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smitty1258 08-11-2012 1:24 PM

2012 EPIC Boat Bun 23v Thread
Alright now that I have your attention, there is actually no "boat buns" in this post, but if you respond to my email with your paypal address, and SSN you will receive millions from my uncle twice removed on my sisters side in Russia who may or may not be out to sea working as an oceanographer, its all legit just trust me, oh and dont forget to FWD to the email to anyone else who wants to share in the unclaimed fortunes... With the money will come boat bun photos after you email it to 10 people, but act fast!

So since most of you have never seen or been in an Epic boat I decided to go the extra mile and make a large contribution. Feel free to rate this thread with 5 stars so Dave can send me some free WW swag from all the WW points!

I wanted to wait until my second oil change in my boat to really give an in depth review of my boat, not just the "look at my new shiny toy its the best" review. This boat is great, it does have its quirks but I overcame most of them pretty quickly. The boat itself is built like a tank, resin infusion is freaking SOLID! Double ups and massive rollers from my buddys G23 have not even phased the boat or the people inside of it, I love how smooth this boat rides through the water, coming from an 09 Centurion Falcon to this was like going from a Kia to a Lexus the ride quality is just NIGHT and DAY difference. I have the 5.7 330HP Merc in mine and so far it has dished everything we have thrown at it, I was really worried about planing out with the smaller motor and having so much ballast available to me so fast, but we dont ever ride with all of the stock 4,000lbs full and even if we did it gets on plane so much faster than my buddys Axis loaded down.
Having 4000lbs of ballast at your fingertips and the ability to fill it all in under 2 minutes is so sick and having the front tank (MB doesnt have) is really a great selling point for this type of ballast system. However 4000lbs is to much for wakeboarding, you need to ride above 25mph to get a clean wake, at least in my boat. My favorite wakeboard setting so far has been 65ft 20.4MPH with Zero ballast, the wake is PERFECT! A lot of my buddies have really been shocked by the wake with no weight in the boat, Ill just tell them Im filling the tanks and wont tell them line length until they fall, and usually they can tell they are riding shorter but never guess there is no ballast in the tanks. I can also get the same results from 1/4 to 1/2 in the nose and 70ft 21.6MPH just super clean and super poppy. Another really solid setting is half in the nose, both side tanks at 1/4 full, 70 or 75ft @ 22+mph.When I start to add weight in my boat is when things start to get touchy, the more weight I add the more the boat becomes weight/speed sensitive. When you start getting over 2000lbs the boat becomes more weight sensitive which is ok most of the time because most of the guys I ride with understand where to move, when to move etc.. but some of them dont like to ride 23+ and some dont get how even out the weight. Like I said usually its not a problem, but when its just family and extended family and Im trying to ride, Im also trying to point to people and have them move while I ride, lol. The wake itself is very versatile, at slower speeds and less ballast it is much more rampy with the solid lip and solid pop at the top, with more weight and more speed its turns into a freaking brick wall which takes some getting used to, but also launches you straight up.
*DISCLAIMER* All ballast scenarios posted above are with some water in the left tank, I usually hold that side open for 5-10 seconds when I first put in, the left side needs more weight in the boat for whatever reason.
Surf wave with stock ballast is good, but with just 400lbs extra in the rear corner turns into a monster, Im still trying to really dial it in still and photos will come sometime soon. I think we have only surfed it 3 times.
Fit n Finish
Fit and finish on the boat is great, I havnt had any issues with anything and when comparing it to my old boat the layout and design is so much better. There is NO carpet in my boat at all,I love it. All storage areas are lines with some sort of material that isnt carpet, not sure what it is but it doesnt hold water, and I love it. No stinky moldy carpet to try and clean! The floor is foam flooring and all I do is hose it out once a month and its clean again! The tower is a Samson tower and it is rock soild, and it folds down very easy with one person. No fancy dancy screens just solid analog gauges and rocker switches. Wetsounds audio is freaking amazing, WS420 is great to have from the factory, transom audio is great! People in the boat dont have to go deaf and the riders gets there music nice and clear.

Im sure there is a ton im forgetting, so if you have any questions about the boat let me know. The next couple posts will be all the photos of the boat, empty and with gear stored. Enjoy

I also created a new Epic forum which is still a work in the progress but the forums are up. I tried contacting the old site many times epicboatowners and have never got a response... So I made epiccrew.com for us Epic owners. Im working on the main/front page now but the forums are up and working so sign up!

smitty1258 08-11-2012 1:25 PM



smitty1258 08-11-2012 1:25 PM

Inside and Empty


smitty1258 08-11-2012 1:26 PM

Inside with gear


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smitty1258 08-11-2012 1:27 PM

Shoutout to Boat bling for making my boat look so damn good. One of the hot sauce bottles is actually the quickie wax stuff, but I dropped the bottle, oops.


smitty1258 08-11-2012 1:28 PM

And now what you've been waiting for, wake pics. Heres how to understand the photos. The first pic is the settings(speed/ballast/etc..), and the second one is the wake. I think we will have to redo these so its easier to see some of them. This was just 2 ppl in the boat. Plus we need some photos with more ballast and better water conditions.




