)
Maybe its the anti private sector, anti rich people, government is going to save us, overtone that has people not hiring. Just maybe.

Again, more rhetoric, no facts. The wealthy have gotten wealthier during Obama's presidency so how is that "anti rich people"? There continues to be an increase in private sector jobs so how is that "anti private sector"? Government jobs have decreased under Obama. So please explain.

wake77 09-19-2012 1:29 PM

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Originally Posted by wakeboardingdad (Post 1784094)
Many businesses are simply not hiring people due to the looming government healthcare concerns and the costs associated with it.

I thought that was pretty easy or are you saying that healthcare was not a "policy"?

That is speculation on your part. Companies that are doing well and need more employees are hiring. The healthcare aspects have nothing to do with it (they don't fully take effect until 2014).

wakedaveup 09-19-2012 1:33 PM

Willie nelson for pres!

psudy 09-19-2012 1:41 PM

An increase in private sector jobs? 5.3MM people have left the labor force(IE not in unemployment figures). So while your graphs may show a drop in unemployment #s, it is really smoke and mirrors. Nonfarm payroll growth has slowed as well.

wake77 09-19-2012 1:43 PM

^There are private sector jobs added each month, but there is a decrease in government jobs. And I agree payroll growth may have slowed, but that certainly didn't apply to executive positions.

psudy 09-19-2012 1:50 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_943111.html

Not to mention we have to be over 200K to even start making a dent in unemployment.

joeshmoe 09-19-2012 2:20 PM

" If you can not see the wealth of the country leaving then I can not help you."
Yah, I get it, we got a big trade deficit, yet, we are the Richest Country in the World! We have had a trade deficit probably since we stopped being a world supplier oil, yet, we are the Strongest country in the World! We have a lot of people on welfare(do you think that money is going into their saving account?)all of that money goes back into the economy, again making US the Richest country in the world! Our government has been redistributing wealth for decades, yet we have the most Billionaires in the world! We have had a minimum wage forever(this surely has to be bad for the economic system??right?) yet, We have the strongest economy in the World! Our country has been in debt since the First World War, yet, we are Richest Country in the Nation------> We must be doing something right!
The biggest problem today is jobs, the jobs are out there, but they require technical skills and education and that's what we lack, so we will Hire foreigners to fill these vacancies, Welcome to America, the greatest country in the World! come help us grow!

grant_west 09-19-2012 3:34 PM

ooo all the Jobs the Goverment is "Creating", LOL LOL What a joke you mean like the 737 Million Obama gave to Solyndra so they could go bankrupt months later.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011...ws-solar-firm/


Make sure you all keep your "O" bumper stickers

wake77 09-19-2012 4:37 PM

^I'll stick them all over your forehead when he wins the election in November.

wake77 09-19-2012 4:38 PM

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Originally Posted by psudy (Post 1784251)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_943111.html

Not to mention we have to be over 200K to even start making a dent in unemployment.

Paul, thanks for making my point for me. Your link says 91,000 jobs were added that month. Exactly what I said in my last two posts.

psudy 09-20-2012 6:57 AM

Those number suck. It shows people are not hiring at a rate anywhere close to where they should be. You're not taking into account the attrition rate.

wakeboardern1 09-20-2012 5:49 PM

American Airlines is laying off 11,000...

Plus the unemployment numbers do not show the number of out of work sales people who are not receiving unemployment benefits. Realtors and other commission based sales persons who did great when the economy was booming are the ones who are really struggling to make ends meet. And they don't generally receive unemployment when they are "let go."


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