20/ Half Nose

22/ Half Nose

22/ Half Right-Half Nose-Half Left

23/ Half Right-Half Nose-Half Left

hatepain 08-11-2012 5:20 PM

Any more pics?

timmyb 08-11-2012 5:45 PM


Originally Posted by hatepain (Post 1775295)
Any more pics?

:D If only there was a pic of the...nope, it's there or maybe the...nope, he got that one too! I think he covered it! I've been in one a hundred times and I think I saw parts that I have never seen before in this thread. :eek:

MattieK27 08-11-2012 8:49 PM

I would love to look into an Epic purchase, but who sells them in the midwest? The 21v looks decent, and the Merc power appeals to me greatly. Yes, PCM, Indmar, and Illmor might have better marine engines, but being able to have almost anyone service the engine is very appealing.

The other issue that I had was a swim platform that isn't removable for storage. Your boat looks awesome by the way.

nick_in_ssp 08-12-2012 5:57 PM

Love all the pics. I have always loved the Epic's and their snub nose, and if I was buying a new boat it would be an Epic.

08-12-2012 7:30 PM

Gorgeous boat. Congrats

501s 08-12-2012 7:41 PM

Awesome pics, thanks so much for sharing. Maybe it's me but the wake looks a little steeper on the right hand side then the left in the pics, probably just the angle the pics were taken at. Very very clean color choices on thisEpic, one of the nicest I have seen.

monkey_butt 08-17-2012 9:01 AM

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what I still don't understand is why Epic isn't putting drains in behind the back seats - I drilled holes in my 2007 and have just finished the same ones in my 2011 so the water doesn't accumulate and sit there for days if I forget to properly dry behind those seat cushions/back seats ... drilled to additional holes in the center on my 2007 but first checking if it's necessary to do the same here ...

Fourspeednup 08-17-2012 3:13 PM


Originally Posted by smitty1258 (Post 1775276)
Shoutout to Boat bling for making my boat look so damn good. One of the hot sauce bottles is actually the quickie wax stuff, but I dropped the bottle, oops.


Thanks for the props Tyler! Glad to hear our products help keep your new Epic looking good on and off the water!

Zack Bale

Jmaxymek 08-17-2012 11:09 PM

Does the tower rest on the boat when folded?

olmoomba 08-20-2012 8:41 AM


Originally Posted by Jmaxymek (Post 1776736)
Does the tower rest on the boat when folded?


lionel 08-24-2012 3:34 PM

How do you like the throttle? Seems I/Oish. Dod you have GPS speed control? You like?

smitty1258 08-24-2012 6:39 PM

Throttle itself is just the same as any other boat. The trim tab being on the throttle control is nice, but to me it makes no difference if its a switch on the dash or the throttle. I do have the GPS smart tow system with launch control. The launch control is an absolute must if you have someone new driving your boat, you can just tell them to floor it and drive straight, the boat does the rest of the work.

lionel 08-24-2012 8:20 PM

If you go out soon, post pics of the surf wake please. Thx.

smitty1258 08-25-2012 7:30 PM

I will get some tomorrow, with stock and an additional 500lbs in the rear

lionel 08-26-2012 12:00 AM

Can't wait!

venom93corba 08-28-2012 1:42 PM

Great write up Smitty, you've got me reconsidering with your pics :) Looking good bro. And I can definitely vouch for the awesome wake at 21.6 mph. He wouldn't tell me how much ballast he had in it before I rode but when I got back in the boat and he said it was empty (5-6 people in boat) I didn't believe him. This wake is definitely EPIC :)

Bamabonners 08-30-2012 7:53 AM

The styling of the boats what keeps me from liking epic. IMO, the square nose is weird, the speakers on the back are weird, I don't like cup holders in the floor, the throttle is like a I/o, the interior looks plain, and the tower looks too old school.

The wake does look great.

Perhaps I am just grumpy because I clicked this thread to see bun and got tricked. LOL

olmoomba 08-31-2012 7:42 AM


Originally Posted by Bamabonners (Post 1779523)
The styling of the boats what keeps me from liking epic. IMO, the square nose is weird, the speakers on the back are weird, I don't like cup holders in the floor, the throttle is like a I/o, the interior looks plain, and the tower looks too old school.

The wake does look great.

Perhaps I am just grumpy because I clicked this thread to see bun and got tricked. LOL

Hoodwinked! :D

smitty1258 09-01-2012 8:20 PM

Long awaited surf pics and some some Boat Buns:D

The goofy side is even bigger. This was with only the left side filled 100%, 11mph and ~13ft deep. I will get some photos of that this weekend if the rain ever lets up...




venom93corba 09-01-2012 9:19 PM

That looks like an awesome surf wake. I want a chance to surf it before the end of the season. Make it happen homie :)

gatorboy112 09-03-2012 8:47 PM

why can't I see the pics?

smitty1258 09-04-2012 6:27 PM

you most likely need to let the page load because there are a "couple" of images in this thread :)

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